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[edit] Edit Summary Request

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[edit] Michael Patrick Hearn

Hi SAW: edited your article on MPH, for point of view, but added a verify tag because your article lacks sources. Cheers. V. Joe 00:18, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your edit to Homeric Question

Please stop characterizing my edits as vandalism. You're free to disagree with my edits, but they are not done in bad faith. --Akhilleus (talk) 16:45, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Signatures on articles

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[edit] Michael Nyman

Hello. I have been working on the Opera Project, which includes The opera corpus, a list of important opera composers and their major works. Discovering that all Wikipedia references to Nyman's "Man Who..." opera pointed to the page for Sachs's book, where the opera is mentioned briefly but not described in any way, I decided that the opera deserves a page of its own, as do all the operas in the Corpus, and as has been done for lots of operas based on books, plays, poems, etc. You will see that there are currently a lot of red-linked operas in the Corpus. Some of us are working our way through these, creating stubs and/or articles. In preparation for a "Man Who... (opera)" article, I have relinked all WP links to the book that ought to have been linked to the opera, and made other concomitant changes. I hope this explanation will help you to see why I am not very happy with your reversion of my amendment to the Nyman article. --GuillaumeTell 16:51, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Timon / Alcibiades' reconciliation

Hello! Nice to see your edits on Timon of Athens. However, I hope you will consider leaving in the phrase about Alciabiades' reconciliation with Athens. It explains what the bit about the glove is about; otherwise the article is just cryptic. Also, the contrast between Alcibiades' reconciliation, when he was far more wronged than Timon ever was, and Timon's rather nutty bitterness, is instructive ... and perhaps the point of this rather odd play. rewinn 04:33, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Hiya! The box labels are the easy part. In my user page (or that of anyone you want to copy from) just edit the page, then copy the stuff between {{Boxboxtop|Info}} and {{Boxboxbottom}} and delete the stuff you don't want. Then add to your collection any individual boxes you like; they're normally something like {User Kleptobox}} . There's an official way to make more ub's but you can create your own on the fly with this formula: {{userbox|#AABBAA|#DDEEDD|[[Image:MagrittePipe.jpg|42px]]|Ceci n'est pas une [[WP:UBX | User Box]].}} It's good silly fun! Some user boxes of the official sort will add stuff to your watchlist. Enjoy! rewinn 04:44, 15 July 2006 (UTC)


About the glove and reconciliation: when the Senators fail to get Timon to come back to Athens to help deal with Alciabiades (he offers them his last tree with which to hang themselves) they are reduced to haggling with A: " All have not offended: For those that were, it is not square to take On those that are, Revenge ... With those that haue offended, like a Shepheard, Approach the Fold, and cull th' infected forth, But kill not altogether"

With these words, they are asking him for a sign that he will wreak revenge only on those who did him wrong -- suggesting his glove as a sign (I don't know why).

Alcibiades does offer his glove as a sign of (relative) peace; his revenge is not on Athens but on a few individuals who the Senators shall choose themselves (!):

"Then there's my Glove, Defend and open your uncharged Ports, Those Enemies of Timons, and mine owne Whom you your selves shall set out for reproofe, Fall and no more"

.... and pledges that his army will obey Athens' laws (although I don't see whether this includes the objects of his revenge):

"and to attone your feares With my more Noble meaning, not a man Shall passe his quarter, or offend the streame Of Regular Justice in your Citties bounds, But shall be remedied to your publique Lawes At heaviest answer."

This text leads me to think that the bit with the glove is not throwing down the gauntlet, as we think of it, as a sign of challenge, but somehow a sign of accepting the terms of reconciliation. At the end of the play, as in history, Alcibiades returns from Sparta to Athens (...although he later must flee after more shenanigans, but this isn't really an history.) rewinn 04:57, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mildred Harris

Mildred Harris indeed played Dorothy Gale in 1914's The Patchwork Girl of Oz. ExRat 20:55, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Scottandrewhutchins, Thanks for taking the time to write to me about Harris' Oz connection to the Dorothy Gale character. I am rather confused about the whole thing however - I have not seen The Patchwork Girl of Oz, but when researching the article I created for Harris, I did look at a variety of reputable sites that list Harris as making a brief cameo in the film as Dorothy. Most prominently are The New York Times movie section [1], which states:
"Mildred Harris, later the wife of Charlie Chaplin, appears briefly as Dorothy, while future comedy star Harold Lloyd can be briefly spotted as an extra."
Also, the AFI Silent Film Catalog [2] lists Harris as playing the role of Dorothy.
Although, I did then find this - Scott Hutchins' Oz Filmography [3] (is this you?) which states that Harris didn't appear in the film, neither did the character of Dorothy Gale.
I apologize for my lack of knowledge on the film and Harris' role (or lack of) in the cast. I guess it's probable that Harris' involvement has simply become "Hollywood lore". Thanks for the clarification. ExRat 18:14, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Emmet Fox

Your comment about Emment Fox's death is not supported by a citation. Please provide a credible source for your assertion that Fox was murdered and the nature of his assailant, and I will not revert your posting again. Until then, I have set it back to eliminate your unsupported allegation. David Traver 21:16, 17 July 2006 (UTC). Often rumors come from people in positions of authority. I suspect it should be possible to find a printed biography of Fox that would answer the question for you and provide a basis for reliably expanding the article. David Traver 13:53, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Land of Oz

Is there a Wikipedia article for the Land of Oz theme park in the North Carolina mountains? If not, why not make one? Isn't it defunct now? Badagnani 05:13, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks; I first became aware of the park via the Alan Lomax documentary film about Appalachian music and culture, which features elderly locals complaining about all the pristine land the park was ruining. I guess they got the last laugh in a way, but the land still isn't the way it used to be. Badagnani 17:43, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Political Compass Userbox

How do yo make it display anything but complete neutrality? Scottandrewhutchins 18:06, 24 July 2006 (UTC)Scottandrewhutchins

It's fixed. If you go to User:Disavian/Userboxes or User:Disavian/Userboxes/Political, you'll see the examples there with the listing. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 06:04, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bot Complaint

You just made the following statement: I don't appreciate having my userboxes altered. That is vandalism. Scottandrewhutchins 18:56, 28 July 2006 (UTC)Scottandrewhutchins

It's not vandalism. There was nothing malicious or deceptive in my changes. I userfied your boxes to comply with WP:GUS. Basically, it kept you from having your userboxes deleted. If you revert my changes, you'll find that the userbox has either been replaced or deleted. WP:GUS, coincidentally, is the solution by Jimbo Wales, the founder and director of wikipedia. Please respond on my talk page. αChimp laudare 19:44, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Signing stuff

I'm not sure what happened, but some signatures of yours look all weird. Do you sign AFD and HD comments with four tildes? - Mgm|(talk) 23:31, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

  • That's it. The four tildes already add your username, so you don't have to write it behind the tildes again. - Mgm|(talk) 05:44, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Worm Quartet

I saw that you've done some work on the Dr. Demento article. I thought you may be a better authority than I to speak on the Worm Quartet AfD. PT (s-s-s-s) 21:21, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Message copied from the Opera Project

Thank you and welcome to the Opera Project - the most dynamic arts project on WP!

I see you have added Winnie Böwe and Hilary Summers to the 'Can you help?' section. I wonder why you think these two merit articles and listing alongside some very famous artists? - Kleinzach 12:38, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. We encourage people to write about little-known singers if they think they are notable or becoming notable, but the 'Can you helps?' section is really for major artists who for some reason or other still don't have articles, so if you don't mind I think we should delete these two names and leave the articles to you. Is that OK? - Kleinzach 13:09, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Oz project

hey there! it seems you've been contributing a lot to the Oz project and that most people who used to contribute are either taking breaks from it or lost interest. Just wanted to say hi and let you know i've joined the project to work on the literary accuracy in plot summaries and character descriptions and to also hlp with some of the horrible navigation were stuck with right now. you seem to have the filmography side covered, so maybe it would be a good idea for you to categorize us appropriately within those wikiprojects as well, ttyl! Zappernapper 22:59, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Edit in the Charun article

On 3 June 2006, you add this to Charun: "Similar to Charon, he is the Estruscan equivalent, at least in terms of function, and was superceded by him when the Trojans came to Italy."

Specify source. Charun is merely a Greek loan. Trojans never came to Italy; the "Tyrrhenoi" did (aka "Etruscans", not Trojans). (See Herodotus, Histories I.94 for the direct source.) Different peoples with different names. Are you confused? --Glengordon01 09:45, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

The details may be more inspired by the Aeneid than by history, but Charon is a Greek loan, while Charun is a substantially different figure of similar function that was replaced with the Gree Charon subsequent to Greek influence. The description and vehavior of Charun seem to me different enough to warrant a separate entry, even if my historical facts are wrong. Scottandrewhutchins

Yes, I understand, but where in the Aeneid? Quote? If you can't justify your claim with a source, give up. --Glengordon01 05:57, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

I didn't say Charun was mentioned in the Aeneid. I meant the Aeneid says that the Roman figures come to Italy via the Trojans. I don't have access to the source of the claims about horses or the bashing of souls with a hammer, but I believed they are derived from one of two books by Jeff Rovin, either The Fantasy Encyclopedia or The Encyclopedia of Monsters. Please see Wikipedia definitions of vandalism before you accuse me of it again. Scottandrewhutchins 15:14, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

The Fantasy Encyclopedia and The Encyclopedia of Monsters?? This proves you have low reading standards. If you can't separate "proven fact" from "fantasy" or "science" from "science fiction", you have no business editing. I suggest you follow the link on Wiki vandalism and actually *read* what it says instead of daydreaming about monsters:

There are four generally acknowledged types of vandalism: deletion of legitimate information, insertion of nonsense or irrelevant content, addition of unwanted commercial links (spam), and policy violations specific to that wiki.

Yours would be vandalism because of insertion of nonsense. Charun bonking the deceased with a hammer is a clear example of nonsense. Grow up and read labrys if you're truly interested in facts about Charun's "hammer". --Glengordon01 15:43, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

It's not insertion of nonsense. It is derived from a published book. You can disagree if you so choose, but it is not correct to classify it as vanadalism. Scottandrewhutchins 18:14, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

You have one undocumented claim that Charun wielded a labrys rather than a hammer. I'm so impressed. Rovin said that Charun carries either a hammer or an axe depending on the source. Scottandrewhutchins 18:16, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

I hardly care whether you're impressed. Stating that the hammer is a labrys or labrys derivative is based on historical facts. Hardly outlandish. Claiming that Charun clubs people with a religious symbol based on the word of a sci-fi writer however proves you're a lunatic and a vandal. "Sourced" doesn't mean "based on just any cockamamey book". --Glengordon01 18:35, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Oh, and as for a source. Take a hard lookey at something from Robert S. P. Beekes The Origin of the Etruscans, my neophyte friend:

The double axe. On a smaller issue Versnel concludes (p. 299): ‘When this bipennis [‘double axe’], property of ‘Zeus Bakchos’, carried as symbol of sacred power by Lydian kings, is encountered again as the symbol of the royal authority of the Etruscan kings, particularly of the supreme king of the federation of cities, this may be considered an important indication of the Asia Minor origin of the entire underlying ideology, and of the ceremony of investiture in which the bipennis played a part.’
These conclusions are of primary importance, as they concern a deeprooted complex of religious views that cannot have been taken over from elsewhere. (p.31-32)

Note he's quoting Versnel who says the same damn thing that I'm trying to get through to you. You could have googled that yourself if you weren't so lazy and prone to fantasy books. And in case you're wondering, Beekes is an important scholar particularly of Indo-European linguistics, not a sci-fi writer. So crawl back to the hole you came from, buddy, or learn how to research for yourself. --Glengordon01 19:11, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

The quote says nothing about Charun, and you're resorting to personal attacks, which is another violation of Wikipedia policy. Scottandrewhutchins 22:26, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Have you read this book? http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0838750613/sr=8-1/qid=1155422077/ref=sr_1_1/102-3030524-8738536?ie=UTF8 Scottandrewhutchins 22:36, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Can't you understand what "academic source" means? Nobody knows who Ronnie H. Terpeling is. Is he a recognized scholar? Never heard of him. Robert S. P. Beekes on the other is a famous linguist and that article that you refuse to read is expounding upon the labrys symbolism, identical to that in the Charun imagery. Can't understand? Too bad. Them's facts.

Claiming that "Charun smashes people's souls with a hammer" is as lunatic as saying "Jesus smashes people's souls with his cross in heaven". If you find that insulting, I equally find your twisted understanding of ancient religions insulting. End of discussion. Goodbye, goodbye, goodbye. Please, get lost. --Glengordon01 23:16, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

VANDALISM. CONSTANT VANDALISM. Stop editing in your narrow POV into Charun. Your sources are science fiction. Stop it! --Glengordon01 20:29, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Moved a comment you left on a userpage

Hi, Scottandrewhutchins - I just wanted to let you know that I moved a comment you left on Glengordon01's userpage to his talk page. He's more likely to see it there (since he'll get a notification of a new message), and it's more in line with wikietiquette. Thanks! - Tapir Terrific 18:11, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Re: your message: No problem! It's an easy mistake to make. Also, I noticed you put some of my userboxes on your page - cool! Do you want them to say "this tapir," though, or "this user"? It's easy to change, and I'd be happy to give you a hand. - Tapir Terrific 18:23, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
Re: your other message: Yeah, that's what always happens to me when I go to the zoo - most people think they're anteaters (and one baby who was just learning to talk thought they were ducks). Anyway, I'll create some userboxes for you that say "user" instead of "tapir." - Tapir Terrific 18:28, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
You've got new and improved userboxes now. - Tapir Terrific 18:36, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Calamari

You are pompous to characterize my contribution as vandalism and nonsense. More than half of Wikipedia could be considered nonsense by someone! If slang terms like Muffin Tops, Whale Tales and others care included in Wikipedia, what makes this onoe Nonsense. Your deletion of my contribution is more akin to vandalism and suppression of liberty!

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[edit] Your edit to Phoenix Theatre

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[edit] Your edit to Edward Wagenknecht

Edward Wagenknecht didn't write, heavily or otherwise, about Spike Lee. Your edit was a harmless joke but really doesn't help much in building an encyclopedia. Please heed the warnings already posted on your talk page and try to make more constructive edits. Thanks. Casey Abell 15:47, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Where exactly in Wagenknecht's works did he write about Spike Lee? If you can provide citations to books or articles by Wagenknecht where he writes about Lee, I'll gladly apologize and restore your comment. Casey Abell 16:01, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Religion userboxes

You wrote... Since you appear to have taken over the religion user boxes, could you add my Unity Church userbox to your page. Also, the no body mofication one, since the whole beliefs page is gone. I want people t see they exist, since my user page probably isn't seeing much traffic.Scottandrewhutchins 17:27, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

I haven't taken over anything. I'm just helping implement WP:GUS. Feel free to include boxes to any of the directories listed at User:Rfrisbie/Userboxes. Rfrisbietalk 17:32, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism

Welcome to Wikipedia. We invite everyone to contribute constructively to our encyclopedia. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing. However, unconstructive edits, such as those you made to Charun, are considered vandalism. If you continue in this manner you may be blocked from editing without further warning. Please stop, and consider improving rather than damaging the hard work of others. Thanks.

More vandalism on the French wikipedia perchance? Are you the illusive and conveniently anonymous "Discussion Utilisateur:24.168.35.44" by chance? Seems kinda coincidental that an edit war is starting in two languages on the same obscure topic of Charun. On the same dumb issue too. Odder still is how this IP can be traced to a server located in Herndon, VA... an American server, right by you. But far be it from me to connect the dots. --Glengordon01 18:27, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Another IP address: 66.9.70.2... concidentally from the United States. Either there is a rash of generous Americans contributing to the French Wikipedia lately on the topic of Charun, or more likely, a single American with a mediochre understanding of French and an unhealthy obsession for sexy people named Glen :) is trying to bug me personally. Please, if you're going to join the French Wikipedia, do it nicely and with respect for cultures other than your own. --Glengordon01 22:57, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Your characterization of my edits as "vandalism" is an out-and-out lie. --Scottandrewhutchins 22:20, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Use previews

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[edit] New userboxes

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[edit] Vanth vandalism

Welcome to Wikipedia. We invite everyone to contribute constructively to our encyclopedia. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing. However, unconstructive edits, such as those you made to Vanth, are considered vandalism. If you continue in this manner you may be blocked from editing without further warning. Please stop, and consider improving rather than damaging the hard work of others. Thanks. Glengordon01 01:45, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

You undermine your image and cause when you introduce sourceless nonsense of your own (the silly stuff is in bold):

She "assisted ill people on their deathbeds[citation needed] and inhaled good demons[citation needed]"

--Glengordon01 01:45, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Your characterization of my edits as "nonsense" is an out-and-out lie. --Scottandrewhutchins 22:19, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Gremlins

I've explained several times in edit summaries why I've removed them, and yet you persist, which is beginning to be disruptive and essentially vandalism. Your source does not back up the Gremlins connection, except for a message board, which does not qualify as a reliable source. CanadianCaesar Et tu, Brute? 21:56, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia. We invite everyone to contribute constructively to our encyclopedia. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing. However, unconstructive edits are considered vandalism, and if you continue in this manner you may be blocked from editing without further warning. Please stop, and consider improving rather than damaging the work of others. Thank you. CanadianCaesar Et tu, Brute? 22:03, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

  1. Do not add nonsense to wikipedia.
  2. Do not continue to revert (see WP:3RR)
  3. If you've got a reason for your additions, explain it ont he talk page of the article.

If you reinsert again you will be blocked. --Doc 22:13, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Your characterization of my edits as "nonsense" is an out-and-out lie. --Scottandrewhutchins 22:19, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

OK, maybe they aren't. Sorry, bad choice of words. I don't know, and I don't case about the details. But on wikipedia we discuss such things and we try to convince others - we don't just keep reverting to our prefered version. You were warned. I'm blocking you for 24 hours per WP:3RR. --Doc 22:26, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

 You have been temporarily blocked for violation of the three-revert rule. Please feel free to return after the block expires, but also please make an effort to discuss your changes further in the future.

--Doc 22:26, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Start again

OK, your edits are not vandalism, although it maybe that they aren't good. I'm not getting involved in the content of the article. I'm going to reduce your WP:3RR block from 24 to 2 hours. When it expires, feel free to continuer discussion on the talk page. But do not reinsert the material, unless you can convince other editors of your case. Make your suggestions on the talk page, ask for comments, and wait until some new voices give their views. Abide by the consensus of the discussion. OK. --Doc 23:09, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Why am I still blocked? 2 hours has proven to be more than 12 thus far. --Scottandrewhutchins 11:37, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
I did reduce your account block to 2 hours, however you have tried to edit while blocked, and that has tripped at 24 hour autoblocker on your IP. I have now removed it. Please assume good faith. In reply to your e-mail, he reason I didn't respond to your e-mail sooner was not because I am ' a liar' but because I was asleep during the night. THanks. --Doc 12:18, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
PS, if you call anyone else a liar, I will block you again. We assume good faith - consider that those you disagree with miht just be wrong, in error, mistake, or hold a different opinion to you. Thanks. --Doc 12:20, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Survival of St. Joan

Hi, I noticed your name as the creator of this article and would like your advice: at the featured list Cultural depictions of Joan of Arc this is classified as an opera rather than as popular music. "Rock opera" is a broad term: would you call this closer to Verdi or Elton John? High culture and popular music appear under different sections on the list. Would appreciate your expert opinion. Durova 08:52, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Preview

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[edit] Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Glengordon01

I've started a request for comment that you may want to participate in. Regards, Durova 01:52, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Concern

User:Glengordon01 brought this to my attention:[4]. I have already asked you twice at Talk:Charun to interact in a more polite manner and am very disappointed to see that you posted this so recently. This works against the spirit of dispute resolution and if it continues you may find yourself the subject of a user conduct RfC or an administrative block. Durova 23:45, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Would you refactor your comment at the talk page on the RFC? I agree there's nothing abnormal about 50 edits in a day when you're preparing an article for GA nomination. This RFC isn't about your behavior so you don't have to respond to his accusations. I responded only because he questioned my qualification for opening the RFC. Your comment that User:Glengordon01 might be mentally unbalanced looks more likely to provoke further hostility than to resolve the problem. Durova 17:51, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Petty ego-boosting on others' talk pages

I've reverted your ego from my talk page. If I could block you from it, I definitely would in a heartbeat:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Glengordon01&diff=77319911&oldid=77257978

You: Avid interest in children's toys and hollywood films
Me: Avid 15-year interest in comparative linguistics, studying the Etruscan language for a couple of years.

Who knows better about Etruscan civilization? This is not your forté. Your arrogance knows no bounds. A person who is deluded enough to believe that they can string along out-of-context quotes and yet have a grasp of a subject in a matter of weeks is not worth talking to. It fools Wikipedia; it doesn't fool me. So I doubt your capacity to discuss Charun on a higher level, with a level of maturity necessary to treat the subject fairly.

Others have noticed your article is heavily POV [5] and rightly tacked "citations needed" on almost every ludicrous sentence of yours in this article.

But you honestly think that referencing the article to death with sci-fi authors is going to make it any less POV.

Improvements on the page? Oh yes. Here is your wonderful list of references that remain on the article:

Alice K. Turner: Author of the pornographic trash hit Playboy book of science fiction. Good call. Your level of research is impeccable.

Jeff Rovin: Author of 500 Hilarious Jokes for Kids. Quoting authors of children's materials shows a high level of sophistication on your part. We're all proud of you.

But... do you quote real Etruscanologists like Massimo Pallottino or Larissa Bonfante. Nope, because that would smash all of your amateur idées fixes on the subject you plague.

So what still don't you understand? I've been ever so clear, Scotty. --Glengordon01 07:50, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

PS, while Wikipedia may not get it, you for one prove that original research can be done by cherrypicking out-of-context quotes from authors. This is precisely what your tactic has been.

So when you quote a professional like Nancy de Grummond who knows the subject better than any of your other has-been sci-fi authors, you quote her only as an afterthought on minor things. Clever ploy but not sensible research. --Glengordon01 07:57, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

It's hardly an afterthought when she is the principal source. You're still dmeonstrating that you don't understand Wikipedia policy. You also refuse to acknowledge that I've been studying mythology avidly since I was in elementary shcool. You're also continuing to be uncivil. You're still failing to understand that I CAN'T quote the two you cited unless they are talking about Charun, otherwise I violate WP:NOR. If they say something about Charun, I can get the books out of the library and quite them. --Scottandrewhutchins 16:32, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

You can certainly quote Etruscanologists if you do your homework and look for references. I've told you about Larissa Bonfante whose view I share despite your own violations of WP:Civility. Thankfully, you finally added them. "[...]I've been studying mythology avidly since I was in elementary shcool"... It's spelled "school". --Glengordon01 01:17, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

I am well aware of the spelling of "school", but I'm not a professional typist and sometimes letters get transposed due to manual, but never mental, errors. --Scottandrewhutchins 10:37, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Notability fights

Finally! Someone who supports me. I am not familiar enough with how these "requirements" are made even though Wikipedia finds them "contestable". How do we go about changing these requirements?

There's all this going on, but it seems like just a bunch of people shouting at each other and not actally a constructive way to get things done. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Notability In Defense of the Artist 21:08, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Oh, and I was going to say...I saw your addition to The Frogs, but the production team links aren't correct: the playwright has no bio, the composer's bio is about to be deleted, and the director's link goes to a disambig page that doesn't mention her. In Defense of the Artist 06:13, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Your edit to Barry Lyndon

Hello Scottandrewhutchins. I am sorry to bother you but I was wondering if you have a source for your edit about Mr Rosenman and the music for Kubrick's film, Barry Lyndon, that you recently amde. I have had to add the citation needed tag for now. You don't need to respond to me but if you have the source for this info you can either create a footnote, start a reference section just above the external links part of the page, or cite your source on the discussion page for the film. If, before you click on SAVE PAGE, you cite the source in the edit summary line that works too, but it is too late to do that for this edit. I appreciate your edit but if a source isn't cited any wikipedian can come along and remove the entry so please help if you can. Cheers. MarnetteD | Talk 19:31, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your edit to George W. Bush

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[edit] Probe Ministries

I read your question on the WP:WEASEL talk page, and I would encourage you to read my response here:[[6]]Cbuhl79 15:34, 26 October 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Thanks for your work on Leonard Kastle

You've done an amazing job. I was a student of his and sang in performances of excerpts from two of his operas. I have always een amazed that he is not more widely known and praised. Lisapollison 07:48, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your comments to me on my Talkpage. Leonard is in fact a Gay man as you may have gathered and he is VERY open about it. It nearly cost him his job at SUNYA in the 1980s when he was forced to file a very high profile palimony suit against his ex-lover of over 20 years (name escapes me, I recall he was a producer of William F. Buckely's PBS show and produced The Honeymoon Killers). As I recall, the suit was necessary to disentangle the rights to some of his musical works including a sublime musical called The Birdwatchers. If you were to search the Albany Times Union Newspaper on his name and the word Palimony, the cites would come up. I personally led a "Sing-In" in the music building to try and save his job. we had about 300 students show up which wasn't ad considering the AIDS hysteria of the times. He was let go briefly but rehired with new administration of his dept. Perhpas not let go so much as simply not scheduled for any classes, I forget. All that matters is, he was welcomed back with enthusiasm. The scuttlebutt was that he was despised y the former admins because of his enormous popularity with students and the fact that he held no Phd. Leonard's talent and gentle nature have always won out in the end and seen to it that he is appreciated within his own community. The City of Albany funded some of his later works and he's now firmly established at SUNYA. I have his address but sadly, haven't spoken to him in a decade. I should call him. He calls me Leeza for some reason! I would very much like for you to get a copy of the performance recordings of Mother Ann, The excerpts from the Pariahs and the main songs from the Birdwatchers. I believe based on your observations in the article that you would enjoy them immensely and appreciate their lasting beauty. Perhaps I can help get copies to you.Lisapollison 10:21, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Twyla Tharp

Bienvenidos, Scottandrewhutchins ~ I am dropping by to let you know that I slightly expanded and completely formatted the article on our beloved Twyla Tharp, which I noticed you made considerable additions to. I also added a photograph, and placed all the information in a chronological order that will hopefull help readers with understanding it. If you'd like to take a look, I would more than appreciate it. Thank you! Sincerely, Emmegan 01:11, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your recent edits

For the second time, your attempt to add jingoism to the George W. Bush article has been reverted. Please keep in mind Wikipedia's policies of neutral point of view, no original research and verifiability. Your edit violates all three. We appreciate your other contributions; however, this one could be considered vandalism. -- AuburnPilottalk 01:38, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

I read the article back when you first added it to the George W. Bush article. It is not a matter of whether you or I believe it fits (which incidentally I don't), it's a matter of verifiability pertaining to a WP:BIO. Our interpretation of Bush's actions constitute original research and cannot be included. I apologize if my wording was blunt, but to insert jingoism into the article is really stretching things. I suggest you take the suggestion to the Talk:George W. Bush page before reinserting. Discussion is always beneficial when making controversial edits. -- AuburnPilottalk 01:56, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Tuna Helpers

This was deleted because it did not assert notability. See Wikipedia:Notability (music) for guidelines for musicians/bands. Just because something is redlinked does not mean it has to have an article. Thank you, Fang Aili talk 17:20, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Re: your question, see the link above. --Fang Aili talk 18:46, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] My Pocket Characters

You were right. My error was done in both ignorance and good faith. You have my most sincere apologies. NielsenGW 20:14, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wizard of Oz

Hi there, I have recently revisited my childhood and have DL'd all of the Oz books in their entirity to re-read. I've always been a huge fan of these books. :]

I noticed on the project page that you mentioned you're a part of some newsletters and groups who I presume, discuss the books? I would love some information on these groups and their web pages if possible!

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[edit] Eva Green - Composer?

Hello, sorry to bother you. If I interpreted the discussion page of the Eva Green article correctly, you included in the article a reference to her being a composer. The article also says that she composed the score to the film The Dreamers. I find this information very interesting and would like to find out more on the subject, but I have not been able to locate another source that mentions it. I am sure that you were correct in including these facts in the article, I am simply at a loss for further information. Therefore, since I would imagine you know where the information came from, it would be a great help if you could tell me where I might find out more about it. It would also be very helpful if you could reply on my talk page so that I know when you have replied. I also have much less entries on my talk page, so your reply will be easier to locate if you put it there. Thank you very much, and I apologize for any bother this may cause you.

Europus 05:28, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Okay, thanks anyway. I guess I'll just have to search harder to find out more. Thank you for your time, and have nice day.

Europus 00:51, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Timon of ___

Thanks for the kind words! ;) I agree that the Timon thing is far from settled, and I would not be surprised if Shakespeare's dabblings in the classics led to a conflation. Jokestress 23:04, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Documentary film mistake

Why did you insert words like "poop" on the page? That doesn't seem like you. --Scottandrewhutchins 19:44, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Woops. I reverted some edits back to the wrong version. --Jeremy Butler 16:39, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Oz Template

Hello. I'd like to ask you two questions about Template:Oz. One: do you think the 1933 cartoon, The Wizard of Oz, is worth including there? Two: about that heading, "the feature film adaptations" - I thought a feature film ran 40 minutes or four reels. Clearly, some of the 1910s adaptations don't fit that bill, so might another heading not be more appropriate? Biruitorul 04:42, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

OK, I've made the changes. Biruitorul 05:18, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] User Boxes Format Hint

Hi Scottandrewhutchins (also from Indy),

I stole a technique from someone else which allows you to format User Boxes into perfect columns:

== User Boxes ==

The VandalProof lock Warning to Vandals: This user is armed with VandalProof.


A, B and C This user prefers not to use the serial comma.
US This user uses American English.

(View source to see "code.")

This might not be important to you, but it reduced the length of my page to be manageable. If you put three vertical bar between the hyphens, then you get three columns. See User:lmcelhiney for an example.

Take care,

Larry

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[edit] Your edit to Kate Musker

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[edit] Artificial Limbs

Hello, I just recently wrote my first complete article on Wikipedia artificial limbs and saw that you had done a large amount of work in other medical areas. Could you take a look at my article and give me some pointers about improving the article and make any changes yourself? Thanks: Nfk17 02:30, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] User Category for Discussion

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[edit] Earl Zea

I'm alerting you to the fact that I've nominated the article on Earl Zea for speedy deletion. I can see nothing that makes him notable enough to have an article in the encyclopedia. There are directions on the speedy delete template for you to contest this. AniMate 04:54, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry the article was deleted before you had a chance to edit it. However, you can go to WP:DRV (deletion review) and list the article for review. If you think the article is worth keeping and is actual encyclopedic content, that's the best way to get it undeleted. Personally, I don't know why you would, as I'm pretty sure he's not notable and the page pretty much existed for the purpose of putting an unbelievable sad and embarrassing incident in his life out there for ridicule. Best of luck. AniMate 22:22, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Etruscan mythology - Your attempts to start wars, interfere with debate and violate WP:LIBEL

Evidence: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Etruscan_mythology&diff=111843351&oldid=111797626

Any personal attacks against me clearly have no bearing on Etruscan mythology. Therefore it does not belong on that page. Using these irrelevancies for your own personal interests is vandalism and violates WP:LIBEL which reads:

  • "It is Wikipedia policy to delete libellous material when it has been identified."

Do not start wars and interfere with the deletion. As a self-described "unproduced playwright", your sense of priorities in life is telling. --Glengordon01 18:59, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Oz

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[edit] Elbow Witch

Hi. I see you began the article on Elbow Witch, and the only decent online reference I could find was a Google cache of your mypages site. It looks like your info came from one of William Jone's collected texts? Do you happen to know which one or have a citation for it? Thanks --Miskwito 08:13, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Template:Christianity

Please don't add groups which don't have demonstrable importance when considered in the light of the global history of Christianity over the last 2,000 years (not just the English speaking world over the last 200 years) -- that's how the last big argument on the Template_talk:Christianity page started. I propose the "Nestorian test" -- if they're not more important than Nestorians in the overall global history of Christianity, they probably shouldn't be included.... AnonMoos 21:20, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Unfortunately, considering that the number of Christians in the world is now about 2 billion, having 2 million adherents doesn't necessarily make a group important enough over the scope of the global Christianity of the last 2,000 years to have a separate link on the Christianity template, when less than 20 individual faith traditions or groups are mentioned there. The relatively small number of current adherents wouldn't necessarily be a stumbling block to inclusion if the group had an unbroken continuous tradition of many centuries' standing, or a broad significant influence on many other Chrsitian groups, or a worldwide presence in a large number of countries in the world, but I'm scanning down the Unity Church article and not seeing that.
The real test is, is the Unity Church more important than the Nestorian churches in the global history of Christianity over the last 2,000 years (not just the English speaking world over the last 200 years)? AnonMoos 22:04, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
There isn't and can't be any simple numerical cut-off point, but the total number of current adherents is one factor among many which should taken into account -- including a presence in many regions and countries of the world, significant public prominence, general theological influence on other Christian denominations/churches, a continuous tradition dating back many centuries, and/or broad historical significance in the overall history of Christianity over 2,000 years. On the first three measures, the Unity Church seems to fall significantly short of the JWs, and on the last two it seems to fall significantly short of the Nestorians -- who were the only meaningful Christian presence over large swaths of Asia for many centuries.
I'm sure there are many fine upstanding pious individuals among the members of the Unity Church, but when you raise the issue of including it on the Christianity template, you're thereby putting it in direct competition for template space with all Christian groups which have existed over the last 2,000 years, and the main criterion is the group's importance in the global history of Christianity over the last 2,000 years (NOT just the English speaking world over the last 200 years). AnonMoos 21:03, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
Dude, I'm sorry, but there isn't any such "right" to be on the Christianity template -- because if there were, then that would open the template up to including hundreds of groups. And the fact that you haven't addressed any of the specific concerns I raised above (other than repeating the 2 million statistic, which isn't enough by itself) doesn't impress me. AnonMoos 03:46, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Don't make false accusations

Please don't make false accusations of vandalism, as you did in your edit notes at List of Monster in My Pocket characters. Spylab 18:22, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Scott also makes false accusations at Charun in edit notes (see here). Violation of WP:Assume_good_faith, of course. This is becoming a pattern with him. --Glengordon01 04:54, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Glengordon01 is a hypocrite. He accused me of vandalism before I ever accused him of vandalism. --Scottandrewhutchins 17:18, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
See? Angry, spiteful and always accusatory. Sufficed to say, the IP he accuses me of is in the States closer to himself, but I'm in Canada. Obviously then his accusations are false, vicious and out of control but he never apologizes for his anti-productive behaviour. He needs time-out. Scott's contribs show that he's editing a gazillion articles per day but is intent on interfering with other people's contributions for god-king pleasure rather admitting when he knows less than someone else. Please take time to go to the bathroom, Scott, and find groups offline to balance out your life. There is such a thing as internet addiction and you're a prime candidate. --Glengordon01 21:22, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

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