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FROM Dr.K.UDAYA SANKAR, LIMCA WORLD RECORD HOLDER (INDIA) MORMON WORLD RECORD HOLDER (USA ) SCORPION STING TREATMENT CONTRIBUTOR TO INTERNATIONAL MEDICAL TEXT BOOKS LIMCA RECORD HOLDER 1997 ( INDIA ) LIMCA RECORD HOLDER 2007 ( INDIA ) INDIAN NATIONAL AWARD WINNER 1997 104,Keerthikrishna Apartments,Shanti nagar, Mallepalle,HYDERABAD500028.A.P. INDIA Mobile----00919949995085,00919866650805   To  THE EDITOR, WIKIPEDIA ENCYCLOPEDIA SUB======MORE INFORMATION==== DEHYDROEMETINE IN SCORPION STING TREATMENT                   Dear  Sir,                 I , DR.K. UDAYA SANKAR & MY FATHER DR.K. GOPAL RAJU ARE THE AUTHORS OF THE ARTICLE " INJ DEHYDROEMETINE IN THE TREATMENT OF SCORPION STING " PUBLISHED IN THE MEDICAL JOURNALS like " THE ANTISEPTIC " , Monthly  Journal Of  Medicine & Surgery, Page no 703--707,Dec 1984,    WOCKHARDT MEDICAL TIMES , Quarterly Medical bulletin , Apr--June,1985  & in the STANDARD INTERNATIONAL MEDICAL  TEXT  BOOKS  LIKE   Bailey & Love's Short Practice Of Surgery,  21 st Edition, Page no 11, (U.K),   Forfar &  Arneil 's Text Book Of Pediatrics  4 th Edition, Page no 1581 & 1614 ( U.K.) Kumar &  Clark's Text Book of Clinical Medicine  4 th Edition, Page no 882,( U.K.)  Davidson's Principles  Practice of Medicine  17 th Edition, Page no 1144, ( U.K. )  Hamilton Bailey's Essentials Of Emergency Surgery  12 th Edition, Page no 859,( U.K.)  F.Hoffmann La Roche AG  Literature Data Bank , Basle,( Switzerland )  Prescription Drug Info ( USA ) So  Inj  dehydroemetine is useful in scorpionsting treatment. I request you to add this important information in the  WIKIPEDIA ENCYCLOPEDIA. It is more useful to medical students, doctors, toxicologists & general practitioners. I look forward to hear a favourable reply from you soon sir .  Thanking you sir,  Sincerely Yours,  Dr. K. Udaya Sankar

Somebody replaced the original contents of this page which referred to the animal (invertebrate) called "scorpio"!! Tsferreira 21:39, 15 October 2005 (UTC) I reverted it. Tsferreira 22:07, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

The image (by T.HO) is not a real scorpion -- it looks like an origami thing or a computer-generated image. It is quite misleading to use it in this article - especially without any warning.
Jorge Stolfi 01:56, 7 May 2004 (UTC)

I've replaced it with a public domain image of a real scorpion. Lupo 12:02, 10 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Alot of this page is wrong or lacking in detail so I'm going to redo most/all of it.--Fusion121 22:13, 6 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Contents 1 Suicide 2 Pedipalps 3 Please check accuracy of facts 4 Types 5 No info about diapause 6 survive radiation from nuclear weapons? 7 and attesting affinity with the still earlier marine Arachnida referred to the group Gigantostraca. 8 Eating Scorpions is an Antidote? 9 Venom 10 Venom cure for cancer 11 What do scorpions eat? 12 Bottle green scorpion id 13 Where do scorpions live? 14 what to do when one finds a scorpion in the house? 15 External Links 16 "Article for creation" rejection

[edit] Suicide

I have seen footage of a scorpion committing suicide. Once was with a circle of fire, the other was a scorpion that was trapped in a toilet. They both stung themselves by hooking under the folds of their "armor". Is this for certain that scorpions do not commit suicide? 69.5.159.173 03:56, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

They probably go into spasms in extreme heat or while drowning, stabbing themselves in the process. Drutt 16:02, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Pedipalps

Pedipalps: these are a pair of modified legs that have evolved into claws. The claws are used for primarily for prey capture, but also play an important part in the scorpion mating dance. The pedipalps are made of up of 6 segments. The claw itself consists of the upper fixed finger (tibia) and the lower moveable finger (tarsus). The size of the pedipalps is highly dependant on the species, however a general trend is that the more venemous the scorpion the narrower the pedipalps, as scorpions with less potent venom use their larger pincers to subdue prey.

I always thought that pedipalps were closer to antenna than legs. Perhaps they could be referred to as "modified appendages."

No current theories suggest they are modified legs--Fusion121 00:35, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Please check accuracy of facts

The phrase "Unless molested, scorpions are perfectly harmless, and only make use of the sting for the purpose of killing prey. Generally, they will run from danger, or remain very still." is IMHO absolutely untrue. Many times when I was in the desert with friends scorpions ran to us. I saw twice a person sitting on a rock, and a scorpion coming from elswhere (not from under the rock) climb the rock and stung the guy without provocation (I did warn them but they wern't paying attention). I knew a professor who also confirmed this, that scorps attack humans without provocation. Again, it might be that there was some circumstance which can be defined "molesting" or whatever, but I think these claims have to be checked. Www.jpfo.org

The scorpion may be after the shade the person casts? I've had this happen, and once it's comfortable between the heel and sole of my boot (not been stepped on), it stops and settles down. I don't encourage you to find out without your trousers tucked safely into your boots, though! Whatever the cause, it's certainly worth mentioning that, as with hornets and spiders (and pretty well everything else), some species are placid, some are right ****'s and there are always exceptions.121.127.194.149 11:59, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

No creature attacks without provocation (unless it's a special case). There are species of scorpions that live underneath rocks. Probably by sitting on the rock, your friend disturbed its home. Also scorpions rarely ever kill their prey; they only stun it. Mooski Magnus 03:04, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Types

This article should feture the types of scoprians and the strengths and weaknesses of them all, along with some pictures!-VenomousNinja 23:45, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

I've read of a Central American type called alacron (or alarcon). Can anybody confirm? Trekphiler 23:26, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] No info about diapause

I read an interesting article today at Yahoo! News, "Scorpion Survives Inside Fossil Sample", which desscribed how a scorpion survived 15 months without food or water trapped inside a fossil mold. It said:

Scorpions, which eat insects, are capable of surviving for months without feeding or moving in a sleep period known as diapause, said Richard Baumann, a Brigham Young University zoologist.

As always, I went right to Wikipedia to find out more about diapause, but was disappointed to discover that article is redirected to the ultra-specific mammalian embryonic diapause (itself a stub), without any discussion of the general trait that might suggest its availability to scorpions. Nor is there any use of that term in this article.

Could someone add some (preferably sourced) text about this intriguing scorpion condition? In addition to helping this article, it might lead to the creation of a proper "diapause" article. Thank you. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 02:50, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] survive radiation from nuclear weapons?

I would like to add to the article the fact that scorpions are able to survive the radiation that results from nuclear explosions. My evidence comes from the following website:

http://web.singnet.com.sg/~chuaeecc/what/what.htm#Distribution

"Scorpions can be found in the sea (littoral scorpions), in the mountains, in the desert, in the tropics, in the caves and just about anywhere except perhaps the Arctic and Antarctica. An interesting fact is that scorpions is found to even survive radiation from French nuclear weapons test sites in Sahara (Bites and Stings, 1989)." I'd love to hear any thoughts that you have on my suggestion. Ycaps123 19:07, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] and attesting affinity with the still earlier marine Arachnida referred to the group Gigantostraca.

This is confusing me. Concise Encyclopedia Biology says that Gigantostraca is:

giant sea scorpians: an extinct anthropod order containing the genera Pterygotus and Eurypterus.

But doesn't Euryperus belong to Eurypterida? :? TrueMirror 02:57, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Eating Scorpions is an Antidote?

I've repeatedly heard a myth that says that if you eat a scorpion afeter it stung you, eating it will act as an antidote for the venom. The explanation is that the scorpion contains the antibodies for the venom, antiboidies that prevent him from being attacked by his own venom. Hope eventually wikipedia will come up with an answer, I would appretiate if I could be notified (sumac69@hotmail.com)

This is not true. The only known antivenin has been made from scorpion venom peptides, but eating the scorpion will do you no good, except possibly make you throw up that poisonous mushroom you ate for lunch. And anyway, a scorpion is NOT immune to its own venom; it's just not stupid enough to sting itself. Scorpions love to eat other scorpions though. Mooski Magnus 03:11, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Venom

Is it really the case that scorpions (and members of their own species) are immune to their own venom? Many documentaries that I have watched state that the opposite is true. In fact when fighting, they do try to inject and kill each other with venom.

I heard that in general they whear imune to ther poison,but this wasn't systematic.--Pixel ;-) 23:06, 19 September 2006 (UTC) here it says

scorpions are immune to their own poison, but this depends on factors such as the individual's health, where it is stung and the dose of the injection. [1]

This claim makes the mating paragraph contradictory since it states it sometimes sting the female to pacify it.

[edit] Venom cure for cancer

can someone check this--Pixel ;-) 23:10, 19 September 2006 (UTC) [2]

[edit] What do scorpions eat?

There should be a section explaining this.

Do the second 2 paragraphs honestly belong in the how scorpions eat section?!

SoccerPrincess1014 23:18, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bottle green scorpion id

The image is of a bottle green scorpion from the Western Ghats. Any identification welcome ? (Pocock's Fauna of British India Scorpions volume is available online) Shyamal 01:42, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Where do scorpions live?

I am doing a project and i have no idea what they live in. I am sad too see that the article has NOTHING on it. Caves, Holes, Trees, etc. Please put this in

Working on Life & Habits Section Intersofia 13:30, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] what to do when one finds a scorpion in the house?

Spray with Lysol? Spray with hairspray? Step on? What? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.251.84.221 (talk) 05:06, 12 March 2007 (UTC).

Pick it up and put it outside? Drutt 07:31, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] External Links

If I add a link to the excellent scorpiology.de site, will it be deleted as spam? Drutt 16:12, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "Article for creation" rejection

A proposed Wikipedia article was rejected, because it was written as a letter proposing an article rather than an actual article. However, it is about scorpion stings, and the editors of this page may wish to take it further. If so, please see [3] - you will need to click "Show". Notinasnaid 15:36, 30 March 2007 (UTC)