Talk:Saint Seiya Episode G

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[edit] Note about the non-canonicity of Episode G

For once and for all, Kurumada has nothing to do with Episode G.

1) On the cover of the japanese tankōbon of Episode G, Megumu Okada is credited for the "manga" (art AND story) while Kurumada is only the "author of the original manga" (meaning Saint Seiya).

2) In a little interview published in the 1st tankōbon of Episode G, Okada explains that Kurumada told him "Do whatever you want to do".

3) In 2004, Kurumada stated in an interview that Okada was "completely free for developing the story of Episode G", and that he was only supervising him a bit (meaning supervising the art of the manga, since Okada is said to be "completly free" for the story), but that gave a lot more time to "Kojiro 2" by his pupil, Yuri Satochi, than to Episode G.

All these facts means that Kurumada basically don't care about Episode G, and has almost nothing to do with it. Which means that Episode G absolutely cannot be concidered canon, since what is canon is what comes from the author, or what the author helped to write. These interviews are the proof that Kurumada really had nothing to do with the story of G, which is thus entirely from Okada, and which has even been contradictory with the original story.

Episode G is not canon, period. So please do not try to write the contrary. Folken de Fanel 16:33, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Er...alright, I won't be editing that anymore. I got your message, incidentally. You're right, I should have looked at the discussion page. I just didn't think the manga was popular enough to warrant one. In fact, I'm surprised it even has a section. Anyway...What else do you think should be edited/added? HadesDragon 10:29, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

The fact Kurumada doesn't care about what Okada does with Episode G has NO weight on it being canon or not. Nor Kurumada or Okada said it's not canon. Nor Kurumada or Okada said it IS canon. Yet, Episode G is OFFICIAL. Until there is a direct statement of it being canon or not(like Kurumada or Okada saying "it's canon" or "its' not canon"), I suppose to write "Its status as canon is unknown" is the best solution. Sirtao 21:04, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, but in my country in this Manga says "Plot Masami Kurumada and Drawn by Megumu Okada", plus this I found a page with scans of Lost Canvas and Next Dimension, if the two Mangas are only in Japan, that means the people who scaned it it´s in Japan too, and in this page says "Plot Masami Kurumada", i don´t know, if you want the page, only tell me and I will post the link.

Episode G is NOT wrote by Kurumada. It's simply TOO different from his usual style to be his. It's more like "original concept" or "original plot" aka Kurumada saying the manga would been Golds vs Titans and leaving everything else to Okada. Just read Next Dimension and compare it to Lost Canvas or Episode G. TOTALLY different stylea of storytelling.Sirtao 01:02, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 2 questions

Hi it is normal we don't have inter wiki to ja: ?
you say 10 volumes, but this manga is finish or it's 10 for the moment ? thanks

There isn't a Episode G article in the japanese Wiki. And since EpG is far from finish, I'm going to correct it.

Well, here you have 2 links: the first for the page saying "plot MASAMI KURUMADA" and the next with the scans of Lost Canvas and Next Dimension... http://community.livejournal.com/stseiya_fanfics/ http://pics.livejournal.com/sagakure/gallery/0000d75k

and that of the different style, the Lost Canvas y wrote by Kurumada and it´s different than Next Dimension, Episode G is different too for the reason there is no Athena to kidnapp and you know all of what will happend in the future, he can´t change the canon history!

Getter Robot Gō, Shin and Ark have Go Nagai's name as author. But he did... well, NOTHING in them. Getter Robot is all made by Ishikawa since Getter Robot G. Same for Amon Apocalypse of Devilman: it's Yu Kinutani's work. But they still have the name of the original author Go Nagai on it. I think it's common use in Japan.
And I'm not talking about Athena getting kidnapped when I'm talking about STYLE, but I'm talking about the WAY events are told, how the characters speak. The Characters in EpG or Lost Canvas speak in a totally different way from the character in the original Saint Seiya, in next Dimension, in Ring ni Kakero or in B'T X. There is NO WAY Episode G or Lost Canvas could be wrote by Kurumada. Zero. None. Anybody analysing them with a critical eye would understand it.Sirtao 01:45, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

well, if you mention only old series of Kurumada like Bt´x, rin ni kakeru or Saint Seiya original, it´s obvios that this series are the old style of Kurumada, if I see lost Canvas or Next Dimension, I think it´s all diferent between the old series, he´s not the same young Mangaka that do Saint Seiya in that year! He change his style! plus this, how can you say "the form of the characters to talk", i´m thinking you are saying that you can analyze when a series is wrote by Masami Kurumada only reading how they talk!??

No, Kurumada IS the same. Please see Next Dimension. Same style. Even worst, actually. Lost Canvas, Episode G? TOTALLY different style. Different narration-style, the way the characters talk... the author it's a different person. TOO different is the style of these manga to be Kurumada's.Sirtao 11:32, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

And for the series you say at the begin, in the wikipedia page of getter robo says that is created by Go Nagai and the other guy, how do you know that he doesn´t do anything?? Wikipedia is wrong you say?? and Devil Man (in wikipedia) says "Devilman is one of Go Nagai's most popular creation", is wrong?? ok, Wikipedia, the most popular page with information about a lot of things and changed for good for a lot of people, for you is wrong!

the ORIGINAL Getter Robo was MADE by Nagai and Ishikawa. More Ishikawa than Nagai(whose being busy with his other mangas like Great Mazinger did almost nothing), but it was work of both of them. But Getter Go(and Shin and Ark) is ALL Ishikawa's work. Official sources say this AND you just have to read Nagai's mangas to understand it. Compare Violence Jack, DevilLady, Mazinsaga, ZMazinger and Cutie Honey'90 to Getter Go and you'll see the differences... the storytelling style, how the characters talk, the topics... everything is different from Nagai's works.
Devilman IS one of Nagais' most popular creation. Also, don't trust TOO MUCH Wikipedia: the first idiot can came here and change everything just because.Sirtao 11:32, 22 November 2006 (UTC)