Talk:Scream queen

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Contents 1 Definition of scream queen 2 List is questionable 3 Emma Watson? 4 This list is still very unclear 5 Alphabetical Order 6 This article is a scream....... 7 Rethink this whole thing

[edit] Definition of scream queen

I think a scream queen is an actress that expressed horror, in a panic way. Not just strong fear, like Jodie Foster in The Silence of the Lambs or Sigourney Weaver in Alien. Both should be maybe in the list nevertheless for Panic room and Copycat (though even in these movies the actresses act very controlled).

But I think that Linda Blair and Sissy Spacek caused horror, they did not express horror. That's why I would exclude them from the list.

--Abe Lincoln 09:31, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

That is not what a Scream Queen is at all, if it was, then that means any woman that has ever screamed on film because of something that scared them is a Scream Queen. The term refers to the actresses that have become synonymous with movies with horror aspects as the protagonists of the films, such as Jamie Lee Curtis or Janet Leigh. These two will forever be thought of in their two career defining roles, those being Laurie Strode from Halloween and Marion Crane from Psycho.

Although Sigourney Weavers most famous role is that of Ripley from the Alien series, the movies are not straight out Horror. The first in the series is, but then the sequel gave her the heroine tag which she has since been affiliated with by making her a total badass, but one driven by her fear.

When I think of Scream Queens, the names Britanny Murphy or Jessica Biel do not come to mind. I think of people like Curtis, Leigh, Fay Wray or Heather Langenkamp. Neve Campbell and Jennifer Love Hewitt could also be classed as Scream Queens because of their roles in their respective series. Sarah Michelle Gellar, whilst she has appeared in a few movies, such as Scream 2, I Know What You Did Last Summer, and most recently, the remake of The Grudge, she cannot be classed a Scream Queen because her career defining role is that of Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

This page should be totally redone, cutting all the fat and pointless-ness that has been added onto it. I mean come on, someone has added Kari Wuhrer and Scarlett Johanssen because they were in the movie 8 Legged Freaks, which was more of a comedy with a few scares that referenced giant invading insect movies from the 50's. Bridget Fonda from Lake Placid? That is the funniest horror movie I have ever freaking seen, my case in point: A man gets taken out of his boat, in the middle of a tremendously deep lake, and later on the police question it as whether it could have been a bear... A BEAR. Anna Faris from Scary Movie? Do I even need to comment on that?

Lordhart 08:43, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

I'd be interested to see information added about the origin of the term. I would suppose it originates with a journalist, perhaps in reference to Fay Wray, but exactly when, where, and with whom the phrase originated would be informative. I'm going to try to find out, but if someone else already knows, so much the better.

Schizombie 23:49, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] List is questionable

some of these actresses should not be on the list. Jo Beth Williams? Joan Collins? Dee Wallace Stone? Just because they appeared in one or 2 horror films shouldn't make them Scream Queens... N. Campbell in Scream, Jamie Lee Curtis and Linda Blair I totally understand. Mimi Van Doren?

[edit] Emma Watson?

I do not want to get into a Lame Edit War over it, but I will once again remove Emma Watson from this list. She, along with several others on the list, is not a scream queen. She is a heroine. She does not faint with terror, she does not wilt in the face of tragedy. The Harry Potter series is not a horror series. Her name does not belong. This will be the second time I have removed the name. Her name is being added in by someone who is doing it anonymously. Am I wrong here? let me know! (comment by Fatmacman)

I added a bit to the article lead based on other suggestions above, which may help clarify this kind of question. Jonathunder 01:51, 2005 September 7 (UTC)

[edit] This list is still very unclear

Why would Jennifer Lopez be a scream queen because she appeared in one movie with a monster? Was it even a horror movie or more of an action movie? Also, Sissy Spacek was the monster in Carrie, not the victim. This list is lame, IMO Steve-O 06:22, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Alphabetical Order

I have put the following into the page so that it is only seen when someone attempts to edit the page:

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I put it here becuase it took me ages to clean-up this page (when it was tagged) when I was not a registered user. And in my point of view it is hellish to clean up such a large list.

Thanks --Kilo-Lima 20:44, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

I'm going to be going through and taking out alot of erroneous names from the list so that it is much smaller and more accurate, so it should be easier in future to keep it in order. Annoying that people have just thrown anyone in, without thought.

Lordhart 13:28, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] This article is a scream.......

As far as I was aware the 'scream queens' were the not-terribly-talented-but-good-looking actresses (such as Brinke Stevens etc) who appeared in low budget slasher movies of the 80's and 90's. That's the context in which the phrase was first coined. It was a genre thing: like 'porn stars'. Including Fay Wray and mainstream actresses in the list is stretching it a bit....One gets the impression that whoever wrote this article has absolutely no idea what he/she is talking about....Colin4C 19:46, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rethink this whole thing

Here here. By the peculiar and conflicting defnitions you guys cite (up there), Barbara Steele wouldn't be a "Scream Queen," because she played a heavy. WTF? It is a new term-- new, post HALLOWEEN-- and, no, Fay Wray wasn't called a "Scream Queen" back then, nor was Evelyn Ankers, Phyllis Coates, Gloria Talbott or anybody else, as far as I know. I've been a journalist for 25 years and I know film history: it's a post-1978 phrase. It really encompasses any actress who's made a name for herself in genre films or, as someone wrote in the opening paragraph, made maybe ONE defining movie and remains associated with it. And nowadays, it's a pretty meaningless phrase, to boot. Ted Newsom 08:11, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

barbara steele and ingridd pitt were certainly called scream queens and they were making films well before 1978. so your rewrite suggests she was never a scream queen. WTF?

The term didn't exist then, nor were they publicized during their active careers as "scream queens." Steele essentially retired from acting after about 1977; Pitt's brief period of visibility in the genre was between 1970 and 1975. The may well be called "Scream Queens" now, but nobody used the term then. And by the previous (wacky) definition on previous versions of this thread, Barbara Steele wouldn't have classified, since she wasn't a screaming victim (which doesn't make a whole lot of sense). Ted Newsom 71.109.239.226 16:54, 23 February 2007 (UTC)