Talk:Sega Mega Drive

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Video games. For more information, visit the project page, where you can join the project and/or contribute to the discussion.	CVG Portal
B	This article has been rated as B-Class on the assessment scale.
	This article is supported by the Sega task force.
	This article has an archived CVG peer review that may contain ideas for improvement.
CVG To-do: edit  Gaming Collaboration of the week: Imagic Expand: New CVG Articles, Normality, Pac-Man World 2, Operation Flashpoint: Elite, Call of Juarez, Galactic Civilizations II: Dark Avatar, Ford Street Racing, Betrayal at Krondor CVG Peer Review: List of F-Zero titles, Kya: Dark Lineage, Wii Remote, Dynasty Warriors 4, The Sims 2, The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past, Kirby's Dream Land, Electronic sports, Fire Emblem, Dante (Devil May Cry), The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, Final Fantasy XII, Sonic the Hedgehog (16-bit), Classes in World of Warcraft Cleanup: Age of Mythology, Mario Kart: Double Dash!!, Betrayal at Krondor, List of Nintendo trademarks Merge: Deletions / Essential articles / Magazines Assess and Prioritise articles (Log)

/Archive 1

/Archive 2

Contents 1 Avoiding duplication of content 2 Teradrive vs. Mega PC 3 Merging Sega Genesis/Sega Mega Drive 4 Colors 5 Proposed move 5.1 Survey and discussion 6 There is such thing as a Sega Genesis! 7 Brainstorming session - stuff that needs adding 8 request for input: Variations of the Sega Mega Drive needs rework 9 Too many "death of the Genesis" comments 10 Genesis in ... 11 PC-Engine 12 Concerning the text-tation of lists 13 Sega's Market share in 1994 unearthed. 14 Mega Drive II picture? 15 Top Selling Game 16 this statement: Re Roleplay games. 17 Removed overclocking link 18 "Mega Drive" for Consistency?

[edit] Avoiding duplication of content

I can understand the earlier arguments about US bias, but the current solution is far too messy in my view. OK, it's worth acknowledging that the console is known by two different names, but it hardly warrants creating two separate Wikipedia articles with almost identical content.

Here's my proposal. If we're going to have separate articles at all, Sega Genesis should be a brief article on the history of the Mega Drive in North America (with details of the name change, marketing campaigns, commercial success, etc.), while Sega Mega Drive should be the main article with technical specifications and the overall history of the Mega Drive/Genesis project. It should be possible to create these from the existing articles without too much hair-tearing.

As far as I can see, the only other realistic options are: merge everything back into one article (preferably Sega Mega Drive, for reasons already stated, with Sega Genesis as a redirect), or create separate articles for "Sega Genesis in North America", "Sega Mega Drive in Europe", "Sega Mega Drive in Japan" etc. See my comments on Talk:Sega Genesis. AdorableRuffian 00:36, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)

People will start arguing over which one to move into. Will it be Megadrive or Genesis? See, that's why it is best to keep them seperate. There is enough content on both sides so that they stay seperate. WhisperToMe 22:08, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)

In my view, you've removed one problem but created another (i.e. the duplication, which is likely to lead to someone re-merging the articles again at some point, as well as making editing difficult). I just wanted to try and find a compromise.

From what I've seen of the discussion, nobody would object to Sega Mega Drive being the 'main' article, so long as the Sega Genesis article also had substantial content. All I'm suggesting is that for the non-specific info, like the tech specs and so on, Sega Genesis should simply link to the Mega Drive article, instead of having info duplicated from that article, as it does at present. That's painless, surely? AdorableRuffian 00:47, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC)

I agree with this. The Mega Drive article should be the main article dealing with non-specific details on the system, and the Sega Genesis should deal specifically with the sale/marketing and elarborate on the unique variations of the console (such as the Genesis 3 and Nomad) in North America. It's a hideous mess having pretty much the same info on two different articles! --Zilog Jones 10:37, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Yes, that's probably the best way of doing it. Although as I said here, the whole thing is a really petty argument and we don't want to end up with a revert war! --Nick R 19:49, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

This is getting pretty silly though - at least 50% of the content is identical on both pages, and since this argument started the Famicom and NES pages have been successfully merged together, so this should be treated the same except with Mega Drive being the main page - NES was chosen as the main article for the NES/Famicom is the NES name was used everywhere outside Asia, including most English-speaking countries - with the MD/Genesis it was strictly only North America that used the "Genesis" title, and only because of trademark issues. --Zilog Jones 16:05, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Teradrive vs. Mega PC

These two systems are totally different and shouldn't be under the same section, and it's "Teradrive", not "Terra Drive"!

The Teradrive was made by or in association with IBM in Japan, which was based on a 286 system. More info here: http://nfg.2y.net/games/teradrive/

The Mega PC was made entirely by Amstrad, under license from Sega. It bears NO RESEMBLANCE to the Teradrive at all, except for the fact it was an Intel-based PC with Mega Drive hardware in one. --Zilog Jones 15:59, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)

hi

[edit] Merging Sega Genesis/Sega Mega Drive

To be honest, I think it's kind of ridiculous that there is still two articles which primarily duplicate content and I think they should be merged. I've added merge disputed to this page, are there still objections to this being merged though? Halo 09:37, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

I agree that a merger should take place, but under a page title such as 'Sega Megadrive/Genesis' or something else neutral like that. If one must be picked, which I would absolutely argue that it doesn't, then the fact that it was only named the Genesis on one half of one continent while it carried the name 'Megadrive' for 4 1/2 other continents should probably be acknowledged. It also maintained a much bigger proportional share of the 16bit market in Europe (under the Megadrive name) than it did in either the USA or Japan due to the great success of the Master System in that region and the comparative failure of the NES. ThomasHarte 22:43, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

Generally one must be picked, as "Sega Megadrive/Genesis" looks clunky, and then an order argument would ensue anyway. WhisperToMe 23:09, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

For the most part I have no problem, except for the obvious fact that any change made is going to upset someone. And considering the amount of people that seem to care about what the article is called, this article title will almost certainly be changed again no matter what you do. Merge it, it'll be seperated. Rename either, and there'll be another long discussion about why the name is wrong. It might as well just be left as is, though perhaps removing more detail from either article so that it is not duplicated and so that linking between the two is necessary. Of course, then you have to decide which one to trim down and the problem isn't really solved... -- Supermorff 13:45, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

Then we should logically use the Mega Drive article for all general information since it was the name used in the majority of countries. The "Manual of Style" states that "[f]or the English Wikipedia, there is no preference among the major national varieties of English" - so the various arguments that 'English wikipedia is primarily for Americans' are based on an incorrect understanding of the wikipedia style guides. I therefore continue to vote for Mega Drive due to worldwide use of that name versus a one territory use of another.

I suggest the way to move forwards, as consensus appears not to be possible is to conduct a survey (as per Wikipedia:Survey guidelines) and use the basis of that to integrate whatever parts of the two articles into whatever place as the survey results suggest. If the result of the survey continues to be disputed (e.g. further edits to return to the current state) then continue down the paths indicated by Wikipedia:Dispute resolution.

Surveys should be proposed then discussed for at least a week beforehand, so to kick us off I suggest the following form for the survey:

Vote for where you think all information related to both the Mega Drive and Genesis should be deposited - the Sega Mega Drive page or the Sega Genesis page.

Arguments in favour of Sega Mega Drive:

• The Wikipedia:Manual of Style states that "there is no preference among the major national varieties of English", so the correct depository should not be picked according merely to specific locations in which either name was used
• The name Sega Mega Drive was used internationally, the name Genesis only in North America
• A google search for "megadrive" returns 1,440,000 hits. A search for "Sega Genesis" returns only 1,190,000, implying that the Megadrive name is more popular. A search for merely "Genesis" finds the Phil Collins rock band and the biblical book with no mention of Sega until the fifth page. The megadrive search returns Sega related results until at least the twentieth page.

Arguments in favour of Sega Genesis:

• A fairer google search compares Sega Megadrive with 864,000 to Sega Genesis with 1,190,000 - Megadrive has another meaning in the US

anyway, that's literally all I've been able to find in favour of Genesis from this talk page, although M123 seems to have come up with alternate results that google.com doesn't verify for me. Hopefully someone else can fill in more Genesis reasons or else it isn't going to be much of a survey! ThomasHarte 17:54, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

I cannot argue with anything you've said. I will therefore merely point out that the Megadrive console can be spelled either as "Mega Drive" or "Megadrive", and that the google statistics should reflect this. I suggest keeping both pages, with the Megadrive page the only one to contain the technical information (as suggested previously on one of these pages). Also, only one of them needs a 'screenshots' section. It doesn't add a lot, in my opinion. Proceed with the survey if you wish. -- Supermorff 13:28, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

While technically yes, you can argue that the Mega Drive is technically the more used name worldwide, it doesn't strike me as the more commonly used name. I know, statistics prove otherwise (and I did my own little research on that matter; "Mega Drive" beats out "Sega Genesis" by a decent margin, though "Sega Genesis" beats out "Sega Mega Drive" almost 3:1), but even still, it feels wrong. I can't really explain it, either. I guess it's just cultural differences or something. Almost like merging "Starburst (confectionery)" into "Opal Fruits", barring the fact that "Opal Fruits" was renamed "Starburst" a few years back. It just... doesn't seem right to me. And I can almost guarantee there'll be others who think the exact same thing, only with merging "Mega Drive" into "Genesis". I find it hard to conceive of a solution that'll actually appease everybody, other than moving the article to Sega Mega Drive / Genesis, but that's just clunky. --Shadow Hog 04:51, 8 September 2005 (UTC)

Of course, Genesis presumably feels just as wrong to people like me in a Mega Drive territory as Mega Drive does to you, but is there anything offensive in removing from the Genesis article everything pertinent to both machines but leaving all of the American specifics in place - as suggested by various others above? So, specifically, strip "Development" to something tiny about how the decision to bring the successfully developed Mega Drive to America ran into name problems, keep all of "Release", cut down text of non-American specifc Mega Drive variants machines in "Versions", entirely remove technical specifications, remove whatever nuggets of trivia aren't generic (which will be mostly those that explicitly or implicitly reference the Majesco machine). So the main body of text, i.e. that in "Release" would be completely unaffected.

Looking at the question as I had it formulated, I don't think its worth having a survey. They're meant to help reach consensus in decision making (as wikipedia isn't a democracy) but such a one sided question is unlikely to achieve that. ThomasHarte 18:16, 8 September 2005 (UTC)

Looks like someone has already moved the article wholesale to Genesis/Mega Drive, so I guess that ends that debate! ThomasHarte 18:22, 8 September 2005 (UTC)

No it doesn't. The move was made unilaterally by an anon without any actual discussion on the subject, and quite honestly, the result is pathetic, and opens the dangerous precedent of renaming all articles where goods with different names exist on both UK and US to this combination. The console was originally named "Mega Drive" and then renamed due to trademark issues, and except for google hits I don't see any reason why the "Genesis" branding should be given such an importance. US-centrism at it's best. ^wS;✉ 23:29, 8 September 2005 (UTC)

I agree with wolfenSilva, the page was moved without any formal concensus so this matter is not closed. If we are to use a dual title, then we should use chronological order to determine which which name goes first. "Mega Drive" is the original name, and therefore it should be first. However I think using dual titles is silly idea. I suggest each article article should be titled to the original name when launched, then use a redirect to that page for all other names. Articles should follow some kind of chronological order for the sake of documenting its history. ADSR6581 08:47, September 9, 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia being a resource where all decisions are made by consensus, the fact that there is disagreement means that the retitle was a bad move, regardless of whether or not I agree with it and I accept that point. But in my view the "Genesis" brand should be given some significance because the Majesco Genesis 3 is, as far as I can tell from the material currently present, a unique instance of Sega licensing the hardware to a third party and it being radically redesigned, and I can't see why most of the American specific information can't remain in a Genesis article (e.g. the Sega Channel, the 65%/35% market share remarks), even if the introductory paragraph is along the lines of "The Sega Genesis is the North American version of the Sega Megadrive, renamed because Sega where unable to use the machine's original name from its earlier Japanese launch" or something else like that sufficient to indicate that the Genesis name was a fallback used only in one territory and the console already existed under a different name.

So the question is - what to do now? ThomasHarte 15:11, 9 September 2005 (UTC)

I don't see the significence of the Majesco Genesis 3. Unless we are suddenly going to also acknowledge the (equally limited) significence of the officially licenced Tectoy Mega Drive 3, released in Brazil which was also developed by a 3rd party. Sure, there are several reasons why the Genesis name could be given significence, but Majesco's piece of crap certainly isn't one of them.

I think the Sega Mega Drive/Genesis could be successfully merged into one article, which IMO should be Sega Mega Drive, with info on the origin on the Genesis name. Mega Drive because it's the original name, used in the most markets, and was only changed due to it already being trademarked. Then again, I am biased. I just hope it doesn't descend into a move war. Halo 12:47, 10 September 2005 (UTC)

I don't put into question the relevance of the Genesis; like with any other console article, it would have its own section (In North America as Genesis, for instance) where all the related information can go. What I'm questioning is the relevance of the brand outside north america (which is none) in order to have so much hassle about having an article alone about it or warranting place in the article name. ^wS;✉ 13:19, 10 September 2005 (UTC)

The Makesco Genesis 3 is just the first example of something "Genesis specific" I could think of. I don't think it has great relevance on its own, although as an encyclopedic resource it should obviously go in especially as it seems to have some unique hardware quirks that indicate an electronically redesigned system rather than a mere licensing of the existing design. Not that I believe you were suggesting otherwise. It might be nice to get some more information on the Tec Toy variations too.

If everyone is in agreement then I guess editing the current article named Sega Genesis / Sega Mega Drive so that a lot of the Genesis specific information is moved underneath a common heading rather to Sega Megadrive. And presumably this also means renaming Gallery of Sega Genesis screenshots, Sega Genesis Game List, Category:Sega Genesis games and probably lots of others I haven't found. Although in the case of the screenshots it'd technically be incorrect since anything with English text should be squashed and given black borders to represent a true English language Megadrive output. But then again I note that the existing page references such images as Image:MD Street Fighter II.png.

If all resistence is gone, I guess the move should be done immediately. ThomasHarte 16:26, 10 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Colors

The Genesis can only display 61 colors without tricks. There are 4 16 color palletes; however, color 0 is used as the transparent color for background planes and sprites so the color 0 entry can only be used for the background color. Since you can only have one background color without using raster effects, we get 4*15+1=61 colors. With tricks the color limit is only 1536 colors not 3072 (unless there's some trick I'm not aware of). Raster effects allow all 512 colors in the pallete onscreen (though only 61 per line) at a time. Shadow/Highlight adds a shadow and highlight version of each color effectively tripling the available pallete (though it imposes some other limitations). When both these effects are combined we get 512*3=1536. No games actually use this many colors, though there have been one or two tech demos that use the technique. I am changing the colors spec back to the older numbers.

Mask of Destiny 01:07, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Proposed move

[edit] There is such thing as a Sega Genesis!

How come you want to want to rename the article to Sega Megadrive? There is such thing as a Sega Genesis (proof: I have one), so don't rename it. 24.121.73.22 14:31, 23 August 2006 (Pacific Time)

Nobody has said that there is no such thing as a Sega Genesis. That would be a rather ludicrous thing to say, considering that Sega has sold tens of millions of the things. What people are saying is that article names that list multiple versions of a product's name with slashes in between them are technically and stylistically bad. Kickaha Ota 21:45, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Well it does seem that renaming it to Sega Megadrive will make people think that there is no Sega Genesis. The first years I had mine I never even knew about the Megadrive, but you are not renaming it (nobody is). 24.121.73.22 15:22, 23 August 2006 (Pacific Time)

Please read the whole discussion above. It stats that the first paragraph of the article explains that it is known as Genesis in the United States and Mega Drive in the rest of the world. What is being said in short is that Sega Genesis is to redirect to Sega Mega Drive, and that Sega Mega Drive is to be the main article since it was the original name. Havok (T/C/c) 05:50, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

There's never going to be a total consensus on this, I'll wager... we can have consensus as above, but you're still going to get complaints left and right.

Me, personally? Saying "Mega Drive" STILL sounds clunky and foreign, and I would've opposed the move above had I known about the vote. Sorry, but seeing everything changed to the British (or Japanese) standard for what's usually discussed about, most everywhere I go, with the American name feels very awkward. I don't see that changing any time soon. Still, in the name of keeping Wikipedia orderly, I'm not going to put up a fight or anything (I don't like it, but I'm not that vexed by it).

Now, Sonic 3D Blast... that's a different story, considering it was made to entirely use the British name without consensus by an IP user. At least this move had a formal vote. --Shadow Hog 21:03, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Saying "Genesis" STILL sounds clunky and foreign for the rest of the World but we accept that it's an alternative name for the console. From my point of view this move wasn't about changing it to a particular country's version to win a victory over another country's version, it was about doing what was right for a particular circumstance, as I said above, I think the Wikipedia naming convention for products should be the original name (or English translation for Japanese) with redirects from alternative names. So Famicom should be the Article and Nintendo Entertainment System should be the redirect, Biohazard should be article and Resident Evil the redirect. In both of those cases an existing product was renamed because of regional marketing problems. - X201 21:58, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

With all due respect, those last two instances might be taking it a bit far. This is the English Wikipedia, not the Japanese one; no English-speaking country, to my knowledge, uses those names for those products. At least here, I can empathize a little more, since both names were used in English-speaking countries. --Shadow Hog 01:33, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

To clearify some stuff; Sega Genesis was the name used for Sega Mega Drive in USA. Bio Hazard was the Japanese name of Resident Evil, the name Resident Evil is used everywhere else. The same goes for Famicom; as Famicom is the japanese name, and NES is the world name. Everyone in the world (except for Japan, maybe some other asian countries) use the word NES. So even bringing that up as a reason to keep the name as either Sega Genesis or Sega Mega Drive/Sega Genesis, is redundant and silly, as the argument isn't even remotly close to being sound reason. This Wikipedia, which you all edit, is not the American Wikipedia, it's the English version of Wikipedia, which I might add, includes quite a few countries, not only america. So there is absolutly no rule that says something must be american. The original name, and the name intended for this console was/is Sega Mega Drive, period. Havok (T/C/c) 07:04, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Well, Most people tha use it are in the USA, right? So it should be the Sega Genesis, Sega Megadrive/Genesis, or just seperate articles. 24.121.73.22 23:36, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Wrong. Pros and cons for either one of the both names were brought (Mega Drive "won"), the slashed name was dropped, seperate articles only bring a lot of redundancy. Further questions or suggestions? --32X 17:28, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Brainstorming session - stuff that needs adding

Right, lets have a quick brainstorm about stuff that needs adding to this article to get to FA status before the SNES. Your favourite console deserves it!. Just add anythhing you think needs adding on to the end.

I think we need to add info about the advertising of the console because, at least hear in the UK, it was the first console to go beyond adverts that were aimed at gamers with "Pirate TV" and "The cyber-razor cut". What were the US campaign(s) like? - X201 22:33, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

How 'bout some REFERENCES? Two refs for the whole article? Hbdragon88 07:05, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

How aobut Good Article status first =/ Sonic3KMaster^(talk) 05:41, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

GA status for Sonic the Hedgehog (character) needed references first, so I think the same would apply here. (Speaking of which, I'm sure that article has a few usable references for this article.) The difference here is that referencing must be absolutely neurotic (every sentence) for FA status, while GA status is much easier to reach. (Generally, one or so references per paragraph is sufficient for GA status.) --DavidHOzAu 05:07, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

I count four external links inside the article text; these can be converted to references, using {{cite web}} inside the <ref> tag. --DavidHOzAu 05:25, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Done. - X201 09:05, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] request for input: Variations of the Sega Mega Drive needs rework

The article about the variations needs a clear rework since the comparisms of the different models are mixed up, for example the PAL MD2 is compared with the PAL MD1 and the JAP MD2 without a clear structure. I've made some suggestions at the talk page but haven't received any input yet. Would be nice if some people would have a look and provide some inputs. --32X 00:52, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Too many "death of the Genesis" comments

There are like ten references to how much more popular the SNES was. This doesn't need to be mentioned all over the place. in fact the article as a whole seems to go out of its way to portray the system (and Sega) as being weak and vulnerable by comparison. I'm going to try and work on reducing this. Chris Cunningham 11:22, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Indeed. Its something quite common across wikipedia really- a pro nintendo bias.

The mega drive was actually more succesful then the snes back during the 16 bit era- the snes only appears to have done better as it was supported a lot longer--Josquius 21:53, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Genesis in ...

This is a question about a recent edit: Was'n the Genesis only released in North America under that brand name? US, Canaday, maybe Mexico? Brazil had the Mega Drive, I don't know about the Spanish/English speaking countries. --32X 23:33, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

My understanding was that it was Genesis in the US because of copyright issues with the Mega Drive name and so to keep it uniform, it was sold in the whole of North America as Genesis. - X201 09:18, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

That's what I meant. But before changing "Americas" to "North America", I wanted to be sure. Besides that, "Mega Drive Logo (Japan & Europe)" gives 2 pieces of information in a wrong context. The logo was only used in Europe and Australasia (nobody cares, haha); PAL asia and Japan had another one. --32X 05:37, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] PC-Engine

"The Mega Drive was released in Japan in 29 October 1988 for ¥21,000, almost exactly a year after the first console popularly classed as a 16-bit machine - the NEC PC Engine."

The PC-Engine is an 8-bit machine, as stated in the Wikipedia article linked from this one. Someone might rewrite that sentence. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Guest Account (talk • contribs) .

But it's "popularly classed" as a 16-bit machine on account of its graphics capabilities. I'll rewrite it to say "the first of the fourth-generation machines" though, to make this clear. Chris Cunningham 15:40, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

The Mega Drive was released in Japan in 29 October 1988 for ¥21,000, almost exactly a year after of the fourth generation consoles - the NEC PC Engine. What? --32X 01:01, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Concerning the text-tation of lists

I actually think technical spec best left as it is as the technical terms were best described using lists.

203.81.161.151 13:05, 26 November 2006 (UTC)HHA

[edit] Sega's Market share in 1994 unearthed.

I did some research and decided to make some corrections to the market share numbers put up there earlier that claimed Sega's market share had fell to 35% in 1994. That is in fact wrong, Nintendo was at 35%, and they recovered to 54% in months of July, August, and September.

I cited the source below, which goes on to mention that Sega had still carried that year with "with a 55% lead in 16-bit sales in the first nine months of 1994 compared with 52% at the same time a year ago"

Nintendo Retakes 16-Bit Sales Crown --- The Christmas Battle Opens As Ex-Champion Sega Shows New `Knuckles' By Jim Carlton. Wall Street Journal. (Eastern edition). New York, N.Y.: Oct 28, 1994. pg. B.5

[edit] Mega Drive II picture?

I think this article would benefit from an image of a Mega Drive II. Unfortunately, I no longer have one, so someone else should take a photo. --Mouse Nightshirt 00:27, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

see Variations of the Sega Mega Drive --32X 00:40, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Done - X201 10:49, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Top Selling Game

How can Sonic the Hedgehog be listed as the top selling game if you look at this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_computer_and_video_games#Sega_Mega_Drive.2FSega_Genesis Zebbe 17:35, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

In my opinion this field doesn't give any valuable information, but nethertheless I've changed it back. (original change) --32X 11:13, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] this statement: Re Roleplay games.

"The Mega Drive continued to hold on to a healthy fan base composed significantly of RPG and sports games fans."

i personaly dont think that this statement is accurate. while i am aware that the megadrive had alot of sports games on i seem to remember very few "role play games" of cource there is phantasy star howeever i can list very few others. to my knowledge the snes was more noted for its RPG while the megadrive seemedattractive to the development of platform games?? perhaps we should consider changing the paragraph or finding some citation to support the statement--Dr noire 19:56, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Removed overclocking link

Epicenter is a person who has barely any concepts on how electronics work (for example see http://www.sega-16.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2016&page=6), plus his site is mostly made up from articles stolen from elsewhere (such as the Ecco and sonic crackers one), so I removed the link for his genesis oc guide before someone ruins his console because of this kids unverified techno-blabber copypasta guides. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.0.148.54 (talk) 18:04, 27 February 2007 (UTC). Also his site had unauthorized roms for download anyway.

I brought it back since it's used to reference the statement. Delete either all or nothing from that trivia statement. --32X 18:53, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "Mega Drive" for Consistency?

I'm curious as to why the system is referred to as the "Mega Drive" for "consistency". It is true that the system went by this name in Japan, but this Wikipedia article is in the English Wikipedia and in English vernacular, it is referred to as the "Sega Genesis". I'm asking because I want to know if this was done because it is "cool". I think the more reasonable thing to do would be to target the article to what 98% of the English speaking world would recognize the console as. Drumpler 17:18, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Nevermind. Ignore me and move on. :) Drumpler 17:21, 25 March 2007 (UTC)