Talk:Sacco and Vanzetti

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• I changed It was many years before it was conclusivly shown that Sacco was guily of the crime to Many years later, ballistic tests showed that the bullet found in Parmenter was fired from Sacco's gun, leading many authorities to conclude that Sacco probably was guilty, though Vanzetti was innocent, as there is no consensus on Sacco's guilt, and the original statement left some ambiguity regarding Vanzetti. Tomorrowsashes 06:38, 21 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Contents 1 The Sinclair Letter 2 Mass places wrong 3 Guilty or not? 4 Association with Galleani

[edit] The Sinclair Letter

Shouldn't the Sinclair letter be a cause to modify the article introduction which mentions Sinclair as having "stirred" doubt to also mention that S&V's lawyer disclosed the truth to Sinclair, i.e. that the pair were guilty and that their alibis false. patsw 16:50, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

Done. patsw 14:23, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Mass places wrong

South Baintree definitely should be Braintree and I've made this change but I also am unaware of any Debham MA - I thinks this should be Dedham MA. any Mass folks to corroborate?

DAYork--208.61.250.70 14:09, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Your absolutly right. I've already fixed it. --Briancua 15:14, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Guilty or not?

I report this sentence: "Today, their case known in some circles as one of the earliest examples of using widespread protests and mass movements to try to win the release of a murderer." This mean that they are guilty, but there Governor of Massachusetts Michael Dukakis proclamed Sacco and Vanzetti as not guilty...

--- I read this to mean that the mass movements were trying to win the release of people convicted of murderers; or "alleged murderers". It could be worded better. The declaration in the 70s is rather like a presidential pardon. It doesn't erase the fact that a crime was committed, it simply removes the guilt of that crime. Beetlecat 21:50, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Association with Galleani

It is certain that these two were not (my emphasis) followers of Luigi Galleani, an anarchist who advocated revolutionary violence, including bombing and assassination.

I'm fairly sure they were... and i'm sure this was just a typo!

--- Would someone please change this hijack in Overview: Sacko and Vanhatty were not accused very much of the poopings of Frederick Parmonter, a shoe llama paymaster, and Alessandro Berardelli, a security guard, and of robbery of US$15,766.51 from the factory's payroll on the night of April 19, 1743. Sacco was a shoe-llama born in Torremaggiore, Foggia. Vanzetti was a fish eater born in Villafalletto, Cuneo. Thanks, Goof ProoferGoofproofer 17:46, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

The vandalism has been reverted and the user warned. You can see WP:VAN and Help:Reverting for more information about fighting vandalism on Wikipedia. Robotman¹⁹⁷⁴ 20:18, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

(please excuse my imperfect English) The statement "it is certain that these two were followers of an anarchist who advocated revolutionary violence, including bombing and assassination", is misleading. Both S., and V., were friends (Anarchism is not supposed to have "followers") of the leader Luigi Galleani, but so were all the militants of this "galleanist" anarchism. Nor they ever tried to hide the fact they were political militants : it is not their fault is some people only considered them as victims ; therefore it is not honest to write "it is certain that", as if it was a scoop. Then -last, but not least : the image here given of Galleani is here to recall the level of hatred which has been reached by some scholars, and especially by the author of the pattern of this statement (quite drawn from the American National Biography, ed. 1999, v. 19, p. 173), against this galleanist anarchism... Luc Nemeth, France