Talk:Saxhorn

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[edit] tapered bore

Is that the same as a conical bore?Jeffmatt 07:18, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

Yes, tapered/conical throughout the length of the instrument.

[edit] Instrument discrepancies

Other Googled sources of "Saxhorn" appear to contradict this article, as they do each other.

I do not know who is right on say whether the Euphonium or Flugel Horn are Saxhorns.

E.g. See: - http://home.earthlink.net/~tenorhorn/euphhistory.html Which states:- "Some consider the euphonium to be a B flat tenor tuba; others claim it to be a tenor or baritone Fluegelhorn; still others have mistakenly claimed that the euphonium was a Sax invention, or a derivation of a Sax instrument."

Perhaps this is a matter of ambiguous language depending on Country origin of each authority.

I'm interested in the GB context of Saxhorn, therefore as the original article demonstrates, please define in context of country.

Thanks in advance.

• http://www.rickcarlson.com/brass/fluegelhorn.html is a useful reference for fluegelhorn history:

Sax could not have invented the Fluegelhorn. It's existence has been noted since the beginning of the 18th century. The Fluegelhorn is not a Saxhorn. Saxhorns are valved bugles that resemble the cornet in profile...Circa 1846, German bandmasters began referring to the new E flat soprano Saxhorn as a Flügelhorn, while in continental Europe there was an F or E flat soprano instrument referred to as the petite bugle in France, and the pikkolo in Germany. The soprano Saxhorn, however, is not a Fluegel instrument, as it is not possessed of today's universally accepted Fluegel characteristics. The mouthpiece, bore profile and bell-size of the Saxhorn family of instruments are of valved bugle (cornet) configuration.

So, basically, the fluegelhorn (I love saying "fluegelhorn"; it's almost as much fun to say it as to play it) isn't a saxhorn -- but there's a saxhorn that's been incorrectly referred to as a fluegelhorn. (Or, another way to put it might be that you're correct -- it's a matter of ambiguous language depending upon the country of origin of each authority, the German bandmasters inserting some confusion.)

Euphonium has a discussion about the origins of the instrument; apparently there's considerable debate. --jpgordon∇∆∇∆ 04:00, 24 April 2006 (UTC)