Talk:Seka Aleksić
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[edit] DISPUTE?
Do we have a dispute?
Bosnian?Oh,common.She was only born in Bosnia.She lived in a village near Sabac for her entire life.
Bosnian-born Serbian singer.
Yeah she was only born in Bosnia, but her nationality is serbian, she has a tipical serbian name, and her entire life she lived in Serbia.
ACCUALLY her mom was a muslim and her dad was a serb. after her parents got devorced she went with her mom, so she is more muslim then serbian. i kno..its sucks but she is.
[edit] Article gutted?!?
It's beyond me why this article has been decimated by the recent edits by 72.145.141.171. He/she is taking out information that appears relevant to the article. Unless a valid reason for his changes is given, I'm reverting his edits. --Oatmeal batman 14:33, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
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- It is silly to argue about many of these things. Nationality as we from the former Yugoslavia prefer to render it is somewhat different to the world outside; nowhere else in Europe do you have people from the same town and speaking the same language claiming to be a member of a different national group on Mickey Mouse principles, but it is their choice. The pop/folk world is largely outside politics and isolation: Seka's parents having different nationalities though still with their bases within the country of the time is rather typical of many people. To say she is Bosnian-Serb or Bosniak is of complete irrelevance, suffice it to say that it's her own business. It is fair to give her town of birth, and country where that may be today, the rest is meaningless, her religion is her own business; unless she makes a spectacle of it, announces it in interviews and declares herself publicly to only be associated with one type of people, the national affiliation should be left out. But these kind of people don't become popular sensations, certainly not outside their nation so to speak. It is clear that the enjoyment of music, for performers and listeners alike remains disaffected by the internal wars, it leaves two worlds in the Balkans: this one where people can celebrate who they are and embrace each other, or that of Tomislav Nikolic, Ivo Sanader and interfering outsiders (Solana, Del Ponte etc) - it is the latter who are concerned "is he Bosniak? or is Croat?" They (the latter) can rot to the pitchfork, but those who enjoy music and good food should do so regardless. Evlekis 14:15, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
- Kudos. Please let me know, if you have similar problems in other articles. Fossa 00:31, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
- It is silly to argue about many of these things. Nationality as we from the former Yugoslavia prefer to render it is somewhat different to the world outside; nowhere else in Europe do you have people from the same town and speaking the same language claiming to be a member of a different national group on Mickey Mouse principles, but it is their choice. The pop/folk world is largely outside politics and isolation: Seka's parents having different nationalities though still with their bases within the country of the time is rather typical of many people. To say she is Bosnian-Serb or Bosniak is of complete irrelevance, suffice it to say that it's her own business. It is fair to give her town of birth, and country where that may be today, the rest is meaningless, her religion is her own business; unless she makes a spectacle of it, announces it in interviews and declares herself publicly to only be associated with one type of people, the national affiliation should be left out. But these kind of people don't become popular sensations, certainly not outside their nation so to speak. It is clear that the enjoyment of music, for performers and listeners alike remains disaffected by the internal wars, it leaves two worlds in the Balkans: this one where people can celebrate who they are and embrace each other, or that of Tomislav Nikolic, Ivo Sanader and interfering outsiders (Solana, Del Ponte etc) - it is the latter who are concerned "is he Bosniak? or is Croat?" They (the latter) can rot to the pitchfork, but those who enjoy music and good food should do so regardless. Evlekis 14:15, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
I never thought that I'd find myself involved in an edit war on a turbo folk singer, but now that my favorite laïka singer got involved, I couldn't resist. This will likely make its way to lamest edit wars, and maybe I could practice my favorite wikisport as a bonus. Who on Earth cares about the ethnic background of a person whose interview is titled "Sex is crucial for love"? Why does it matter? Like Evlekis said, if she doesn't appear to care, why should we? Duja► 13:05, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
- Aye aye to that. Bye now, I gotta put on my shiny shirt and catch up with my singing and plate throwing. Nice to see I've fans across the Balkans. NikoSilver 13:35, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
Hah! I've been to Turkish bouzoukia too in Istanbul (actually it was ...Angela Dimitriou <<---p-p-please read that, all of it!!). No. They don't throw flowers there (let alone plates!) NikoSilver 14:33, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
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- I have an even better idea. I never thought I'd find myself reasoning this way on Wikipedia either but, as I presume we are all men, let's agree that she has a lovely round pair of thighs! Evlekis 16:37, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] SERB
She opt for Serbdom, you should accept that.
1. *Seka in Croatia... Read it!
2. *Seka Aleksic blog on SERBIA AND EUROPE! READ IT! Seka is obviously caring about Serbia's future!
[edit] Bosnian or Serbian
I'm really going to abuse my administrative privileges on this article, and hand off a couple of blocks, because you people really piss me off. If someone can kindly and logically explain how someone who is born in Bosnia and lived there until age 10 or so, and lived in Serbia for the rest of her life and career can be called "Bosnian", without mentioning Serbia, I'd appreciate. As for nationalistic feelings, I'd really like to concede her to some other country (please also take Ante Pavelić and Vojislav Šešelj as Bosnians, under the same criterion), but alas facts and common sense don't permit.
You are all kindly referred to WP:1RR and, unless I see some rational explanations going on this talk page, I'll impose it. Duja► 09:14, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
- Look, who's talking. Your brilliant revert again doubled the "information" about Seka's birthplace. So, you'll be the first to report. Seriously, I still cannot believe that reverting with source is supposed to be just as bad as without one. That gives free reign to the majority of POV warriors. And a majority it is. BTW: Who gives a rat's ass about Seka's ethnicity? Fossa 23:53, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
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- (having calmed down somewhat). OK, sorry if I offended you (although I didn't refer to you in particular); I lost my temper. I'm the first who doesn't give a rat's ass about Seka's ethnicity, but I was pretty annoyed by the ones who do and lack the ability to discuss their opinions at the talk page. Besides, some shouting can be productive from time to time... hopefully.
Duja► 15:06, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
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- Oh, don't worry, you didn't offend me, I am just generally grumpy towards Wikipedia and the characters who are editing (and "administrating") it. Wikipedia tends to do a lousy job, just like in this case, where some Serbian and Bosnian nationalist versions were alternating. I'm most of the time on the German Wikipedia, which is equally bad, by the way, and so, even though I might appear as a novice, I am not. It nevertheless ticks me off that hardly anyone pays attention to reputable sources and instead gives (almost) free reign to POV warriors, which in case of the former YU tend to be nationalists. Cheers, Fossa 00:18, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
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- FYI: DJ Bungi (talk • contribs • logs). Article namespace edits: 1615. Talk namespace edits: 25 (!) (brief checking: all of those seem to be Talk page moves). Edit summary usage: lazy to check, but close to 0%. I'm at loss what kind of persuasion and arguments is available. Duja► 15:27, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
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