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[edit] Wikiproject

Is there a Seinfeld wikiproject? If not, is there any speculation about creating one? Mbatman72 02:36, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Characters

I have taken away the character info on the main seinfeld page and moved it to their own character pages however I have copied and pasted small pieces of information from their main character info pages which sums up their chacters and linked these to their characetr pages as well. This is to shorten the article and make it easier to read.

[edit] Season 8 & 9???

Why is there a spot for a "potential" Season 8 & 9? I've heard nothing on the matter Mike Flynn 18:37, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Coca cola trivia

In the trivia list this point appears: In various episodes where one or more of the main characters are shown on the street, there is sometimes a Coca-Cola advertisement. However, it is scratched up and distorted looking. This was done to bypass having to pay the Coca-Cola company.

Why is that when we have a clearly reference to Coca Cola company in at least one episode: The BIg Salad. Elaine is drinking a cola light. --80.161.192.58 20:12, 9 March 2007 (UTC) tonny

[edit] reason I removed the following statement

The article claimed that, "In fact, because the first episode order came from the Late Night and Specials department, Seinfeld is technically not a sitcom, but a very long series of comedy specials."

I apologize if my reasoning offends the author of this statement, but this is simply a ludicrous conclusion. Something is not defined by who pays for its production, and in this case, that means that "Seinfeld" cannot be defined by the NBC department that had room in its budget for production. This is like saying, "In fact, because the first few elevators in the NBC building came from the Late Night and Specials department budget, these elevators are technically not elevators at all, but a group of comedy specials." A sitcom is defined by its structure and narrative form, not its funding.Minaker 14:54, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Running Gags

I deleted the section entitled Running Gags due to the fact that there is an exhaustive sub-article highlighting these gags and most of the owns that were listed on the main article are also listed on the sub-article. T. White 06:19, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

The running gags page can be found at Running gags in Seinfeld. T. White 06:20, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] A lot of gumph.

Ive deleted several parts of the thread. The idea is to provide info on Seinfled, not provide a synopsis of every episode or their employment history in the show.

I deleted the episode highlights, as that is just a matter of opinion. I deleted the character employment parts.

I deleted a few other bits and bobs that were either already mentioned, or werent really essential. The article is too long and I feel a few people are getting carried away.

Hi 82.41.106.25, I agree with you that this article is very long. Also it contains a lot of info on individual episodes that are just trivia. Those should be pruned. But you also delete a lot of real information that is well written and complete with references. Why do you delete those also? I think removing information from articles just like that is not the way forward. Sander123 09:59, 17 November 2006 (UTC)


[edit] what song?

Does any one know what song was playing (in the back ground)of the Seinfeld episode when George & his mother walked in on Kramer placing a man-siere (a.ka. the bro) on George's Dad. Thanks

All I know is that it is a mambo or cha-cha type record --Mikecraig 21:09, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Seinfeld Curse

I noticed that past versions contained this information and that it was removed (drastic changes have been made with no note on the talk page, unfortunately). Well, I'm adding the information back in, with references. I see why the article needed to be cleaned up, but the "Seinfeld curse," is definitely relevant to this article. Robocracy 07:05, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Actually, the previous information in this article on the Seinfeld curse was fairly good, IMO, and I think I'm just going to restore it under the section title "Seinfeld Curse." Robocracy 07:21, 21 November 2006 (UTC)


Definitely like the new section. Perhaps we can move some parts of it to pages dedicated to the individuals. For example that Jerry Seinfeld was touring in 1998 maybe should be on his own page? That way this page remains dedicated to the sitcom. I'll do some editing later. Sander123 08:13, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
Fine the new section is great and all, but it's way too long, and a lot of the information has nothing to do with the 'Seinfeld Curse', especially that part about the show that was supposedly a rip off of Seinfeld. Lets be realistic, either get rid of half of that section, or create another section, maybe 'After Seinfeld' citing stuff about Seinfelds influence on other shows, and the careers of the actors. Just a thought. Arthur5005 11:18, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
You know reading this over again, it is much cleaner than it was months ago, but it's those hardcore dedicated Seinfeld fans that want to pursue every venue of information and vomit it back on to wikipedia, that ruins this article. I LOVE Seinfeld just as much as anyone and this article is BEGGING to be on the front page of Wikipedia, it just needs someone with 'guts' to clean it up a little and cut out the pork. Thanks!! Arthur5005 11:21, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, I noticed that when I looked the old version, the info on the Seinfeld curse was too extensive, so I did make some minor revisions, here and there. I admit the section still needs a little work. Robocracy 22:55, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
It's just too long - the article itself is really fantastic, and of such high quality (especially for a pop culture article), but the "Seinfeld curse" section really only needs to be a paragraph explaining what did and didn't happen with the careers of those three stars. If the topic of a "Seinfeld curse" is so interesting, spawn it off onto a separate article - don't keep expanding it here. Stevage 02:07, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
I really agree. I don't want to do it now as nobody has responded to Stevage's comment, but the Seinfeld Curse deals not just with Seinfeld but with all high-profile shows. There should be a paragraph on it on the Seinfeld Page but it should be its own separate article. Thoughts? Scholarus 04:33, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

On closer inspection, a lot of the material is not actually about the so called curse, but is actually relevant material about what the actors have done since the show. So I've renamed that section "Careers after Seinfeld" (feel free to improve on it). However, I've removed the following paragraph, as it's really only very tangentially connected to Seinfeld: Stevage 12:40, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

In the 1999-2000 television season, ABC aired the short-lived series It's Like, You Know.... Taking its title from a common West Coast catchphrase, the series revolved around the lives of five eclectic residents of Los Angeles, including actress Jennifer Grey (portraying herself). However, it was considered to be highly derivative of Seinfeld [citation needed], and was cancelled after 19 episodes. Interestingly, the series was created by Seinfeld writer Peter Mehlman.
That's fine with me. I think this paragraph belongs in a Seinfeld Curse article, not a Seinfeld article. I might create a "Seinfeld Curse" article; I think it's its own, meritworthy topic. Scholarus 03:02, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Having looked over the article, I actually think that it is quite good except for the Life After Seinfeld section and the Product Placement section. Scholarus 03:55, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Addition of External Links

Do you think that the official Seinfeld MySpace Page should be added under the EXTERNAL LINKS section and the main SHOW INFO box.

The URL is | Offical Seinfeld MySpace Page.

How can we go about getting this updated?

Cbates76 01:16, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Haven't heard back from anyone..but it's also important to note that the logo with the blue triangle is not the offical syndicated logo anymore. I can provide the correct logo with proper red triangle if anyone wants to help me include the MySpace address. Cbates76 08:39, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Minor Characters

I added a summary of the minor characters. Scholarus 03:55, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Trivia- Superman in every episode?

is this a joke?192.30.202.29 22:48, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Superman is on Jerry's fridge as a magnet in every single episode.Cbates76 05:32, 3 December 2006 (UTC)


The Parking Garage, and The Chinese Restaurant have no scenes in Jerry's apartment, and contain no other references to Superman.
Sana 21:55, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] To Do List

I added a To Do List so that we can determine some of the things we need to fix. Scholarus 00:04, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] NPOV?

Whats up with the accusation of going too far and stuff in the season 7, 8 and 9 descriptions? Seems unfit for wikipedia if you ask me... --129.241.156.75 23:33, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Exactly. It is just someone's opinion, but seems to have slipped through un-detected. I have never heard of that before, so I put up a POV warning to readers until it is sorted. A lot of this article is terribly POV. The descriptive headings a really pov as well, Season Seven Finale: Too Far? etc. Davey4 08:44, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Michael Richards

I took the bit about Richards at the Laugh Factory out of the Sucesses section. Maybe it should be mentioned, but certainly not in that section. If anybody wants to reproduce it, here it is:

On November 17 that same year, Michael Richards wasa performing at in West Hollywood's Laugh Factory when he responded to a pair of black hecklers in what many have called a "racial tirade." While Richards has apologized, many pundits have speculated that it has damaged his career beyond repair.

caz | speak 22:36, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Trivia Game

Isn't a Seinfeld trivia game relevant for the trivia section? I put a link to the game there and it was deleted. Then, I just mentioned the game (without any link) along with the fact that Seinfeld trivia has increased in popularity since the show has gone off the air, and it was deleted again. I'm not trying to overstep any bounds. I'm just trying to understand the process.

Sounds like you were inappropriately deleted, as long as the link was not to a money-making item. Please sign your entries (and subsequent readers will take your edits more seriously). Sfahey 13:54, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] A radical idea for getting this article featured, finally...

Why don't we, instead of clamouring to find sources, just 'remove' some of the uncited claims that are unnecessary? Or would this hurt the article's chances of being featured? Just a theory I'd like to put fourth, I mean.--Dark Green 18:33, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

I noticed that about 95% of wikipedia is uncited, it can't just be all removed. Ecostaz 15:29, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Season 8

I just want to confirm that season eight will be coming out on DVD and i expect season nine will too.

[edit] Premiere

The article now states:

The show premiered as The Seinfeld Chronicles on Thursday, May 31, 1989 on NBC. The show was not an immediate success. After the pilot was shown, on July 5, 1989, ...

Why are there two dates? Isn't the premiere the same thing as it for the first time? Can somebody clarify this? [1] gives also the july 5 date. Sander123 08:29, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 'greatest show ever, period'?

The top paragraph of the page says it is the greatest show ever- is this backed by the nielsen ratings discussed, or is just purely a statement? If so, I think many would probably disagree (though I do love the show- I'd perhaps put Grey's Anatomy in the running for the best show ever) Just a thought. --btrotter 06:18, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

outstanding. I went to fix the greatest show period comment and when i pulled up the edit page it was fxed already. 24.237.207.0 16:35, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

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