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[edit] Retro Sega
Could use some help from wikipedians building up the retrosega wiki thanks
[edit] The Portal and the Project
Hey guys its finally here! We just need members too continue it
[edit] general comments
- Please note that if somebody is going to edit the page with a major announcment such as Sega being purchased by Microsoft, it requires a citation.
No I believe they are just teaming up with Microsoft. Also, info on the recent acquisitions of Secret Level and Sports Interactive should probably be added. Maybe I'll do it later when I have time.
According to http://www.sega.com/, the first company name was Standard Games, not Service Games.
sega.com have been known to be wrong on several occasions, I'm pretty sure it was Service Games, Ill do some checking...
SEGA/Hardware needs spelling and grammar work. (I can't do it, don't know anything about this subject).
Yea, well, I didn't write it. :) Jzcool
- I didn't say you did, if there was any question about that. :-)
Ha ha, I guess I'm the guilty dog barking first (even though I'm not guilty). :=) Jzcool
Shenmue? A famous Sega franchise? It's two games that have seen incredibly limited financial success. That ain't a franchise. All other games listed have had nearly a dozen sequels. Shenmue has hope,is famous and probably will have a sequel,plus Toe Jam n' Earl only consist's as a trilogy.
- I removed: It is one of the best known and loved video game brands in the world. That's really not a fact. More of an opinion.:--Jporter07 18:57, 7 Jan 2005 (UTC)
I don't know how this could be added in, but something needs to be written regarding Sega's sale of Visual Concepts to Take Two (effectively eliminating the Sega Sports series)
- Done K1Bond007 01:29, Mar 5, 2005 (UTC)
Take Two is a continuation of Sega sports therefore it's the same I've removed the statement that Sega produced the first 3rd game in 1983. I've looked at all of Sega's games from 1983, both on http://www.klov.com and also on http://www.system16.com/sega/ and must assume that the contributor was thinking of this http://www.system16.com/sega/hrdw_vco.html . I really don't think that counts as a 3d game, insofar as it's polygon rather than sprite based.Tom k&e
- Sega claims to have developed the first 3D video game "SubRoc-3D" on their website. See http://www.sega.com/corporate/corporatehist.php?item=corporate_history K1Bond007 18:10, Mar 14, 2005 (UTC)
- They may claim it's the first 3d game, but I'm disinclined to agree as it's not polygon based, and only has sprite scaling. The SNES could do sprite scaling, yet I don't think anyone would seriously classify Mario World as a 3d game. Battlezone and Tempest are both more 3d than SubRoc and were both released in 1980.Tom k&e 10:00, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Subroc-3d is literally three-dimensional, using a technique similar to LCD shutter glasses to provide differing images to each eye. (And it was probably the only 3d game in arcades until Continental Circuit/Continental Circus.) The above-mentioned "3d" games still technically are only 2d to the player. I'm inclined to add the information back in, but appropriately noting in what sense the game was "3d" to avoid misinterpretation in the future. Student Driver 20:52, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
- They may claim it's the first 3d game, but I'm disinclined to agree as it's not polygon based, and only has sprite scaling. The SNES could do sprite scaling, yet I don't think anyone would seriously classify Mario World as a 3d game. Battlezone and Tempest are both more 3d than SubRoc and were both released in 1980.Tom k&e 10:00, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Pinball
I know that Sega published some pinball machines, but I don't know any specifics. Maybe someone can put in info on when/what they made. --magiluke 23:21, August 19, 2005 (UTC)Sega made a small amount of pinball machines and I believe they,still make pinball machines.
[edit] My lindbergh
dammit why did you change it>:( any way the first time i saw the notic "Needs Clean Up" i was totally angry but sinc is there thats cool:D it was my mistake in the first place i didn't know Sega made other arcade machines:D ><ino 09:33, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
[edit] sega nomad
sega nomad was never sold in japan, someone should correct it. Also, in the "game gear" section, there is a paragraph about the megajet. It should probably be in the "nomad" section (there is a subtitle) I Have a friend who has a nomad,I used to even know a kid who had almost all the sega consoles plus the Sega Pelican ,somehow he modified it so it got local cable!
- I've done it, but it still needs some polishing. --32X 13:44, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] The Dreamcast still in Japan?
Do they still continue to make new games for the Dreamcast in Japan?
Yes they do still make games for it, you can find them online, their are also some publishers who make Dreamcast games (In GD-ROM format) in North America. They have a treasure trove of Dreamcast games on eBAY,You might run across some at EB GAMES. Rarely yardsales have Dreamcast stuff or A actual Dreamcast,also check the goodwill or salvation army,the best thing to do is type up dreamcast on shop.My friends know a couple people who have one.
Their is also the Homebrew scene
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[edit] Pronounciation
Could someone prove, correct or disprove the pronounciation? It seems to be a bit confusing. For the moment I've removed it since even in Germany (aka "elsewhere") it's pronounced as seh-gah, not see-gah. --32X 16:03, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
- Hmm, Sonic 1 and 2 for the Mega Drive had a seh/say-gah sound on the first screen (before the title screen). Nick8325 01:06, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
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- It is pronounced see-gah in Italy. Devil Master, 01 Apr 2006, 14:33 (MET)
- This is en.wikipedia not it.wikipedia. 63.65.152.78 20:29, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
- Check the mentioned link! Devil Master just gave some information about a sentence which was in the article around that time in en.wikipedia. --32X 11:16, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
- This is en.wikipedia not it.wikipedia. 63.65.152.78 20:29, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
- It is pronounced see-gah in Italy. Devil Master, 01 Apr 2006, 14:33 (MET)
[edit] Sega in San Antonio?
I know it’s been fixed, but from source did anyone get that from? And by the way, if I remember correctly Sega dose stand for Service Games, I even have a official letter from Sega saying it back in the mid 90's I believe they are based in either texas,california or Redwood Washington like Nintendo. Yes I think they were there in the 90's
[edit] Moved from Redwood City to San Francisco in 1999
I don't know where the "Sega in San Antonio" came from. Searches on the internet didn't turn up anything. I noticed someone recently changed the page to say they moved this year (2006)... but it was correct before (1999). Here's the article talking about the move:
http://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/stories/1998/06/08/daily14.html No I don't think that's true.
[edit] Links to every territory, country, region, and city
Is there any good reason to have every single geographical location mentioned in this article linked? The profusion of links is distracting and I don't see how they help the article; I'd like to clean 'em up but don't want to tread on toes. Student Driver 05:40, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Problem with the way this page is written
I noticed that this page is written from the perspective of somebody outside North America. This is the English Wikipedia, is shouldn't be like that. For instance, it says that that Sega released the Mega Drive (Genesis in North America). It should be the other way around. It should say that Sega released the Genesis (Mega Drive outside of North America). I'm pretty sure that articles are supposed to be geared towards the majoriry who uses Wikipedia. I can't find the article that say that, though. SilentRage 19:51, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
- Since this is (as you said) the English Wikipedia it should reflect the situation like it is in England.
- Seriously, since English is not only one of the most spoken languages but the world's language for international communications, en.WP should be handled that way. Since the North American name (forgot that word) differs from the international one only because of a legal rights problem, it should be mentioned as Mega Drive in the first case. Otherwise it could be seen as a POV problem. Anyway, feel free to read (or even contribute) to the Requested Move discussion of Sega CD, I've given some points there which seem logical and NPOV to me. As mentioned there, Talk:Sega Mega Drive might give some extra clues, why "we" use the name as it is now. The status quo is more or less based on a consensus. Changing the name might result in edit wars. --32X 22:52, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
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- An argument I haven't seen made (yet) to defend the current preference for "Mega Drive" is the simple fact that the first release of the console was as the Mega Drive in Japan.
- One thing I wish was done more often (among all video game articles, not just Sega-specific) is that game releases should be noted by region and console. I see references to "NES" games that were released in Japan only, which never called the Famicom a NES; "Mega Drive" titles that were only released in North America, thus really being a "Genesis" release, etc. Using the incorrect region console names, and/or omitting the region of a title's release leads to ambiguity.Student Driver 13:59, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
- The argument came up in the "Sega Mega Drive" vs. "Sega Genesis" vs. "Sega Mega Drive/Sega Genesis" discussions. It became one of the major reasons why the name Sega Mega Drive has "won". To my surprise there were no edit wars since the latest move. --32X 09:46, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
- Perhaps you could list them both and separate with a '/'? It seems like there'd be a good compromise.. ---Xcrem 18:33, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
- There was even an article called Sega Mega Drive/Sega Genesis, but ... Anyway, the redirect still exists and I use it where it seems usefull. If only this topic would have an easy solution as the 32X' one. It has an own name in every major region but (nearly) everyone is fine with Sega 32X. \o/ --32X 09:46, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Sega PC
What occurred me is the absolute absence of any information on the division/label called Sega PC. I know it existed, because I own an PC version of Ecco the Dolphin, and have seen an PC version of Comix Zone as well.
I don't know why this isn't mentioned even here, although one would assume that Wikipedia is being made of highly informed people. I can only assume that it was never as widespread as console versions of Sega games.
If anyone knows more about it, I'd like to see a few notes on it. Alrik Fassbauer 12:27, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
I have seen a Sega PC before. It was two "computers" in one, a standard IBM clone with a Sega daughterboard inside. There are a few pages with pictures available online but I cant remember what to search for! Ciper 07:51, 16 November 2006 (UTC) ciper
- What you mean is a Teradrive or Mega PC, what Alrik means is the Sega subdivision which ported their console games to PC (like Comix Zone, Virtua Fighter, ...). --32X 09:10, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
Yes SEGA used to make home computers and software for them.
[edit] The next-gen rumor
I heard that there is a rumor going around that Sega and Apple are planing a new 7th generation home console, is this true? If it is then it should be mentioned. 211.27.43.182 01:03, 20 September 2006 (UTC) No ,if they are it is not coming out soon.
[edit] Sega of America part of Viacom?
Anyone know where the information about Viacom owning part of SEGA of America comes from? The only reference I could find was in the wiki for Viacom... unsigned comment by Captain Bonzo 22:47, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
- Wikipedia really seems to be the only place connecting Viacom and Sega of America. And no sources are given on wiki. Seems pretty fishy to me. unsigned comment by Special:Contributions/213.216.199.30 21:45, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
- I've removed it, see Talk:Viacom for more information about that topic. --32X 11:29, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
THAT IS SUCH A LIE.
[edit] Robert Deith
Removed the following from the section "1989-2001":
"Robert Deith was the Chairman of Sega Europe throughout most of this time."
I did so because it is a complete non sequitur and adds no real value to the topic. If anyone can justify putting it back in, feel free to do so. 66.41.25.143 00:25, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] 3-D game
What was the name of that short, white 3-D arcade game that Sega put out in the mid-nineties. It was live action and featured a cowboy. I think the reason it failed is because you had time reversal cubes if you got killed, and you got more by inserting quarters, but if you waited to see what hit you, you lost your quarters. --Scottandrewhutchins 06:44, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
Do you mean Time Traveler? [1] It was released in 1991. Ciper 07:58, 16 November 2006 (UTC)ciper
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- That would be Time_Traveler_(video_game) http://www.klov.com/game_detail.php?letter=T&game_id=10124 See also the only other game made for that cabinet. Holosseum
I doubt SEGA made that.
[edit] What is this SEGA cable?
I have a SEGA cable I haven't been able to identify.
It has a flat, female plug at each end with two rows of four pins on either side of a slot, with an empty space on both sides at the left end, looking into the plug.
The SEGA logo is molded into the top side of each plug. Overall length is 60"
Nothing like it is on any of the sites I've found with SEGA connector pinouts.
That might be a Saturn System Link cord. Supermagnetic 22:58, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
Looks similar to http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-k8-49-en-70-ug.html but the overmold is thinner, barely thicker than the connector, and it has two angled corners, with SEGA molded on the side with the square corners. All I've found for system link for the Saturn is that same pic on a few sites.
- Maybe a Game Gear link cable? (Btw, please sign with ~~~~, not with ----. --32X 21:00, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
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- Yup. It's for the Game Gear. The various SEGA game console pages really need more pics, espcially of the various ports and connectors.
[edit] Sega Channel
I'm talking about this edit:
- Was it really the first service of that kind? I mean, even the Atari 2600 had modems.
- "millions of subscribers all over the world" ... really?
Could someone fix the spelling/wording or -if it's biased/wrong- remove that edit completely? --32X 22:49, 18 December 2006 (UTC) Atari probably was easier to use that's why.
[edit] Regarding to Shenmue for discontinued franchise
Are you sure Shenmue is a discontinued franchise, they are making a game called Shenmue Online. I'm not sure if that rings a bell or anything, but can you clarify it thats its really discontinued? or what you mean by discontinued is the series canon itself? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sniper 99 (talk • contribs) 06:51, 24 December 2006 (UTC). You can still play Shenmue on a SEGA console at home
[edit] Sega Channel misinformation
I just changed info (read: removed misinformation) in the history section regarding Sega Channel. First: a claim that Sega Channel was the first downloadable-content game service. It wasn't. See Gameline for an Atari 2600 downloadable service from AOL's past. Also predating the Sega Channel was Intellivision PlayCable (1981-1983). Not to mention the early trial interactive-cable concepts tested from the late 60s on, including Ralph Baer/Sanders Associate's interesting merger of analog pong-style games with cable-broadcast backgrounds.
Second was the claim that Sega Channel had "millions of subscribers" all over the world. A quick look at Sega Channel shows that the peak number of subscribers was quite a bit lower-- 250,000. I therefore also removed the claims that the Sega Channel was more popular than the 32X and Sega CD; the Mega/Sega CD, at least, reached a higher market penetration-- 2-3 million in Japan, 2.5 million in N. America, 1 million in Europe... Student Driver 01:44, 31 December 2006 (UTC) SEGA channel did not fare out well,and it does not exist anymore.
[edit] Page name...
...should be Sega Corporation, the total official name. Sega is a shortening. --Chr.K. 14:35, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
- "Sega Corporation" is a specific name for the post-2000 incarnation of Sega; the generic "Sega" title is more accurate as this page reflects information of all incarnations of the company (across time and geography), of which "Sega" is the common name. Student Driver 17:56, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] YTMND vs. Sega
There has been a recent letter sent from Sega to YTMND that says they need to take down all of the Sonic websites or face legal action.
Max tells the YTMND community about this: http://ytmnd.com/news/?news_id=56
Read the full legal notice here: http://www.ytmnd.com/info/legal/sonic.pdf
Max'x legal assistant DZK has already penned up a response available here: http://ytmndsega.ytmnsfw.com/
I Deleted it in case a kid were to see it boy it was probably gonna get wiki in trouble anyway
--ROMaster2 9:47, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
I heard lots of Rumors that Nintendo bought Sega. Is it true? By AA 71.166.147.39 22:44, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Sold?
I heard lots of Rumors that Nintendo bought Sega. Is it true? By AA 71.166.147.39 22:44, 8 February 2007 (UTC) THATS A LIE
[edit] Sega of America is dead?
as i try with web browser today, www.sega.com is now auto-redirect to www.sega.co.jp with no trace of "Sega of America" anywhere, anyone knows if Sega of america is closed or not?
--219.79.161.96 15:13, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
- I don't have any problems here. Anyway, the discussion page is to discuss the article. --32X 16:07, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
SEGA is still in buiseness.
[edit] Vandelism
This page should be reverted to a form that... has... content... And either my lack of knowledge or my lack of a user account prevents me from doing so. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 74.194.29.66 (talk) 16:06, 16 March 2007 (UTC).
