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I =Nichalp «Talk»=, award Saravask the Featured article medal for his outstanding contributions to India and international topics. =Nichalp «Talk»= 13:37, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
I =Nichalp «Talk»=, award Saravask the Featured article medal for his outstanding contributions to India and international topics. =Nichalp «Talk»= 13:37, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
I award the Barnstar of High Culture to Saravask for his brilliant contributions to Rabindranath Tagore and all the other articles he has so meticulously worked on. Well done! Splendid!! Marvelous!!--Dwaipayanc 19:13, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
I award the Barnstar of High Culture to Saravask for his brilliant contributions to Rabindranath Tagore and all the other articles he has so meticulously worked on. Well done! Splendid!! Marvelous!!--Dwaipayanc 19:13, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
This Featured Article Medal is awarded to Saravask, for his work on bringing several articles, including Saffron and Kerala to Featured Article status, and working on taking many others, like Rabindranath Tagore towards that status. deeptrivia (talk) 17:48, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
This Featured Article Medal is awarded to Saravask, for his work on bringing several articles, including Saffron and Kerala to Featured Article status, and working on taking many others, like Rabindranath Tagore towards that status. deeptrivia (talk) 17:48, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
I award Saravask the Tireless Contributor barnstar for his contributions to improve Kerala to feature article standard. -- Ganeshk (talk) 03:33, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
I award Saravask the Tireless Contributor barnstar for his contributions to improve Kerala to feature article standard. -- Ganeshk (talk) 03:33, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

For your AWESOME work on the Kerala article, my heartiest congratulations! Jai Sri Rama! — Rama's Arrow 04:31, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
For your AWESOME work on the Kerala article, my heartiest congratulations! Jai Sri Rama! — Rama's Arrow 04:31, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

For consistently high-quality contributions to articles concerning Venezuela, I give you this pixelated computer image that looks kind of like a medal — Silence 05:58, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
For consistently high-quality contributions to articles concerning Venezuela, I give you this pixelated computer image that looks kind of like a medal — Silence 05:58, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

I award Saravask the Tireless Contributor barnstar for his contributions to improve Saffron, History of saffron and Trade and usage of saffron to feature article standard. —Cuiviénen (Cuivië) 23:32, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
I award Saravask the Tireless Contributor barnstar for his contributions to improve Saffron, History of saffron and Trade and usage of saffron to feature article standard. —Cuiviénen (Cuivië) 23:32, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Thanks for the correction

Saravask, thanks for correcting my wrong revert. It's being difficult to assume good faith all the time with anonymous fact changers. That's why I promptly reverted the edit without verifying myself. My bad. Thanks for setting the record straight. :-) -- Sundar \talk \contribs 06:35, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

By the way, why did you redirect your talk page to an archive? Just curious. I've reverted it for now thinking that it could be a mistake. -- Sundar \talk \contribs 06:40, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Space after footnote

Thanks for pointing out the problem. I use to leave the space, but then I read this and understood it to mean the space after the footnote! Fowler&fowler 12:38, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hi!

Saw you doing some edits in Tagore. I made a change in Tagore, redirecting it to Rabindranath Tagore. And made the new page Tagore (disambiguation) for all the Tagores. Added a notice at the start of Rabindranath Tagore. I think it's ok. What do you think? Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 19:24, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] India article - please explain your reverts on the talk page. Do not revert war.

I am sorry, but you should stop acting like you own the India article. I dont have to establish that Ugadi and Sankranti are as 'notable' or widely celebrated as Pongal or Holi. This is common knowledge. You need to get your facts right and clarify it on whatever talk page you want with whosoever you wish. Holi is not even a public holiday in many parts of the country. Dasara is the biggest festival of Karnataka, Bengal and Gujarat. It is the official state festival of Karnataka. It is also celebrated in every other part of the country. Ugadi and Sankranti are the new year and harvest festivals of almost half the country. Pongal is limited to the state of Tamil Nadu and only to the state of Tamil Nadu. Ganesh Chaturthi is arguably the most widely celebrated festival of India and it doesnt even find a place in your scheme of things! You seem to know squat about Indian festivals. So go get your facts right before you start owning articles and pushing POV. Sarvagnya 16:35, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

I appreciate your concern for brevity. But I am more concerned about the systemic bias you are introducing in your unreasonable and unnecessary quest for brevity. India is a big country and one with many different cultures, ethnicities, demographics, religions etc.,. No one is superior or inferior to the other and you will also have to treat them as such. India is probably what shows up as the first link when anybody in the world uses a search engine to look up "India". That being the case, we should make sure that it is as NPOV as possible. If a few words more can go towards making the section or article NPOV and removes systemic bias, we should go for it.
And in any case, your stand is simply unreasonable. Sankranti is every bit as notable as Pongal. How can you include Pongal and not include Sankranti. Keeping Ganesh Chaturti out of the list(however small you want it to be) is ridiculous.
Bollywood movies and popular media do enough to promote systemic biases and stereotypes. There is no reason for wikipedia to follow suit. Holi doesnt become more notable than Ganesh Chaturthi simply because there is a Holi song in every bollywood movie while none about Ganesh Chaturthi. I hope you see my point. I hope you realise the kind of systemic bias and stereotypes you're promoting.
Vis a vis Pongal, once again, you're promoting the stereotype that anything south of the Vindhyas has to be madrasi. My point is just this. Either remove festivals that are region/state specific or include those of all regions/states.
If you think you have given enough explanations, I think you havent. You only have kept harping on "summary", "summary", "summary". This is not going to cut it. If 'listcruft' is your concern, NPOV and 'systemic bias-cruft'/'stereotype-cruft' is my concern. I am sure my concerns are more valid than yours. Adding names of 3 or 4 extra festivals is only going to increase the length by a couple of hundred bytes and I am sure we can afford that for the NPOV it introduces. Sarvagnya 19:43, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
However, we are encouraging contributors to add information on flora and fauna or the military. Focusing on those topics would help more than endlessly adding new items to already representative lists.
Who are you to tell editors what they should be working on and who are you to decide what is 'representative'? How did you arrive at your so called 'representative' list? And what gives you the authority to act like you own the article? Also your comments like ".....bad edits will be reverted..."...(while replying to me where I was explaining my edits) reeks of high handed snobbish behaviour. Sarvagnya 20:10, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Flora and Fauna

Hi, Where should the Flora and Fauna section go? After "Culture?" Also, how long should it be? You could describe its size relative to another section. And how many pictures? Thanks. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 20:52, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your advice. It was very timely! I pulled out my India flora/fauna books earlier today. It turns out I have more than I had thought. Here's is what I have:
* Blatter, E. and W.S. Millard, Some Beautiful Indian Trees. Bombay Natural History Society 1997 reprint of 1954 second edition.
* Ali, Salim and S. Dillon Ripley (with Illustrations by J.H. Dick). A Pictorial Guide to the Birds of the Indian Subcontinent. Bombay Natural History Society 2nd edition. 1995.
* Prater, S.H. The book of Indian Animals Bombay Natural History Society and OUP. 1995 reprint of 1971 3rd edition.
* Tritsch, M.E. Wildlife of India Harper Collins. 2001. (This book has nice short essays on various topics.)
* Insight Guids, Indian Wildlife (edited by Samuel Israel and Toby Sinclair), Apa Publications, 2001. (This too has nice essays.)
The first three are classics with beautiful old illustrations, but probably with some dated material. Will add stuff to your page every now and then, when I digest some information. Thanks again. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 04:43, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
PS I skimmed through Kerala and read the flora/fauna there. That article is beautiful! Fowler&fowler«Talk» 04:46, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
Sorry, I have visitors and couldn't do much on the Flora and fauna. Hope to add to your F&F page tomorrow. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 07:01, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
Happy Thanksgiving! I fell asleep soon after dinner and woke up a little while ago to find everyone else asleep. Well, all except the cat. OK, will look for f&f tomorrow. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 07:16, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
Congrats! I just read the Flora and Fauna. It is superbly written. I many have a few minor changes, but overall I can't image anything to add or subtract. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 23:13, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
No, I wasn't setting up a laundry list, but just the list from which the smaller notables should come. As I said in a edit summary ("let's downsize later"). Part of the problem is that the f&f is now on the India page rather than your page. If you put it back on your page, I'll be happy to add the list there and we can then downsize. Or better yet, I will remove the list from the India page and create a f&f sandbox on my page and will work there and so can you. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 04:35, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Uh-oh, I just removed the list, but will put back. Will then send you a note with why I created that list etc. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 04:45, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] help with infobox

I have taken a look at the Indian Jurisdiction infobox, and am totally jealous. I am trying to create infoboxes for Dhaka Thanas and Bangladesh Districts. I need help on that, but it seems that Bangladeshi Wikipedians (at least those that I talked to) are not much upto the task. Can you please help? I have noticed your formidable presence in the collaboration on the Indian infobox. - Aditya Kabir 10:34, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sorry

I didn't mean to vandalize your page. Nareklm 23:43, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Well i think i fixed it :) Nareklm 23:50, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Editing Flora and Fauna

OK, I've put the list back. I've written it out with some explanations so that it is obvious what the animals are. I think the vignettes is a great idea. I think the list is a good representative list of flora, mammals, birds, and reptiles, in that it covers the range well from small to large etc. I removed bintourang because, although it occurs in NE India, it is really more representative of SE Asia and similarly for the caracal is more representative of West Asia. Many of the links themselves will give ideas for vignettes. Some examples that come to mind are:

I can think of many more, but you obviously have ideas of your own. Why don't you go first? I wait until I see what you've done. How does that sound? Fowler&fowler«Talk» 05:32, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

OK, will attend to the vignettes tomorrow. As for S&Co., it's way beyond the point of diminishing returns for me. I've given up on responding. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 06:20, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
Hi, I'm done with f&f. Let me know what you think. Ideally, I'd like to break it into 3 smaller paragraphs, but can't think how right now. Look forward to feedback. I removed one of your citations, because the UNEP one seemed more reliable. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 04:34, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
Did some more pruning and cp editing. Feel better about it now. I think the 2 paragraphs are OK now. It is longer than Australia, but packs in a lot more info. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 06:32, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Just saw your copy edit of f&f. Looks great! Australia, eat your heart out! BTW, I just noticed on this page that you did work on saffron (the plant) and its history. I had made a talk posting on the color saffron, on both the India and Flag of India page, but no one replied. When you have some time to spare, could you take a look at it? Thanks. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 00:24, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your contribution to Ilaiyaraaja

Dear Saravask: Thank you for your valued edit of the Ilaiyaraaja Wiki. Please also feel free to visit the Talk page of the article and see if there might be anything on the To-do list that you can help with. With best wishes, AppleJuggler 02:45, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] India Article, Indian Navy article

The section on Indian military in the India article need to be expanded. This is a main article and hence the Military information need to be precise. Requesting your help in expanding it and also the Indian Navy article need to be copyedited. Thanking you. Chanakyathegreat 04:15, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Thank you. Chanakyathegreat 10:58, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Good work done on Indian Navy article. Keep going. Another thing I would like to bring to your notice is that, the inclusion of Military and foreign relations did not suit India. India did not use military as a way of foreign relations. If the Military section expands it need to be seperated.

Thanking you Chanakyathegreat 03:55, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

It is a long term goal and I am not in a hurry to change it. It requires better understanding of this subject on how different nations utilise their military in foreign relations and whether India has a similar usage of the military or the military is a component only for the protection of the nation. It will take time, sometimes 4-5 months. Thank you. Chanakyathegreat 05:51, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

The Role section has been rewritten with the old one as the newone is not exactly reflecting what is said in the doctrine. Thanking you. Chanakyathegreat 02:08, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Request for move

Could you please see this and perform the move? I think u r online. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 20:35, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Saffron

Sorry, I didn't realize that you had replied! Thanks for your insights! Yeah, you are right about the perceived slight. Best to let sleeping dogs lie. BTW, I checked what Britannica had to say on the colors and they simply say: "Orange, white and green." No mention of saffron there. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 15:09, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Geo-stubs

Hi - I see you've made a few stub articles on places in New Mexico ((good work!) One small note - all US states have their own geo-stub templates, of the form StateName-geo-stub. So if you make any more, could you use {{NewMexico-geo-stub}} rather than just geo-stub? Just saves a little worrk further down the line:) Cheers! Grutness...wha? 06:25, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

OK, thanks. Saravask 13:54, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Chaco

This is a protected area, where geography is of primary importance. See FA's like Yosemite_National_Park and others. As for the sites and ruins, it appears logical to go from the general to the specific and the text actually reads that way. If you've been to Chaco, then you know the first thing you encounter is the stark geography, which makes you wonder how anyone could live in a place like this. Which brings us next to the history of the place, and leads one to reflect on the sites surrounding the area, composed of many ruins. —Viriditas | Talk 20:53, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Delhi FAC comments

Could you please see Blacksun's comments in the FAC? I guess we need some die hard Delhiite to take care of the culture section. Please help. I am also requesting some others. You can communicate with your known people as well. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 04:49, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] FYI: Your 1-week block of Users Szhaider, Nadirali, and Unre4L

Hi, Don't mean to get you entangled in POV-wars, but since you figured in this posting, I thought I'd let you know that I posted the following on Rama's Arrow's talk page:

Dear Rama's Arrow, As someone who has done battle on occasion with all three users, I nonetheless feel that your recent week-long blocks of them, especially the latter two, are a little heavy-handed and over the top. I feel that they should have been given more warning, and perhaps slapped with 24-hour, or 48-hour or even 3-day blocks first. I went back and re-read WP:NPA, especially the following, which I'm sure you well know:

In extreme cases, even isolated personal attacks may lead to a block for disruption. Legal threats, death threats, and issues of similar severity, in particular, may result in a block without warning. However, administrators are cautioned that other resolutions are preferable to blocking for less severe situations when it is unclear if the "conduct severely disrupts the project".

In light of the above caution, I actually went through Unre4L's "contributions" log between the time you gave him a warning on his talk page and the time you issued a 1-week block. Although, I am sure you have your reasons for blocking him/her, I personally couldn't find anything that disruptive, and feel that the 1-week block is extreme punishment for the crime at hand. I am not asking for your reasons, but simply that two neutral administrators (like say Dbachmann, Nichalp (if he is not too busy), Saravask, Ragib, or Aksi_great) review the blocks, especially those of users Nadirali and Unre4L. Thanks! Regards, Fowler&fowler«Talk» 11:54, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Regards, Fowler&fowler«Talk» 14:29, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Copyvio

I restored previously removed text due to its structural and narrative integrity. The current version has many problems with composition. You reverted my restoration/merge with a claim of "copyvio". The original author who added that text may have swiped a few lines from NPS, but their disclaimer says that they have released this into the public domain. I would like to see this version restored with cites to the NPS added and a rewrite in problem areas. —Viriditas | Talk 22:27, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

I'm trying to figure out how you read my above comment as a defense of plagiarism. I guess "cites" and "rewrite" aren't clear enough. —Viriditas | Talk 22:57, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Delhi FAC

Could you please see my long comment (!) in the Delhi FAC regarding the lack of soul etc? Basically IMO the city IS lacking a soul at present. May be we need very well-crafted skilled writing. Please see. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 12:20, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Join Wikipedia: WikiProject Protected areas of India

I have seen u editing in india and National park related article. I would be glad if u join Wikipedia: WikiProject Protected areas of India. Be free to edit its page as it is only in basic stage. Your comments will be highly apprreciable. Amartyabag (Talk) 11:07, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sundarbans Archipelago?

Hi there, You might want to weigh in on this. Thanks! Fowler&fowler«Talk» 22:42, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Conundrum

Hi Saravask,

I am almost at the end of my tether with bickering on the Talk:India page. A number of editors, some well-intentioned (like user:Indianstar and user:AJ-India) and others of uncertain intentions (like user:Sarvagnya) would like to add (or, have already added and which I then reverted) various portions of text to many sections of the India page, an FA. These proposed edits, all initially made by user:Indianstar are not minor (i.e. they are of the size of a small paragraph), and they have not been discussed before. I have tried to start discussion going on the Talk:India page, for example: see Example1, or Example2 (the title of this section has been changed retroactively by user:Sarvagnya from "History section" to "Fowler's High-handed Reverts"). The problem as I see it is that the edits are either controversial, or cover old ground, or too listy. I get the feeling that these editors are not really interested in discussing the issues because they keep accusing me of "making a mountain out of molehill" or semantic obfuscation. Their view is that their edits are common-sense and 1 or 2 KB or text is no problem, and that no time should be wasted on discussion, especially elaborate discussion like mine. Here is an example of some responses: Example3 and Example4. In the background, user:Sarvagnya seems to be egging on the other editors to go ahead and add the reverted material again before the discussion is complete. I am trying to hold on until Nichalp returns from his vacation on February 4, but in light of user:Sarvagnya's unmitigated hostility, I am concerned. She/He has used uncivil language consistently. Here are some examples of language directed at me:

  1. "Will someone do me a favour by drilling it into his skull ..."
  2. "hiding behind an admin to justify juvenile editing practices ..."
  3. "Just improve it. Dammit."

In spite of my civil reminder to desist (see here), she/he has continued with his uncivil language and earlier today she/he changed the title of the discussion section retroactively from "History Section" to "Fowler's High-handed Reverts". (The discussion section incidentally had been started by me.) I am trying to keep my cool, but it is frustrating to hear such language consistently, when most of me, judging from the level sophistication of her/his writing, is itching to say something. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 20:07, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

PS Hi, I've started a RfC Talk:India#Request_for_Comment:_Adding_new_material_to_the_India_page_history_section. Any comments and feedback, at your convenience, will be welcome! Fowler&fowler«Talk» 03:43, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Your article Wildlife of India

FYI: Dear Atulnischal, I'm not sure what grand plan you have in mind, but copying the section on Flora and Fauna from the India page and pasting it to create a new article and then referencing it on the India page itself requires some explanation. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 23:08, 12 February 2007 (UTC) User talk:Saravask

[edit] Your (Atulsnischal) article Wildlife of India

Dear Atulnischal, I'm not sure what grand plan you have in mind, but copying the section on Flora and Fauna from the India page and pasting it to create a new article and then referencing it on the India page itself requires some explanation. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 23:08, 12 February 2007 (UTC) User talk:Saravask


"Wildlife of India" deserves an article in its own right, "Wildlife of India" is a popular term that people look for and search for on the internet, school kids, nature lovers and people who want to go on nature and eco-tourism trips etc. General people and younger generation looking for Info on Indian wildlife do not look for scientific and little known and boring words like Fauna or Flora or terminology like Protected areas of India etc. All this can be brought together under "Wildlife of India" article by a popular and commonly used and searched name. As per the content of this article: everybody is free to edit and add info on it.

Thanks, sincerely

Atulsnischal 23:21, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Greetings

Happy Holi !!--Dwaipayan (talk) 05:51, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] India Demographics

Because of India's rich diversity, no one image can represent all of India's one billion people. That is why I propose selecting a new demographics image every three months. This would allow for a regional balance and would show India as a whole. Many people have agreed that this is the only way to represent India's rich and varied diversity. Since you have voted for a change in the demographics section, I wanted to update you on this proposal. I would love to hear your comments on talk:India. Thanks so much. Have a great day!

-Coollemonade 23:48, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] MedCab Case: 2007-03-03 Template: Infobox World Heritage Site

You have been named a respondent in a MedCab case: Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2007-03-03 Template: Infobox World Heritage Site. If you wish to proceed with informal mediation, please edit the discussion section of the case page, state you wish to proceed, accept Alan.ca as your mediator, and then sign your name. Alan.ca 07:29, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Kerala

The budget details are available in the official site of the GoK. Can you update the economic statistics and other details in the Kerala page ?

Thanks in advance. , -- Rajith Mohan (Talk to me..) 07:37, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Infobox help

Hi Saravask, recently i have been trying to code infoboxes for metros (see Template:Infobox Chennai place) to make use of city maps that i made, with limited success. I wanted to know that if its possible to merge it with Template:Infobox Indian Jurisdiction by giving an extra parameter like region=Chennai and the template automatically using the chennai map? It could me more effective than creating different infobox for different metros -- PlaneMad|YakYak 11:45, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your help, ive driven myself insane copying the indian urban area code and tinkering with it for the chennai infobox. So im not too keen to dip my hands into the syntax again, i think the matter is best left in your hands ;) Im going to be away for two weeks, i will get back to you then -- PlaneMad|YakYak 19:27, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Rajshahi University

Check out the Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Rajshahi University if possible. Thanks--ppm 05:11, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] An award

The Graphic Designer's Barnstar
I PlaneMad hereby declares you, Saravask as an able graphic artist after displaying your skills with this fine piece of work -- PlaneMad|YakYak 13:42, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Extreme temperatures

As far as I know, extreme temperatures are poorly documented in India. I have heard reports of 50+ °C, and −45 °C but rarely mentioned in popular print sources. The best website for important cities is thus, but for states it become more difficult. =Nichalp «Talk»= 15:04, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Tornados

See this website. We get tornados, too! --Dwaipayan (talk) 12:23, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your maps

Looks like your n a role with the climate maps, great job. I did notice that you are using an old base map with uttaranchal, give me a day and i will update the base map to which i have made quite a few modifications -- PlaneMad|YakYak 16:01, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Hey, thanks. Saravask 16:05, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Black spots in maps

I'm not sure why they are appearing. I had the same problem and Ambuj had corrected it for me. I'll ask him. =Nichalp «Talk»= 04:21, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Need help on Kodaikanal and Silent Valley annual temp/precip bar graph

User:Saravask:
Excellent work on Climate of India! Template:Handshake Award I see it is a Selected article candidate. Should be a Featured article as well.
I have been working on Silent Valley National Park and Palani Hills National Park but hit a wall when I get to Climate sections. Real data for those places seems unavailable.

The closest reference source I've found is:
Shea, D.J., and N.A. Sontakke, 1995: The Annual Cycle of Precipitation over the Indian Subcontinent: Daily, Monthly and Seasonal Statistics. TN-401+IA, National Center for Atmospheric Research, 168 pp.
But now how to get it and then what to do with it? Even if I had the data, I'm graphics challenged.

What I ideally want for those articles is just like the Bar graph for Madras

Can you make these graphs and rewrite the climate sections of these articles or even refer this request to some Wiki weather graphics guru who can/will?

Thank You for any help.-Marcus 07:43, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

cc:Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Protected areas of India

[edit] infobox

Any updates on the indian infobox? Since im scared of looking at the code, i want to know if a few things can be incorporated:

  1. by taking a parameter metro=Chennai it automatically uses the chennai city map.
  2. and type=landmark would give just the map.
  3. when the locater label is clicked it goes to the geo template.

If you can make at least the map change i can start using the template on Chennai articles -- PlaneMad|YakYak 19:01, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Yep, same as clicking the coordinates at the title. Better than that would be to straight away take you to the google map, but that would show the external link icon ([1]) wouldnt it? -- PlaneMad|YakYak 19:26, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Ive just made a state map for Tamil Nadu. Is it possible to modify the infobox so that for places in Tamil Nadu, it shows the location on this map and sumperimposes on the top left corner? -- PlaneMad|YakYak 10:41, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Coordinates
left= 76.1599 E
right= 80.7110 E
top= 13.6299 N
bottom= 7.9422 N  

I actually did it[2]!! just need to superimpose the India thumbnail -- PlaneMad|YakYak 12:44, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

How is the pushpin different from whats in use now? -- PlaneMad|YakYak 13:22, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
Thats exactly what needs to be done. So you can include the pushpin feature into the infobox -- PlaneMad|YakYak 14:00, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

I see ur hard at work with the infobox, great job. Just thought id tell you that theres no point tweaking the default indian map coordinates, the map has a mecrator projection and not equal area. You can never get every place to show up correctly. We just need someone to make the state maps, which is quite a job. Maybe i can make the state outline maps for now and fill in the districts later. Will update you next week -- PlaneMad|YakYak 20:07, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

I know this is making things complicated but how about using Image:Capital city marker.svg for state capitals -- PlaneMad|YakYak 20:12, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Beauty. Keep working, will be back next week and i hope to see it moved to the main template :) -- PlaneMad|YakYak 20:30, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Legend errors

Hi! I notice that the legend colours used in the Mumbai and Chennai charts are swapped. Needs to be fixed. =Nichalp «Talk»= 19:30, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Infobox Protected area

Hi! {{Infobox Protected area}} which is used for the Kaziranga National Park is too wide as the map defined is 300 px. Can it be brought down to the ones used by the Indian cities? =Nichalp «Talk»= 17:19, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

I was able to fix it with this edit. -- Ganeshk (talk) 17:31, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
Thanks. Saravask 19:34, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] State locator maps

Please read and comment. Regards, Ganeshk (talk) 17:12, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

I used the inset_map_default parameter. Works great. Your recent changes to the IIJ template were pretty cool! Thanks, Ganeshk (talk) 20:03, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Great work on the infobox Saravask. Is it possible to implement the left, right, top , bottom coordinates into one page for easier tweaking? the position on the inset maps can be fixed by giving seperate boundary coordinates for each inset locator map, if you can make provisions for that or make a test page i can supply the coordinates -- PlaneMad|YakYak 07:06, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] {{convert}}

Hi there. You've done a cascading-protect of your Template:Infobox Indian Jurisdiction which has locked me out of editing my own template (well, I can't be possessive, this is a community effort, but I wrote/write and maintain it), {{convert}}. I wasn't even aware of cascading-protection before tonight.. however, if there's a way to exempt {{convert}}, please do it. I've found a minor error (acre doesn't have an s at the end in certain instances, nothing to inhibit functionality) and I can't fix it, and I sure as hell am not going to go through WP:RfA so I can have access to it again. {{convert}} is safe for inclusion without further protecting it, it's already protected from editing by non-users. -- drumguy8800 C T 08:43, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I requested that Alison protect the page and I was able to edit it afterwards.. the reason I knew to contact you about editing {{convert}} was because it explicitly stated something along the lines of .. "This template is locked due to a cascading protect from the following: Template:Infobox Indian Jurisdiction." Still not too clear on it, though. By the way, it's a very well built infobox. kudos. -- drumguy8800 C T 22:02, 8 April 2007 (UTC)