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Contents 1 Reminder of Responsibility Below 2 Responsibility 3 Notable Alumni 4 Blatantly False Info 5 Article Quality Rating 6 Article Rank Change

[edit] Reminder of Responsibility Below

[edit] Responsibility

It is part of the Wikipedia community's responsibility to inform potential attendees of the school of the major shortcomings and immoral activities the school has and promotes. Not doing so would be blatant laziness and may result in the early termination of students'educations. As an entertaining yet informative way of portraying such inferiority in this school, Ingwon Chae, the writer, who is actually now a member of the Phillips Exeter Academy community (and grateful of it as well), has rewritten the formerly sugar-coated, untruthful article probably written by Esther Myong (mentioned in the new article), into an artistic work of satire. I took a poll of all the former SFS students who went on to different schools and saw whether or not they liked SFS after seeing the benefits of the outside world. The results were not surprising. 30 out of 31 students much preferred their new schools over SFS, with the one outlier actually being a close relative of Shirley Droese.

Thank you for your service. Many hundreds of people now have a chance at having a good high school career thanks to all of you benevolent souls.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 219.253.92.120 (talk)

This information is welcome, but only if it has previously been published in a reliable source. Please see Wikipedia's core policies on verifiability and original research. -- Visviva 08:58, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Notable Alumni

This article needs to be regularly reverted because apparently non-notable names are added to the list of notable alumni. If you are going to add a name to the list, please could you ensure that information is provided that shows that the alumnus is indeed notable. Thanks Twigletmac 15:42, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

well i have finally found references for Ien Chi. Michael Forrester's, Psychology of the Image and Jean Mitry's, The Aesthetics and Psychology of the Cinema both of which refer to Ien Chi at points in the book. The first book refers to him in page 47, "Short film director Ien Chi applied the usage of social psychology in his 2nd short film, 'Stonewall' which introduced another way of communicating cognitively with the audience as well as interactively." The Aesthetics and Psychology of the Cinema says, "Ien Chi often portrays various types of psychology in his films....Stride and Stonewall particularly assembled together concepts of inner strength and optimism which led the way to humanitarian drama films." I hope this reference is good enough. Ien Chi is one of my favorite directors partly because he is my second cousin but also because of the strength and message of his short films. But I'm sorry to say there not many websites and/or books with his name. Ien Chi graduated from Seoul Foreign School i believe in 1991.

He seems reasonably notable, but do you also have a reference for his being a SFS graduate? I don't mean to be nitpicky, but per WP:V we do need some form of reliable verification. -- Visviva 12:54, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Yes, unfortunately the two books I put up do not say that he is a Seoul Foreign School graduate in them. But I know that he is for sure because I met him at our family reunion because he is my second cousin and I remember him telling me that he graduated from Seoul Foreign School. If you would really really really like me to find a source that says he is a Seoul Foreign School graduate then I will but would rather not because it would take some time. Otherwise, the 1991 Seoul Foreign School yearbook will have his name in it.

Hello I'd just like to say, someone keeps deleting Ien Chi from the notable alumni section. This action is not appropriate and i do have refrences to Ien Chi. Please stop deleting Ien Chi from the notable alumni section.

Unfortunately, unless you can provide references specifically linking him to Seoul Foreign School, that information does not belong here. Again, please see Wikipedia:Verifiability. -- Visviva 05:08, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

But there is verifiable information provided in the references section.

I'd like to point out, Eddie Shin from Seoul Foreign School is a singer and not an actor. The article of Eddie Shin the link leads to has no indication that he had anything to do with singing. These are two different Eddie Shins.

[edit] Blatantly False Info

I would like to point out that Ien Chi is not an alumni (yet) here (taken from the Seoul Foreign High School 2005-2006 yearbook. He is a 10th grader (who does, however according to SFS students, produce short films). Also, David Lim is NOT a stuntman/martial artist. He is an 11th grader currently attending Seoul Foreign School. Jason 09:42, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

But define "truth." If this prediction turns out to be right, we're clairvoyant. If it doesn't, it's average Wikipedia vandalism. It's a school site, too, and so the students and alumni are the only ones who we can plan on visiting it. Just have a little fun, and you too can be as great as MagnaSepta 14:00, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Refer to the official Wikipedia policy on notability. This takes precedence over what you call "clairvoyant". If you wish to be clairvoyant, Wikipedia is not the place for your unconstructive edits. Jason 16:12, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Firstly. Clairvoyance obviously beats Wikipedia any day. Secondly. Who really cares, besides you? It's funny. Don't you get it? No, I see you don't. 'Cause if you did, you would be just like MagnaSepta 04:38, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

I see that you are quite an interesting specimen. You may (or may not be Clara the Clairvoyant hopefully, you are not Esteban García). However, you shall be stopped by Jason, (a message?) 06:08, 15 February 2007 (UTC). Back to J-Pop.

It is not blatantly false information. Ien Chi is NOT a 9th grader at SFS. He is an alumni currently producing short films in California with Focus Features. Or maybe it is a ridiculous coincidence that they are both Ien Chi. May I ask where you got the information that he is a 9th grader at SFS from?

I would like to place the burden on the opposition of proving Ien Chi's notability. Given the fact that you are an anonymous IP (61.72.47.41) constantly editing the Wikipedia page for Seoul Foreign School, and the forementioned edits are continually reverted due to a lack of proof of notability, as user Twigletmac has warned you for as well, that you need to discover the source that determines Ien Chi as notable. Also, please refer to the [1] that I performed to find any traces of this ever elusive Ien Chi. Needless to say, no sources were found. Maybe, if you truly can come up with that important source, you can truly be like MagnaSepta... sorry, I meant Jason, (a message?) 12:00, 17 February 2007 (UTC).

I'm confused because before I already provided sources regarding Ien Chi's notability but it seems to have been deleted. I'll just put it up again.

No, you are not confused. You seem to be deliberately adding unsourced information onto Wikipedia. In one of your sources (Jean Mitry, The Aesthetics and Psychology of the Cinema), using Google Books [2], there is no occurrence of the phrase "Ien Chi" anywhere within the book. Therefore, the source that you have stated is unacceptable as evidence of the notibility of Ien Chi. I shall repeat myself... Maybe, if you truly can come up with that important source, you can truly be like MagnaSepta... sorry, I meant Jason, (a message?) 13:39, 18 February 2007 (UTC).

Sheesh people, can't we just have a little bit of fun? I mean come on, seriously. Why do the wikipedia people have to be so Beaurocratic? It's not like the notable alumni information is going to hurt anyone. And please don't respond by telling me to go read the Wikipedia rules and that every piece of information needs citable sources. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 61.72.47.41 (talk • contribs).

This isn't very persuasive. Please source notability and status as an alumnus as others have also requested. It seems fairly clear that the name is challenged and should thus be cited. Thanks. skip (t / c) 10:38, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Hello once again I've provided references. I'd just like to say gokugohan keeps deleting the references I put up.

[edit] Article Quality Rating

Moving Article to C-Class/Unstable from Unstable. Jason 10:50, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Article Rank Change

Moving article to 4th rank from 5th rank. I think that this article is a little bit more than an very small topic area. Not quite 3rd rank though, I'll admit.