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[edit] Not Really Much To Say About Preston, Is There?

shouldn't there be more focus on his music career rather than merely a summary of his two weeks or so in Big Brother? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Aliofly (talk • contribs).

Yeah I agree. There's more info about CBB4 on here, than there is on the actual CBB4 page on Wikipedia! The article might as well be re-named as 'Samuel Preston on Celebrity Big Brother 4.'

Considering the bulk of his 'fame' comes from Big Brother, I have no problem with this article focusing mainly around that. --^pirate 15:45, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
Lots of this article should be copied and pasted onto the CBB page. It's odd that on the CBB page their is relatively little info on CBB4, however, once you click on Samuel Preston there is loads more info about it

this says fuck all about the guys music career

[edit] Do Z List Celeb Wannabes Merit Entries on Wikipedia?

What is this guy actually doing on Wikipedia? He's a celeb magazine z-lister. The detailed description of his adventures in the BB house read like some 9 year old's school report. This is absolutely worthless trivia about some goggle-eyed little man whose pop career is already well behind him. If Wikipedia is going to contain references to every wannabe who clambers on to our limitless TV reality shows, then it might as well contain individual biographies of everyone living in the UK. I have therefore made appropriate changes.

The stuff about his career being solely about appearing in magazines etc. doesn't seem very impartial.

Well, given that his band had virtually no mainstream success or media coverage until his appearance on BB, it's obvious that his pop career is a direct spin-off of a reality TV show and quite without merit in its own right. However, I am prepare to let the amended entry stand as it is.

Having a grandparent who taught at Princeton University is not noteworthy, unless the lecturer was famous and can be cross-referenced. Otherwise, should every Princeton lecturer be on Wikipedia?

The connection with Philadelphia was superfluous (does it matter, for instance, if this guy returns to Blackpool every year?), as is the gratuitous mention of another, non-famous rock band.

I've removed the reference to Ordinary Boys' recent chart "success" - if it can be called that - as they have their own page. Also, the Never Mind The Buzzcocks episode looked as if it had been written by an 11 year old fan, if not Preston himself, so I've changed it to what actually happened.

I've also removed the rant about Amstell. If anything, it's about Amstell not Preston, so should go onto Amstell's entry, not here. Wikipedia is not a fansite, nor should it be used for promoting commercial artists. Preston has flogged his story to every celeb magazine going since his CBB appearance, and doesn't need gushing fan literature posted on this site.

-- The rant should definitely appear on this page, its about Amstell but said BY PRESTON, hense it should be atributed to him! as for the rant about fan literature i've no idea what your talking about!Soot and stars 13:57, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

No, it's just a long quote off the radio and has no place in an encyclopedia. Preston's opinion on Amstell, like his opinion on global warming or the war in Iraq, belongs in a TV or newspaper interview, or on his blog if he has one - it doesn't have to be quoted verbatim here. The notable thing about the Never Mind The Buzzcocks episode was his storming off in a huff, which made him a national laughing stock. Otherwise, he hasn't really been in the public eye since his wedding or done anything else of note as an individual. This isn't a fan site, and he's not a solo artist. The Ordinary Boys have a page that deals with Preston in his capacity as a singer. Outside the Ordinary Boys, he ranks alongside the likes of Jade Goody's boyfriend, Jack.

-- it's not my fault his fame comes largely from a reality tv show, yes he is a complete arrogant twat but never the less he still warrents a page on wiki due to his notable fame, the quote adds interest to the above story and bulks out his page a bit.. however i can't be bothered to re-add it as im up against an over zealous reverter.. come on you think Preston would be in a real enyclopedia? thats the great thing about wikipedia its allows a certain sense of pop culture to permiate what is in reality a high culture persuit. if i was you i'd chill out a bit and not let the increasingly meaningless persuit of celebrity worry you so much! Soot and stars 20:27, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

I don't think he even rates as an arrogant twat, he's just a non-entity who latched himself onto the winner of a reality TV show and therefore doesn't merit any wasted space on Wiki. By all means, add to the Ordinary Boys entry while they are still in business if you're desperate to pander to pop culture, but this individual is just a z-list celeb wannabe. There are thousands like him out there, all willing to sell their souls for an appearance in Heat magazine - and none of them are worth a mention. Famous for being famous isn't a reason for having an entry here, and this site is not to be used to promote artists or individuals. So, it's not a case of chilling out, it's a case of just sticking to the facts - and there's nothing really to say about this guy.

I've removed the earlier reference to him sucking a "big cock" backstage at Never Mind the Buzzcocks, which was probably untrue.

Once more, sycophantic fan comments have had to be rewritten.

I have deleted the reference to descent from Charles Grey, 2nd Earl Grey because it is not referenced. Can anyone point to some published sources confirming this? Christina Kaye 17:03, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Is the last paragraph worthy of Wikipedia? Can an experienced editor make a judgement on this please? Christina Kaye 17:05, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

I've removed it as it was unsourced. — AnemoneProjectors (talk) 21:11, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Yet again some little Preston fan has been trying to talk their idol up with the "I would have hit him" comment. I have removed this trivia.

Given what a complete and utter arse the guy made of himself on the Buzzcocks program, I would have thought his fan(s) would have rather the incident went unreported altogether.

-- Let me dish out a piece of advice to anyone who thinks adding anything new or interesting to this page is worth it... don't bother.. as i have already found this is one of them unfortunate wikipedia articles that has an "owner" someone who looks at it all day clicking refresh, immediately removing anything put forth that they themselves have not writtern, so with great sadness i suggest we declare this article "closed"? Soot and stars 16:06, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Could someone explain what a chud is (as refered to in the first paragh)

A Chud is a colloquial term for the male genitalia whereby the width of said member is approximately four times the lenght. Hope that helps!

Soot and Stars - how can anyone add anything new or interesting to this article? The guy is a nothing, an absolute little shit who'd do anything, go anywhere, appear in anything and marry anyone for a bit of fame. If you're a Preston fan, I'm sure he's set up his own website somewhere where you can go into great detail about what he thinks of Simon Amstell etc etc etc. BORING. Get over it.

Oh, and a CHUD is a cannibalistic human underground dweller. Don't you people know ANYTHING about popular culture?

What's this bit about him being Lembit Opik's love bunny, any sources to back this up?

They used to be an item a few years back and there's a ground swell of opinion that the marriage to Chantelle is a sham and he's still bumming Lembit Nervousbear 15:25, 23 February 2007 (UTC) NervousBear

- The Lembit Opik stuff is just vandalism and probably libellous and has been removed. The nonsense about Preston threatening to knock someone out is has been removed as it is 1) the kind of crap that belongs on a fan site, not here and 2) utterly ridiculous, as if this little shit of a man could knock anyone out... or punch his way out of a wet paper bag.

I've corrected the NMTB episode once more to include the word "huff" - which is what the sulky, humourless little twat stormed out in.

quick question, if you hate Preston so much why are you on this page 24/7 making sure everthing thats on it is constructed by you? i already know what you reply is going to be... something about "fan sites"??? what is your ungodly obsession with the words "fan site" why would a "fan site" put insults about its subject within its content? are you mental? if any ones qualified to make a "fan site" about Preston it is clearly you! you know EVERYTHING about him! Soot and stars 11:07, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Soot and Stars, your obsession with Preston and exploring every little detail of his life seems to need an outlet, but this is not actually what Wikipedia is for. This is the crucial point you seem to be missing. Why don't you start your own blog about Preston? That way, you get to give voice to your deep rooted feelings about him, but no one needs to read it.

Sorry what? i edited this page once, and i've stuck around because i find it funny talking to you! as ever you didn't answer any of my questions, i never argued that Wikipedia was for "every little detail" my questions were why are you on this page 24/7 and what is your obsession with the words "fan site", whats even funnier is after i mentioned this obsession you changed tact and used the word "blog" to replace your favourite "fan site"! lol.Soot and stars 10:44, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Blog, fan site.... it's all good. Forgive me my suspicions, but I have this nagging feeling that you are actually Preston, desperately trying to eek out whatever is left of your 15 seconds of fame by trying to "big" yourself up on Wikipedia and desperate to put a positive spin on your disasterous Buzzcocks appearance. Tell me Soot and Stars... are you perhaps 4'11", with goggle-eyes, tiny shoulders and a head as big as your body, awful tattoos, a bimbo reality celeb wife and the lead singer of a pretty awful Madness tribute band whose last single was a flop? Well... are you? I think we should be told...

Yes... im preston... good one. Now we've moved on from that moment of sheer comedic bliss perhaps we should talk about the burning issue...

  • Yet again some little Preston fan
  • Once more, sycophantic fan comments
  • Wikipedia is not a fansite
  • and doesn't need gushing fan literature
  • kind of crap that belongs on a fan site
  • Why don't you start your own blog
  • If you're a Preston fan
  • I'm sure he's set up his own website

Now if that isn't someone with deep rooted dementia i don't know what is! im actually worried about you.. people can help you do you know that? You claim to hate Preston WHY ARE YOU CONSTANTLY ON THIS PAGE? please please answer the question please! Soot and stars 23:18, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Soot and Stars, please... calm down. Here on Wiki there are many of us who edit and revert content pages both to remove vandalism and to prevent self-promotion, fan material, useless trivia building up etc. That's what we do. There is no dementia involved, I can assure you. But what about you? What is it you actually want to add to the Preston page that has got you in this state? If it's not abusive, and it's not trivia, hearsay or nonsense about Preston knocking people out (lol) - and it's not actually Ordinary Boys information - then please share it with us.

[edit] Indie rock band?? Please...

Someone changed the category of the Ordinary Boys to "indie rock band". This is hilarious and obviously meant as a joke, but represents vandalism. They are essentially a Madness tribute band and can be classed (at best) as a faux-Mod group. I have reverted this.


[edit] Preston is an idiot

i see someone has sneakily put this comment on just below the references. this comment is not supported by reasoning or a reference. i don't doubt it, it's in the wrong section of the article though.

any evidence to support this claim?

It was vandalism so I removed it. — AnemoneProjectors (talk) 17:28, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Pink Oboe

Preston does play the trumpet and the oboe in the album brassbound, it's in the sleevenotes. I'm not sure how to reference sleeve notes. The oboe is probably not pink, that was a typo on my part.

Well I'll trust you on that, but you do know what "pink oboe" means don't you? — AnemoneProjectors (talk) 18:28, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
I've heard of pink oboes before but there doesn't seem to be an article on wikipedia or indeed any articles on pink oboists so I can't be sure.
Well playing the pink oboe (or similar) is a slang term for fellatio so you can understand why I reverted you. — AnemoneProjectors (talk) 14:11, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
My goodness, such a talented musician as Preston would have no trouble picking it up I'm sureHermanzegerman 15:47, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] What a funny little man he is

With the amount of vandalism that I've had to rectify on this page, it's clear that Preston is almost universally hated and regarded generally as a joke. While it is true that he is small, odd looking, with tiny shoulders and "goggle eyes", and has made a bit of a clown of himself in the last year desperately seeking fame at any price (even marrying some ditsy woman he met in the CBB house), I'm wondering if an individual entry for him is simply going to act as a continuing conduit for abuse (as has happened with the entry on that other reality TV wannabe, Jade Goody) and wouldn't it be better if Preston just got his own little paragraph on The Ordinary Boys page? The way he fell apart on the Buzzcocks show indicates that can't really handle the fame that he craves, and I'd hate to picture his odd little face if he were to read some of the off-colour comments made about him on this entry. He'd probably cry.

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