Talk:Salome (disciple)
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It seems there is a little too much sympathy given to the apochryphal forgeries of early Christianity in this article. Clean it up, someone! Tix 23:39, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
- As I'm sure you've noticed, but there are special tags to place on pages to indicate things like bias (or sympathies) in articles. There are complete lists at Wikipedia:Cleanup resources and Wikipedia:Template messages/Disputes. You should also know that followers of apochryphal Christian scriptures are a strong element on Wikipedia. Any edits to this page will have to be done in cooperation with them. -Acjelen 01:00, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
- If anyone doubts whether assertions of violation of "POV" are code terms for "Not my point-of-view", the POV label has been applied here by User:Tom Peters "because|This article elaborates on apocryphical writings and mostly ignores the canonical tradition". Let's have some "canonical" tradition for this article, and let us keep in mind that Wikipedia is not an approved organ of the Roman Church. --Wetman 15:54, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Um, what were they thinking?
[[[CHEESEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE In [Gospel of Matthew|Matthew] Is that supposed to be normal, or does somebody need to clean that up? I'm just bringing that up because whoever did that needs to be taken behind the woodshed (given a "talking to"). 71.210.96.162 23:25, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
I tried to clean this up, maybe it's more clear now. Rwflammang 01:11, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
I couldn't salvage the phrase "leaving Salome unrelated to Jesus" at the end of the paragraph on the gospel of John; It's a non-sequitur as far as I can see. Perhaps the original editor was thinking of something he did not write? Rwflammang 01:11, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
What does this sentence in the middle of the paragraph on John have to do with Salome? Or with John for that matter? Let's move it.
- "Mary the mother of James and Joses" mentioned in Matthew may be identified with Mary, the mother of Jesus, backed up by an earlier passage in Mark which names a James and a Joses (or Joseph) as being among Jesus' brothers.
- "In 15:40, we read: "And there were also women looking on afar off: among whom was Mary Magdalen, and Mary the Mother of James the Less and of Joseph, and Salome." This is a falsified quote. An interpretation presented as text. What else is wrong? --Wetman 06:29, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
I don't understand your comment about a falsified quote. What does Mark 15:40 really say? That quote looks accurate to me. Rwflammang 14:29, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Salome the Heresiarchess
Salome appears briefly in Mark, which is believed to be the earliest Gospel. Then her name is not even mentioned in Matthew, Luke, or John. Later, in the apocryphal literature, she is represented sometimes as Jesus' most faithful disciple or the woman who tried to tempt him. She must have been a prominent heresiarch, a major heretic and the leader of a heretical sect, which is why Matthew, Luke and John suppress her name. Saint or Heretic? Great Leader or Temptress? Or All of the Above? Next: The Salome Code.Das Baz 15:31, 15 September 2006 (UTC)