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[edit] "alsakeenata"
How does "alSakeenata" differ from Sakina? I fail to see the purpose of the amendment as such. On the contrary, it may serve to confuse the average layman without knoweldge of Arabic, as he/she may think that alSakeenata is something different due to the way it sounds or is pronounced in English.
Because it isn't in the form 'sakina' which would make make a closer association with 'Shakenah'. It's deceptive to put it in the form that it isn't used in to further a claim, rather than leaving it as it is. Anyone without knowledge of Arabic knows what's being alluded to, it takes a complete retard not to. --xx-Mohammad Mufti-xx 04:10, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Another light on the interpretation of Sakina =
In "The Light of Sakina in Suhrawardi's Philosophy of Illumination" by Nasrollah Pourjavady, his study focuses on the Qur'anic concept, sakina, which is related to the mystical phenomenology of inner illumination that was discussed by twelfth century Persian philosopher Shihab al-Din Suhrawardi. Nasrollah Pourjavady is a scholar in Islamic mysticism, professor at Tehran University and Director of Iran University Press.
Pourjavady shows first that this concept is embedded in early sufic writings as well as in one of the technical works of Avicenna. Secondly, he questions the thesis that this concept is rooted in the ancient Hebraic and Iranian perennial traditions. This study illustrates that like this philosophical writings, the mystical doctrines of Suhrawardi were influenced by Ibn Sina. Jarpirate 14:14, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] reply to Muhammad Mufti
Muhammad Mufti,
1) then why didn't you edit the quote of verse 2:248, which says SAKEENATUN in the transliteration? Why only Alsakeenata?
2) also, i would like a comparitive study to be included in this article, Sakina, because it explores the concept of Sakina. this would also include references to Shekhinah and Sakina bint Hussain.
regards, YAM
- 1) I forgot, but now that you've brought it to my attention, I will.
- 2)I rv'ed to Itaqallah since this article isn't about the comparative study, it's simply about the Arabic term. He added disambiguation, so if you want to talk about the term 'sakina' in relation to the prophet's(saw) grand-daughter, you can do it on her page, but it wouldn't make as much sense on this page. So if the following information that was removed from this page can't be found on her page than you can add to hers. But this information doesn't fit with this page on the Arabic term:
- - Sakina, or Sakina bint Husayn, is also the name of the youngest daughter of Husayn ibn Ali. This child was both the granddaughter of Ali ibn Abu Talib, and the great-granddaughter of Muhammad. She was born on the 20th of Rajab.
- - Sakina was imprisoned in Syria along with other members of her family, the Ahlulbayt, after the Battle of Karbala. She was subsequently tortured and murdered in a dungeon by the forces of the Ummayad Caliph Yazid_I.[citation needed] She was about five years old at the time of her death on the 13th of Safar.[citation needed] Her tomb in Damascus is a place of pilgrimage for Shia Muslims.
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- - It is worth noting that Shi'ite literature is replete with references to the bond between the parent and the child, with Sakina refusing to sleep without her head on Husayn's bosom, resulting in a feeling of tranquility for both father and daughter. She was found clinging to her father's headless corpse in the aftermath of the Battle of Karbala.[citation needed]
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- - The mourning for the young Sakina is an integral part of Shia ritual mourning for the day of Ashura, the culmination of the Remembrance of Muharram.
- --xx-Mohammad Mufti-xx 07:50, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
there is already a page set up for sakina bint husayn, all of the relevant information regarding her can be placed in that article if it is not already there. the comparative study that was suggested seems to be rather weak and essentially original research (i.e. not published citations) in order to justify her inclusion in this article. there is no reliable published source provided that has linked the usage of sakina in the qur'aan and arabic language with the experiences of sakina the personality (even metaphorically), so it is not for editors to try making deductions or interconnections which are less than obvious. regardless, disambiguation is more useful in that you don't have bits of information cluttered over several articles. you want everything about sakina bint husayn, on the sakina bint husayn page. therefore, this information does not need to be on this page. thank you for understanding ITAQALLAH 13:55, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
