Talk:Seif Islam Qaddafi Isratine proposal
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"reliable sources" ? Can you cite them? - FrancisTyers 10:21, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Qaddafi talks about an united Israel/Palestina
At the Swedish TV-channel Kunskapskanalen they showed a documentry that is part of a series called "De skapade historia" and the episode has been named "Khadaffi" (Aired first time as I know of 2006-02-07 21:30CET and rerun 2006-02-08 18:00CET). Qaddafi talks about the White book with what he belives is the only way to get a lasting peace in todays Israel/Palestina and naming the new state as Isratine.
As far as I know the documentry was produced by DR in a project founded by the nordic state owned tv-channels (at least DR, YLE, SVT, NRK).
Myself I have had thoughts in a similar solution, as Israel is depending on the Palestinan labour force and Palestina is depending on the money from Israel, both wants Jerusalem as the capital of the state. Palestina will control important areas for the Jews and Israel will control important areas for the Muslims and Christians, so to give everyone free access to thise palces would be more logical to form one state which allows religious freedom and where state and religion is separated from eachother.
Found a link to the most reliable source, ALGathafi
Trizt 10:29, 10 Feb 2006 (UTC)
- The link appears dead now, so I will remove it. It would be good if anyone could find a new reference.
- -Ingar R -- IP 80.203.45.142, 00:38, 11 August 2006
The link says that not all historical details... are accurate-- can anyone clarify which ones are disputed? Lusanaherandraton 07:37, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
- To start with the second paragraph of http://www.algathafi.org/medialeast/medialeast-en.htm , the Philistines weren't "the original inhabitants of the land" -- the Philistines were part of the migration of the "Sea Peoples" from the Aegean area, and didn't enter Canaan until a little after 1200 B.C. Furthermore, the Philistines only occupied the southern coastal plain (i.e. the location of the Philistine city-states of Gaza, Ashdod, Ascalon and a few others). Thus פלשת / παλαιστινη / Palaestina meant "Philistia" (i.e. the southern coastal plain) and not the whole land of Canaan/Israel -- until a semi-arbitrary renaming by the Roman emperor Hadrian ca. 135 A.D.
- So much for the first two sentences of the second paragraph. I'm sure I could go on at further great length to deconstruct the rest of this document, if either you or I had the patience... AnonMoos 09:31, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
I think that "not all historical details... are accurate" is a "characterizing opinion of people's work". Please consider removing this statement or link to a discussion about a possible rebuttal. Thanks.
Ichihi 15:33, 30 Jul 2006 (UTC)
- Actually Wikipedia:Neutral point of view#Characterizing opinions of people's work seems to be mainly about applying inherently subjective adjectives like "fascinating", "magnificent", etc. AnonMoos 19:55, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
