Talk:Scott Wilson Group

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Hi,

I would like to find out what information on the page conflicts with Wikipedia rules or guidelines. We have been careful to only state facts about the company and have not written the page in a tone that is self-promoting. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Scottwilsonplc 15:34, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

The problem is not so much the information, as the editor providing it. In my experience many people (and companies) are perfectly capable of writing about themselves accurately and fairly, but just for the appearance of neutrality on Wikipedia, the article should be checked and verified by someone else. Sam Blacketer 16:00, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

In my opinion, this article isn't too bad, and we appreciate both that you are being upfront about your connection to the company and are attempting to write within Wikipedia policies. The main thing the article lacks is external references. Your applicable policy is Wikipedia:Notability (companies and corporations). In particular, you need to show that it meets the following:

A company or corporation is notable if it meets any of the following criteria:

1. The company or corporation has been the subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent of the company or corporation itself.
   • This criterion includes published works in all forms, such as newspaper articles, books, television documentaries, and published reports by consumer watchdog organizations except for the following:
     • Media reprints of press releases, other publications where the company or corporation talks about itself, and advertising for the company.
     • Works carrying merely trivial coverage, such as newspaper articles that simply report extended shopping hours or the publications of telephone numbers and addresses in business directories.
2. The company or corporation is listed on ranking indices of important companies produced by well-known and independent publications.
3. The company's or corporation's share price is used to calculate one or more of the major managed stock market indices. Note this is not the same as simply being listed on a stock market. Nor is it the same as being included in an index that comprises the entire market. The broader or the more specialized the index, the less notability it establishes for the company.

Presumably #1 is possible? The point is, you need to show that people other the Scott Wilson Group have (non-trivially) written about Scott Wilson Group. --OpenToppedBus - Talk to the driver 16:02, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

On the whole, the article reads fine to me at the moment. I don't believe that there is any significant promotional material present, and the company has (probably) established its notability with the projects it has been involved in (though some referencing wouldn't go amiss here; not least to establish that Scott Wilson weren't just the caterers on the projects!). The article does need a leading introductory paragraph, but beyond that (and the aforementioned sources) it's fine by me. Regarding Sam Blacketer's point about the author of its content, I've got a friend with Arup who might be able to comment on the content. I'll ask. Cheers, --Plumbago 17:59, 22 January 2007 (UTC)