Talk:Script kiddie
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The Tactics, Tools and Defense sections all all contain information that is not actually specific to script-kiddies. This stuff belongs in security articles. Oddity- 14:11, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
Would a person who uses programs made by other people not for random destruction, but for certain targets like fps game cheaters or other disturbing people be considered as a script kiddie?
Well I say: each to their own if they want to talk in text type or Leet. You do not have to read it and I don't think it is nice for you to call them wankers as well...
- I don't think anyone did, well, not yet. user:sjc
Is it just me, or does this article make being a script kiddie sound like some kind of diagnosable medical condition... Eurleif 05:23 Dec 24, 2002 (UTC)
This page is very poor - the author keeps on talking as if there has been some major study into script kiddies - "social analyses", "history suggests", but provides no info on this (link, title of a study, names...). Seems to be bullshit to me. Cgs
I rather like the author's description. Although it is cold, sometimes sounding as though it is medical in origin, it sure helped me understand what was going on. Granted, the style might serve to slughtly obfuscate things, I enjoy seeing these things from a view not clouded in pop-culture myth and urban legend.
I dont know if this has anything to do with the new "?" marks on the Veritaserum site but it is freaking me out.
"Script kiddies typically hate to be called script kiddies – which is one reason why the term has become popular, as they are frequently looked down upon by crackers." To the average American, that would look as though white people looked down on them. I reworded it. -Josh, October 10, 2005, 8:52 AM EST
Alot of script kiddies dont know they're script kiddie, they incorrectly think they're very skilled hackers. Common behaviour among script kiddies is to be cocky and packet people as soon as slightlest conflict occur.
Not everyone who uses programs made by other people are script kiddies. NMap, John the Ripper, and Ethereal are all examples of programs used by hackers (and crackers). Why reinvent the wheel? Go to defcon and I'm sure you'll find plenty of the celebrities there running programs made by other people. I'm sure they can code what they want themselves... but why waste your time reinventing the wheel?
Lots of hackers/crackers hack/crack because they're curious. The most famous example I can think of is Kevin Mitnick. He wasn't what I'd call a script kiddy... and a lot of what he did was just because of curiosity. I'm sure Linus Travold was curious about a number of things... now thanks to him we have the Linux operating system.
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Many of the things on this page confuse script kiddies with Black hat hackers! --Xer0X
Is there a relation between mIRC scripts and script kiddies?
I started hearing the term script kid in IRC (Undernet, circa 1997), so I always associated it to kids who had mIRC war scripts, who used flood attacks, channel overtake and ICMP spoofing tools. Most of them were integrated with mIRC via those war scripts.
In this article the script term seems biased to Unix scripts/exploits, which I regard as being part of the more knowledgeable and underground cracking scene...
So, what type of scripts really does the term script kid refer to?
[edit] Notes & Citations
Umm, I might be blind but where did all the notes and citations go? I click on a note but it doesn't transport me to the bottom of the page for more info... Maybe someone took it out... Just thought you'd like to know.
[edit] DoS Attacks
I removed the statement "***THIS IS NOT A DoS ATTACK!***" from the DoS Attacks, buffer overflow attack section. Primarily, because it does not comply with Wikipedia standards. Secondly, although a buffer overflow attack does not have to be a DoS attack, it can be used as one. Rossj81 12:47, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
They're not really in the same category. DoS describes something done to a network in order to degrade performance (to zero if possible), buffer overflow describes something done to a program, be it an application or an operating system component, at least to crash it but more profitably to get access rights as the program to execute one's own code. The result of exploiting a buffer overflow may well be the installation of tools to do DoS but that's an entirely secondary matter, and the tools have nothing to do with the original breaking-and-entering. Other results of breaking a program may be the installation of tools for spamming, phishing, man-in-the-middle attacks, trojans (for direct exploitation or to facilitate money laundering), proxying (for sharing files of nefarious types) etc., all for the purpose of financial gain, so DoS is by no means a natural consequence of buffer overflows. The owner of the machine thus breached may not even notice anyting until his bank account is empty or a SWAT team is entering through his windows, whereas the target of a DoS is definitely going to notice - that's the whole point of the exercise. :D Anonymous coward - 62.66.213.110 22:37, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] request for aliasing
could someone who knows how to do it please add a forwarding alias to this lemma for 'scriptkid', 'script kid', 'scriptkiddy' and 'script kiddy' Arakrys 22:10, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Subjective title
The whole article probably has bias all over the place. It says that it's a derogatory term in the first paragraph, gives a definition that usually can't be proven over the Internet, and then proceeds (in subsequent sections) to label certain people as script kiddies. Let's say I wrote an article called "Artard". Would I say that it is a derogatory term and then say what types of people are artards? Would I give examples of what artards "tend" to do? Now replace "artard" with another derogatory term. --Raijinili 17:48, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
I was wondering... Is there a slang word for a person who only knows a small amount about programming, and is just starting to make his own applications, but doesn't want to cause damage to any computer?
