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[edit] First World

Hi, I think the solution here is for you to cite reliable sources. According to WP:V, "The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth." Therefore, if you can provide sources that show that South Korea, Taiwan, Hong Kong and New Zealand are First World countries, then you will be at an advantage, and the other users who delete them will have to find opposing sources. Regards, Khoikhoi 22:19, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Hey. Unfortunately, I don't really have the time right now to get involved in another dispute. However, I hope that the both of you can come to a compromise. Regards, Khoikhoi 05:01, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
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Please refrain from undoing other people's edits repeatedly, as you are doing in First World. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. Rather than reverting, discuss disputed changes on the talk page. The revision you want is not going to be implemented by edit warring. Thank you. — coelacan talk — 03:27, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

I am attempting to bring this dispute away from the article page and onto the talk page. Please bring your proposals over to Talk:First World. Thank you, — coelacan talk — 03:37, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Hey there, thank you for giving me the heads up, and for trying to sort out the arguements and intimitading stances by Cali567. - Seong0980

To be clear, I am not defending any particular version of the article. I want the thing discussed and handled by WP:DR processes. You are either going to have to come up with WP:Reliable sources that define "first world" in a particular way, or cite sources that list certain countries as "first world" (second option is probably easier). You have plenty of time to do this, remember, Wikipedia:There is no deadline, so since the other party in this discussion is on edge right now, I suggest you head out looking for sources. Read WP:RS first to get an idea of what you need. Thanks, — coelacan talk — 04:20, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
I'm not an admin. I'm just trying to give everybody a fair shake. Seong, please see the very useful recommendsation at Wikipedia:Resolving disputes#Second step: Disengage for a while. Keep in mind that the other user has now been given a final warning for personal attacks against you, any more will result in a temporary block. So you can disengage for the moment. Please take this time to go find reliable sources. — coelacan talk — 04:43, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi! Sorry I thought you were an admin, due to your maturity perhaps. Yeah I will try to repel from him for now, as I have taken your second option of gathering reliable resource to prove South Korea, and other countries I have listed as 1st World. Thank you for your wise advice.

Seong - 28 January 2007

If you would please stop by Talk:First World to discuss the edit conflicts between yourself and Cali567. I am willing to act as a neutral third-party to help resolve this debate. -- Kesh 04:54, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Another thing that comes to mind is that you need to know that Wikipedia works on "verifiability", not "truth". This is outlined at Wikipedia:Verifiability. So when you get your sources, what you will be able to say is "this source says South Korea is first world." Cali may come up with other sources that allow that user to also say "this source says South Korea is not first world". If both are properly cited, then both points of view will be in the article. That is what our Wikipedia:Neutral point of view policy means. So you will get your point of view stated, and the other user will also have their point of view stated. This is just a heads-up for you to let you know what the article will eventually look like. Sound okay? — coelacan talk — 04:55, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

It sounds perfect! I am citing resources as we speak, and forming up a strong arguement to be presented. Thank you Coelacan.

To Kesh, it would be wonderful that you would help us also in resolving this debate, a neutral third-party is always welcomed! -- Seong0980 28 January 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Re:An invitation.

Sure, I'd be happy to see what I can do. This isn't a topic with which I am immensely familiar, but I'll put what insight I can come up with on the talk page.--Dycedarg ж 07:58, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Wonderful! -- Seong0980 28 January 2007 (UTC)
Done. You can look at what I came up with; he really doesn't have a lot going for his argument. Much of it seems to be rather egregiously incorrect.--Dycedarg ж 09:03, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Yeah I tend to agree, thanks a lot for giving your insight analysis on the discussion! Much appreciated! Kind Regards, Seong. -- Seong0980 28 January 2007 (UTC)

You guys are awesome ;]Cali567 06:29, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

You too are awesome for multiple accounts Cali! Seong0980 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Hahaha....your a funny guy!...me, two accounts???...please do the IP check. Will it be from the first world of Korea or U.S.?...haha Cali567 06:37, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
Why do you crack yourself up all the time? An admin could IP check it, probably from Mexico. Or a Mexicano living in USA. Now please leave my board alone. Seong0980 29 January 2007.
Be careful, those are racial slurrs as I see it....and you crack me up, I don't 'crack myself up'...Cali567 06:41, 29 January 2007 (UTC)


What racial slurs? You should be proud to be Mexican, what should I call you? By the way, whats racial was when you called me a 'tiny-tailed' and 'ASIAN' combined, now thats racial, also what are the concidents that some of the wiki members who deleted South Korea from the list lives in Mexico, as compared to your over hype and unproved statement that Mexico is a 1st world country, which oyu have not answered in the discussion board with facts and sources given. Since you have continued to cause vandalism on my board and on Wiki, I have no choice but to request a block on your account. I am sorry. -- Template:Seong0980 29 January 2007.

Me too!...you'll learn someday...Cali567 06:46, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Will you two please stop fighting and start acting civil? Cali567, stop antagonizing Seong0989. Seong0980, stop baselessly accusing Cali567 of using a sockpuppet. Hseldon10 is a far older user with far more contributions than Cali567, and could not possibly be a sockpuppet of him. He didn't remove South Korea for no reason, he listed his reason on the talk page. Please assume good faith in the future.--Dycedarg ж 06:52, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

I agree. Cali567 06:56, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Yes and now all Asian countries have been delted, Cali567 should be proud, btw did Dycedarg also stated that South Korea was not only 1st world, but beyond Mexico? And why hasn't Cali issued an arguement with cited references yet? Seong0980 29 January 2007.

Seong, Seong....(I'm not that proud)...I DID NOT say that Mexico was a first world country...I said it has a high HDI, which I know is not indicative of being 1st World. Mexico has a strong economy and if no one wants to include it as a country close to being 1st World I won't object. You seem to think I put Mexico as at the top list for First World countries, which I did not. Then there's the thing about sockpuppetry...jeez. Cali567 07:15, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Could have stated about the pride of Mexico earlier instead of "Me too!". Anyway I am sure you are a nice guy when Wiki is offbase, I'm still waiting for your personal research though.. Sorry about the sockputtery, I guess I over-reacted, and also, everyone should be proud of their own country, especially Mexico, such great heritage and tradition originated from Spain. -- Seong0980 29 January 2007.

Haha...hey you!...lol...Of course if I was Mexican I'd be proud..just like koreans should be proud.......And you do not know much about mexico....a great Amerindian civilization has very much contributed....I'm sorry the whole world isn't like Korea...never mind ; ] Cali567 07:20, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
Now that South Korea is temporary out of the question, I would just like to do others a favor by reinstating the rightful places of Hong Kong and Japan, along with Norway, and the ones you have mentioned before. But for now, we both have to put aside Mexico and South Korea, since this is damaging our Wikipedia relationship :(. Seong0980
I feel fine about it....I'm not the one writing lots'o'crap....Cali567 07:31, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

How do I write lots of crap? Oh by the way, I was the one trying to apologise even though you had made more mistakes, racial slur? Do you want me to quote some? And also, you have continued to vanadlise again. Are you seriously asking for an IP block? Seong0980

No I'm not. But if you decide to I can't stop you. Cali567 07:37, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

You called me 'tiny - talled Asian' and said you were did not regret saying that. And you still haven't provided the info of South Korea having a higher proverty line than Mexico, who is talking nonsense there? And please stop giving racial messages, I have not attacked your discussion board, but you have continued to insult me. Seong0980

I said I would not be surprised if you are of Asian descent and I called you a tattle-tail....seperately...anyone can be a tattle...you know that mr.Seong...I didn't imply that you were a tiny-tailed Asian..haha....go back and read...then after you see the truth...relax...Good Night. Cali567 07:51, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Just stop posting on my page, you do nothing but insult me: "Now a little tattle-tail is going and trying to get administrators on his side...I'm NOT SORRY FOR SAYING THAT and I'm NOT sorry for adding that he may be of Asian descent!." you said you were not sorry for saying that and not sorry for adding that I may be of Asian decent relating to the little lattle-tail comment, that is a straight WP: ATTACK. Please stop posting (because you insult, racailly attack me) on my talk page. Seong0980

Dispute had been handled, since you have apologised to me on the other discussion board. And you have been temporarly blocked due to my previous request. -- Seong0980

Again, I apologize if I came accross in way I didn't mean to. I was let out prematurely from block mode early this morning...hopefully we will have no problems in the future. Thank you, Cali567 06:23, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

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Opps lol, because I have been manually typing it myself! LOL. Lets try it! ( Seong0980 09:03, 29 January 2007 (UTC) )

[edit] Re: Star Wars Wikiproject

Thanks for the info, but I already knew that the project existed. However, since I'm largely inactive at the moment, I will not be able to contribute constructively to Star Wars related articles, so I would like to keep myself to my limits, and not go off biting more than I can chew. Cheers! --May the Force be with you! Shreshth91 12:42, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

LoL! Ok my jedi friend, May the Force be with you too, always! ( Seong0980 12:43, 29 January 2007 (UTC) )

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[edit] Photo request answered

Hi Michael, I have addressed the issue in the Bowing page and have added an old photo taken outside my home in Seoul, South Korea. Regards, ( Seong0980 03:08, 30 January 2007 (UTC) )

Thanks. I've removed the photo request tag. --MichaelMaggs 07:40, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

^^ ( Seong0980 09:32, 30 January 2007 (UTC) )

[edit] Requesting someone with experience

In this page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Son_Goku_%28Dragon_Ball%29 I saw someone labelled the name '孫悟空' as Japanese? But it is actually Chinese, the Japanese name is 'カカロット' and it is Kanji, could someone solve this problem and see if my edit is good enough? Because it is definitely Chinese as my language 'Korean' has Chinese/Korean = Hanji, so I know whats Chinese and whats Japanese aswell. ( Seong0980 03:01, 31 January 2007 (UTC) )

Similar to Korean, Japanese uses many Chinese characters in their writing system. Son (孫?), go (悟?) and kū (空?) are all perfectly acceptable Japanese kaji, so it is alright to call 孫悟空 "Japanese" in this context. That said, Son Goku's name is taken from the Monkey King Sun Wukong of Chinese fable.
Anyway, Kakarrot (カカロット Kakarotto?) is Goku's saiyan name. The katakana for his common name would be Son Gokū (ソンゴコウ?). –Gunslinger47 20:40, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Okay I get it, thanks Gunslinger47 ^_^. ( Seong0980 02:48, 1 February 2007 (UTC) )

[edit] A new Dragon Ball attack list

I should let ya know too. Whenever you can, please see Talk:List of Dragon Ball special abilities#Garlic Gun. If you see that Garlic Gun there, that is just a sample of how the techniques should be classified and titled. I am going to change all of the techniques on the list (except Kamehameha, Dodonpa, Genki Dama, Kaio Ken and any others that were used as romaji names in the English manga/anime) into their literal English translation in about five days from now. This change will be similar as to how Bardock was changed to Burdock (name pun) and Hercule to Mr. Satan (which was his original Japanese/romaji name). Please comment on anything else if you have something you may want to add on to it. Thanks! Power level (Dragon Ball) 00:07, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Dragonball Wiki

  • Hi there. I noticed you're a member of Wikiproject Dragonball, and I'm trying to recruit some people from that to contribute to the Dragon Ball Wiki. It's in terrible shape right now with pretty much no consistency or policies, and only this week have I been able to get Angela and Sannse to create some Forums for us over there. I've got a proposed Manual of Style going over there and would like some people to contribute to that to set up some policies and start making the wiki bigger, better, and more intelligible/consistent. If you're interested, please hop on over or talk to me. Thanks for the time, whether you're interested or not. Wildyoda 02:35, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
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