Talk:Seventh Heaven
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Seventh Heaven: Judaism section, does not cite sources. It is written "Jewish mysticism", which exactly, Ari kabbalah, cristian kabbalah, western kabbalah? It seems to me that to name Judaism may be in accurate.
Different beings are Samuel are Chamuel. Almost in every sources archangel Chamuel(Kamael)is the ruler of the fith heaven. Please describe how do you find, that Samuel is the ruler.
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[edit] "Outside time"
Saturn was called Chronos by the Greeks, and was considered to be the Father of Time, and above it, time wasn't supposed to exist. This led to the idea that God exists "outside of time."
While Christianty did blend with 'pagan' Roman beliefs (especially among commoners), I don't think this statement can go unqualified. What serious Christian (or Jewish or Muslim) sage/philosopher would use the powers of a pagan Greek/Roman god in order to explain the Judeo-Christian's God's temporal status? --Lode Runner 01:14, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Saturn is KRONOS (CRONUS) not CHRONOS
therefore the outside of time thing makes no sense.