Template talk:Science fiction
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This template is really large and obtrusive, due to its vertical format. The template could be made smaller and easier to incorporate into articles by using a horizontal format, e.g.:
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Media : Anime · Artists · Authors · Comics · Editors · Films (List) · Magazines · Manga · Novels (List) · Short stories · Television · Webcomics |
There are better ways to format it but that's the basic idea. RandomCritic 09:55, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
Yes, it had quickly gotten larger. A similar thought had occurred to me (horizontal format). Compactness is highly desirable. Hu 09:57, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
Maybe we should split it through the middle, and have a full listing of genres and themes too? Please excuse the Sailor Moon stuff - this template is modelled from {{Sailor Moon}} - and I'm not sure what would be so overarching that we'd like to put it at the top. (Nor am I absolutely sure how to remove the overarching part...) - Malkinann 23:30, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
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RandomCritic 14:38, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
That looks nicer. :) I'd prefer to have it a bit more condensed length-ways, because it scrolls off the edge of my screen, but I guess other people don't have that problem. Also, I'd like to have the view-talk-edit button-thingy embedded in the template, so that we can add more stuff to it. There are quite a few more themes, genres and topics in science fiction (nudity, women, pregnancy, world government) that we could add to the template now that it's going across the bottom of the article - I just picked the "Big Three" to begin with. - Malkinann 21:35, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
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- Fixed a couple of those problems. RandomCritic 00:05, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
That looks good. :) Do you want to replace the current with this? I'll lend a hand in changing the placing of the template in the articles it links to when you do - it should probably go right at the bottom of the page, below stubs. If you put a stub under a bottom template like this, you don't often see it, I find.- Malkinann 01:07, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
I added the last three categories from the existing list, without alteration of content. But I think some reorganization changes might be made (though I don't want to do them unilaterally); I have doubts as to whether "Trekkies vs. Warsies" is important enough in sf terms to be in a list of major links (twice); and there are quite a few important genres that have been overlooked, like Space opera and Planetary romance. Nonetheless, if this form replaces the existing template, it won't, I think, add any defects to it. RandomCritic 12:34, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
- You should decide on what's important and what's not in terms of the Trekkies and Warsies - I'm not such a buff (I just don't get the SF vs Sci-fi debate...) - but I do agree that the Genres section needs expanding. Again, it was a case of the "Big Four". I'm not going to be able to access wikipedia for the next month or so, so if you want to change the templates over, you'll have to do the re-organising of where the template fits in the article yourself, sorry. - Malkinann 10:38, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] size of text
i saw this template over at Cyberpunk. it is a big space taker when it could be 'reference-small'; any reason the text shouldn't be smaller? JoeSmack Talk 02:25, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
- As you can see, this has been under discussion. Since it seems to be an immediate problem, I went ahead and (1) implemented the last suggested revision of the template, (2) moved it to the bottom of the pages where it's transcluded. RandomCritic 05:03, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] too many links
There should absolutely not be more than two lines for any section, not more than one line for most sections. Some of these ("Trekkies v. Warsies" is not a burning question in the community) are not signficant. Avt tor 23:50, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
- Then go ahead and delete those you think are unimportant! Be bold! RandomCritic 02:57, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
- Heh, not to worry, I will put this on my list of things to do. As this is currently on several pages, and can be added to many more after a bit of cleanup, I just wanted an opinion check before proceeding. Avt tor 06:18, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
Regarding recent additions to this box: The box is too big. It can't possibly be a comprehensive index; these kind of boxes can only be practical as pointers to reference pages which in turn may point to smaller categories of information. Adding links to this is the wrong way to go, IMO. I'm not going to immediately revert, but I do plan to tighten this box up at some point. Avt tor 16:02, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
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- Some attention should be given to the current quality and comprehensiveness of the articles linked to. For instance, Energy beings is just two sentences; probably not something that needs to be linked to at this level just yet. RandomCritic 17:24, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
