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[edit] Authority to issue degrees?

I would like to see the text for the 1918 Act, i, 1918 Act, ii, 1918 Act, iii, 1918 Act, iv mention. The text and any other information about this would be helpful. As of know naming 4 acts without any context isn't helpful nor convincing. Is the school mentioned in the act? PatriotBible 23:09, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

The Act is there just to authorise degrees from this College Brookie :) - a will o' the wisp ! ^(Whisper...) 08:03, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

There is one more important question. They claim that it is a University (the so-called Serampore University). Has University Grants Commission of Indian given this institution such an authority, I mean to function as a University and to claim that it is a University The Hermes 17:34, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

I think that the name University is only an informal one - and not one officially promoted or used by the College itself. Brookie :) - a will o' the wisp ! ^(Whisper...) 05:57, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

The name Serampore University is actively used by almost all theological institutions in India, Nepal, and Sri Lanka that claim to offer degrees from "Serampore University". It is not informal at all. Please remember that once India instituted its own constitution and once UGC came up, any charter given by a foreign government needs to be ratified by UGC. Serampre area is no longer under the control of the Danish Government. The Hermes 11:39, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Examples of Serampore University used in a formal sense

Very Rev Dr. Yoohanon Remban Bachelor of Divinity (B.D) from Senate of University of Serampore. [1]

Candidates who do not have a B.D. degree from Serampore University or an equivalent degree from any seminary, college or university may also apply for the Post-Graduate Diploma if they possess a Bachelor's degree in any discipline. [2]

In April 2005, the Serampore University recognized ATEN's central library in Kathmandu as adequate for Bachelor of Divinity (BD) studies. This means member Bible schools and colleges in Kathmandu can award at least a recognized Bachelor of Theology degree [3]

Rev. Dr. Premanand Bagh BD ( UBS / Serampore University) Mth ( UTC / Serampore University) [4]

Rev. Mrs. Rachel Bagh BSC ( Ravishankar University, MP) BD ( UBS / Serampore University) MTh ( UTC / Serampore University) [5]

Rev. Dr. Premanand Bagh BD ( UBS / Serampore University) Mth ( UTC / Serampore University) [6]

I can cite hundreds of examples that the name Serampore University is used in an official sense in the catalogs of Bible seminaries. This is fraud because no such university exists in India. The Hermes 11:55, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

• Isn't the point that the College can issue its own degrees - we are not calling it a University in the article! It is not the College calling itself a University. We are generating a lot of heat over a non-point in my view. Brookie :) - a will o' the wisp ! ^(Whisper...) 13:52, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

• In India no college can issue its own degree without UGC approval. If you feel you can justify one college issuing its own degree, then why fight against Diploma Mills. Also, they clearly say they "affiliate" other colleges to issue degree.

It is obvious that in me spite of citing examples you are trying to defend this bogus University. The Hermes 15:26, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

I have no axe to grind - I'm just rather worried that you do and I am not really sold on the language you use to refer to a perfectly respectable institution - it is not a bogus university! Brookie :) - a will o' the wisp ! ^(Whisper...) 15:57, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The definitive position

King Frederick VI of Denmark originally granted a Royal Charter giving Serampore College the status of a University to confer degrees. With the later establishment of Calcutta University in 1857 the Arts, Science and Commerce parts of Serampore College were affiliated to the Calcutta University. However Serampore College continues to enjoy the privilege of conferring degrees in Theology under the power vested by the Charter and Act of Serampore College. It is a private Grant-in-aid Minority College. The College is recognized by the University Grants Commission under Section 2(f) and 12(b) of the UGC Act, 1956. Brookie :) - a will o' the wisp ! ^(Whisper...) 16:14, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

What you say applies only to the non-theology departments. The Theology department which projects itself as Serampore University, and which is repeatedly addressed by people as Serampore University, has NOT been accredited by UGC or any other agency in India. The charter from Denmark no longer applies in India. The Hermes 07:12, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Your edits are now becoming disruptive - please see the links I added at the end of the Serampore article - which is where the quote about the ability to issue degrees comes from - this is in the pre-amble to the College's offial grading report (which was A) - I presume that they know what they are talking about - even if you don't. Brookie :) - a will o' the wisp ! ^(Whisper...) 07:32, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Do you mean that stating FACTS is disruptive in wikipedia known for open and honest discussion of facts?? Or is it some kind of a veiled threat that you are issuing?? The Hermes 07:48, 18 January 2007 (UTC)