Talk:Sephardic Pizmonim Project
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This article was nominated for deletion on January 27, 2007. The result of the discussion was no consensus. |
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This article was nominated for deletion on February 16, 2007. The result of the discussion was no consensus. |
[edit] Notability
- This is getting a wee bit annoying. I'm being kind by simply tagging it for notability and asking for some cites and then the web site owner/manager who shares the same name as the Wikipedia editor David Betesh is removing the notability tags without any talk. Not enough time by them is a lame excuse. The web site owner/Wikipedia editor does have time to clean up their talk pages removing warnings plus adding what is deemed vandalism to certain "pet" pages and yet cannot find a single external press/TV/radio/ or other news reference of any kind that refers to their own web site ?. Truthfully the site looks like it does provide valid cultural artefacts but it is not for me judge this as I can't judge the specific merits of the web site content with respect to the community it serves and neither should I - the "references" will help me do that !. Ttiotsw 19:52, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
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- The original speedy designation was unwarranted, as it would appear on the face & from the link to pizmonim. Not being the author, I have therefore removed the tag.
[edit] Notability II
I intend to go through the deletion process again, after a little bit of breathing time. The organization is not notable, period. With all due respect to the wonderful cause that it represents, it is entirely unheard of outside of the Syrian community, and even inside the community its mention would barely raise an eyebrow. The two sources consist of:
- A paragraph from Aleppo - City of Scholars that reads (in its entirety):
- "Mr. David Betesh, a great-grandson of Gabriel Shrem, received these tapes [of pizmonim] as a Bar Mitzvah gift from his grandmother, Florence Zeitouni, the daughter of Gabriel Shrem, and resolved to pass on this treasured gift to the entire community. He re-released and upgraded both the published and the unpublished works of his great-grandfather to create an inclusive and wide-ranging recording of pizmonim. The CD set, which is distributed by the Bnai Yosef Synagogue, also includes an explanation of the origin of each maqam, as well as the perashah or occasion during which it should be used and why."
...which is honestly very nice, but it amounts to virtually nothing within an encyclopedic work about the Syrian Jewish community.
- An article in Community Magazine. Community Magazine is a publication geared to a small subset of the Syrian community, and it will routinely report on even the most insignificant happenings in the community.
The paucity of substance in the nature of each of these sources is reason enough to discount the notability of the SPP. Hopefully the next AfD will end more conclusively. --DLandTALK 14:47, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
