Talk:Sanctuary of Our Lady of Licheń

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[edit] Sanktuarium Matki Bożej Bolesnej Królowej Polski, Licheń

Can I ask why this page was moved to a Polish name? This is the English wikipedia please, "Sanktuarium Matki Bożej Bolesnej Królowej Polski, Licheń" is not English; why don't we just remove the English text and make it Polish too, that way the intended audience (presumably only Polish speakers) won't be troubled with any English. - Calgacus (ΚΑΛΓΑΚΟΣ) 19:24, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

And why not be be bold, fix the problem and go on instead of ranting here? //Halibutt 15:36, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

I already moved it, so what are you moaning about? Besides, is being bold how you want me to act in future? I usually assume that arch-whingers like you will crack a raging fit if I were to act so boldly. Calgacus (ΚΑΛΓΑΚΟΣ) 15:50, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Truly Beautiful

What a beautiful Basilica. Can't believe I missed it during my vast travels in the PRL. I hope the photos do it justice. Wow! Hope to see it in person. Dr. Dan 03:03, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

No wonder you missed it, it was opened in 2004... And believe me, there is little beautiful in it except for the scale. Regardless of its style (or lack of such), on a closer look it's kitchy. You know, plastic instead of gold, concrete instead of marble... Sure, it's big (biggest in Poland, 12th shrine of any religion in the world, the architect once assured that 250,000 people could fit in there), but the inside is a complete mixture of styles and resembles a huge railway station - if anything. Definitely not a place for a silent prayer... //Halibutt 15:35, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Duh! I'm playing Matchbox Twenty's Mad Season, as I write this (maybe you know the song), I've downloaded it onto my PC to play on occasions like this. And now that I've read the article instead of looked at the pictures, I probably didn't miss too much. If your description is accurate, about the kitsch, I'll take a pass, or at least not go way out of my way when I visit, to see it. Dr. Dan 15:49, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Well, it's definitely worth visiting, but not for its beauty. Rather it is a great training ground for an anthropologist or ethnologist. After all the church is exactly what I would call a neo-Baroque: it doesn't follow any style at all, but follows the principle of Baroque in that it is to impress the meek and the petty. And believe me, it does. Facing such a structure, most of the pilgrims indeed feel amazed and start behaving... err... strangely. //Halibutt 09:48, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

I've seen the faithful behave and act strangely at Czestochowa, and Ostra Brama, too. Dr. Dan 00:49, 21 June 2006 (UTC)