Talk:Scout method

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[edit] Good Turn

needs something about the Good Turn Chris 16:42, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

Done. Rlevse 15:28, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Merge from Educational principles of Scouting

  • Merge, major overlap with these articles. The "Educational" one was just created. Scout method is the better name. A redirect should be left on the "Educational" page. Merging would reduce redundancy and make a stronger article.Rlevse 10:29, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Support: The "Educational principles'" text gives many good sources for the method's article. --jergen 14:17, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Support. For obvious reasons. And there is some good info on the Scout method in the Scouting article as well. Wim van Dorst (Talk) 16:27, 30 December 2006 (UTC).
  • In general I agree, because indeed in my opinion these principals are the Scout method. However by expending and formalising in time they lost their directness and sharpness for the normal reader (and Scout leaders). Therefore I wrote it in a direct and compressed way, more than I could fit in the formal language of the Scout method article. Also it is a list of all types of principles, without a real system and I found it difficult to incorporate this in the system of the Scout method articleDParlevliet 21:59, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Support merge. Chris 02:17, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Support merge. Sumoeagle179 17:06, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Support merge. --Gadget850 ( Ed) 22:04, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Support the merge. —ScouterSig 15:18, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Support merge. Stevecull 11:48, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Merged as requested. I expect this would also change "Rationale.." and "Scout law" paragraph. Because this will be deleting I propose its better to first give the original writer the opportunity to change before I delete to much? Otherwise I will try. Regarding the original article I would not object if it is deleted.DParlevliet 15:35, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Reference 1 and 2 (from WOSM) are not available anymore. I could nog find alternative explanations on their site.DParlevliet 21:00, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Merge from Patrol system

It's fairly new.Rlevse 23:14, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Merge. I agree. It part of the Scout method. --Bduke 23:48, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Merge. The Patrol system is certainly an integral part of the Scout Method, and I doubt very much that it deserves its own seperate article unless there is some other Patrol system used outside of Scouting. Horus Kol 11:21, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Scout method

Should it be Scout method or Scout Method capitalized? --Jagz 17:07, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Capitalised - The Scout Association POR Horus Kol 11:12, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
"While Beaver lodges have no leader structure within them, Cub sixes have a sixer and seconder." Needs internationalized. It's not sixer, etc everywhere.Rlevse 12:34, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
Not in all counties Beavers have lodges. --Egel Reaction? 14:03, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
For that matter, a Patrol in the UK is more normally of around 8 Scouts... I realise that the terms may vary in some countries, but isn't it right that we show what is common - and then nation specific articles can talk about the variation... as a counter-example, the Scouting article has a Summary of age groups and sections which does not reflect anywhere near the variety as shown in the article Age Groups in Scouting and Guiding... but, that, to me, is correct - an article shouldn't be filled with "mostly it is this, but it can also be ... or ... or ... or" ad nauseum... that is why we have articles for specific countries to talk about their specific variations in programme. Horus Kol 12:33, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
You dont' have to go that far, one could just say something like Cub den(whatever) elect a leader and asst leader. Rlevse 13:04, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
Except that Cub "den" is not universal... Horus Kol 21:51, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Should the name of the article be changed to "Scout Method" then, with a capital "M"? --Jagz 22:12, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Jagz, I would check with an administrator or someone who might have a better idea. Or try to change it and see what happens. Generally people probably think of it as capitalized, so it makes sense to us. In the wiki world they have some weird capitalization rules, so I can't tell if it would offend those rules to capitalize it. sorry, no more help. --Tinned Elk 19:57, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
Hmmm... The BSA Language of Scouting is silent on this one. There are several references to "the methods of Scouting" on the BSA website, but only one reference to the "Scouting method". --Gadget850 ( Ed) 20:26, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

It is capitalized here in section 2, paragraph 3.[1] --Jagz 15:57, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Some editing

I did some copy-editing and reorganization to make this article clearer. When I first read it I could not tell what the method really was and thus got some info from the Scouting Ed System publication referenced from this page. I still think it might do to have more structure. There is also no real explanation here of the "scouting game" or what the progression or "class" is. I see from the comments that this is really several articles merged, so I hope that I have added some clarity to the article! --Tinned Elk 01:28, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

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