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Contents 1 Archive-February 2007 1.1 Logos 1.2 New Signature 1.3 Speedy deletion of Wikpedia:Sandbox/Ryan Keyes Sandbox 1.4 RFA 1.5 areas that may be of interest 1.6 Adminship and stuff 1.7 More logos 1.8 Orphaned fair use image (Image:GRAM Logo.gif) 1.9 Orphaned fair use image (Image:Rumor Productions Logo.gif) 1.10 Orphaned fair use image (Image:GRAM Games Logo.gif)

Archive-February 2007

Logos

I took note of the added copyright tags, and I'm afraid that if I don't list them for deletion someone else will soon. Images with restrictions on commercial use, or which are licensed for Wikipedia only (which is what your prohibition against redistribution amounts to) cannot be used here. See WP:IUP#Adding images, which explains the policy.

Since you haven't added them to any articles, I wonder if they're really necessary. Where do you plan to include them? TCC (talk) (contribs) 03:57, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

You added them to that user page as external links. If you were hoping to show them on the page itself, that isn't the way to do it. See WP:XIMG for directions. If you're happy with the links the way they are, there's no need to host them at Wikipedia at all. You can link to your own server that way.

As for the licensing, no, it's still no good. I understand why you want it that way, but we don't place restrictions of that nature on any Wikipedia content. If someone wants to mirror the site and charge for access, they can. If they want to print the thing out, bind it into a book and sell it, they can do that too. If they want to alter the content, images included, create a derivative work and sell it, that's also something we want to allow. See WP:REUSE for policy on the kinds of restrictions we do allow. You can use a less restrictive license than the standard here if you like, but not more.

These are registered trademarks, I hope? TCC (talk) (contribs) 04:24, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

New Signature

Hey guys, I have a new signature! (below)

--Ryan ^TALK 03:56, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Done that way it looks like an external link. Try this:

[[User:Ryan Keyes|Ryan]] ^{[[User_talk:Ryan Keyes|TALK]]}

It looks like this: Ryan ^TALK Don't expect a wikilink to this page on this page to look like one, because it won't. Self-links appear in boldface instead. TCC (talk) (contribs) 03:48, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Wikpedia:Sandbox/Ryan Keyes Sandbox

A tag has been placed on Wikpedia:Sandbox/Ryan Keyes Sandbox, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done for the following reason:

There are enough sandboxes at the moment in Wikipedia space, this should be userfied.

Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not meet very basic Wikipedia criteria may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as an appropriate article, and if you can indicate why the subject of this article is appropriate, you may contest the tagging. To do this, add {{hangon}} on the top of the page and leave a note on the article's talk page explaining your position. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would confirm its subject's notability under the guidelines.

For guidelines on specific types of articles, you may want to check out our criteria for biographies, for web sites, for bands, or for companies. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. If you want to create your own sandbox create a user subpage such as User:Ryan Keyes/Sandbox.¤~Persian Poet Gal ^(talk) 01:44, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Hi Ryan - I've just moved your sandbox page to User:Ryan Keyes/Sandbox, to avoid the problems mentioned above. Grutness...wha? 02:02, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

I'd already deleted the old name it when I moved it across :). I'm only an administrator, not a bureaucrat. Basically, once you've been an editor for a few months and have racked up a thousand or more edits (including quite a bit of interaction with other editors on talk pages and on Wikipedia project pages), you can nominate yourself to be an admin (all the details are at Wikipedia:Administrators, and details of becoming an admin are ar Wikipedia:Requests for adminship). A bureaucrat, though, is a much rarer rank, and to get to that you've got to have had a very long good standing in Wikipedia with a good record of helping out in disputes between other users and things like that. There are only about 50 bureaucrats (I think) but about 1200 admins on WP. Grutness...wha? 02:16, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

RFA

I noticed you had place some notes on talk pages re you RFA asking for votes, this is generally disliked and will draw alot of opposition in your RfA. Gnangarra 02:49, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Suggest you quickly withdraw your RFA with only 168 edits it will potentially be a very unpleasent experience. suggest you wait for another 3-6 months and spend a lot time participating in the various community areas. like WP:AFD. Gnangarra 02:55, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Let me reinforce the good advice that Gnangarra gave you above. Almost no RfAs pass unless the editor has at least 2500 edits over 3-4 months. This is a practical minimum required and you are a long way short of that. There is no way your RfA will pass at this time, it would be best if you withdraw it now and try again in around 6 months. Best, Gwernol 03:31, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

I've closed it not because of edit count, but because it's clear you didn't read up on what adminship is about or what is expected. The things you mentioned you wanted to do are very helpful, but you can do them right now without being an admin. - Taxman ^Talk 03:36, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Ryan, you don't mess around, do you? I also agree with the above comments; you ought to spend some time on Wikipedia before applying for admin. You may find you don't really want the job - admins usually spend a lot of time dealing with vandalism and disputes.--Kubigula (talk) 04:27, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Ditto. My first edit here was in 2003, although I've only been editing in earnest since 9/2004. (Albeit at a relatively low intensity on average, with only about 3300 edits to articles.) I am not an admin and I don't want to be. Put a few admins' user pages on your watchlist and see the kind of garbage they have to put up with. You'll probably think twice about it once you do. TCC (talk) (contribs) 05:06, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

areas that may be of interest

Wikipedia communtiy has created a number of policies and guidelines to help editors create articles or resolve disputes some of the ones I recommend you read are WP:COI WP:RS WP:N and WP:NOT these will come up when ever you edit article about yourself or your company, the ideal principle is to let other editors create them. To be successful with a future RFA editors like to see involvement within community(wikipedia space) areas like WP:AFD, WP:RFA, WP:RFC also project groups like WP:AMA and WP:FAC. These will also help you learn policies and guidelines as well as become known by the community. If at anytime you need help just drop a note on my talk page Gnangarra 04:15, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Adminship and stuff

Thank you very much, but I think I already said I have no desire for it above in the comments about your own RFA. I was perfectly sincere. It's more a chore and a nuisance than anything else. The "mop and bucket" metaphor is very apt.

By the way, the convention is for new threads to go at the bottom of talk pages. You can do this easily by using the "+" link next to "edit this page". You get a form with a separate area for the new header. Header and text are automatically added to the bottom of the talk page when you save.

I know you meant well, but it's unnecessary to make adjustments to my archives.

And yes, the fair use tags on your logos are appropriate if you don't want to use a free license. Just be aware that they're likely to get tagged for deletion by a bot unless they're actually used in an article, and you'll need to add rationale above and beyond that listed in the tag per Help:Image page#Fair_use_rationale. (The reason for this is that the legality of fair use depends on the context. An unused image cannot really be fair use.) If you decide to use them in a user page it might ruffle some feathers since fair use cannot normally be applied in those cases either. Of course, it's not usual for a user to own an image tagged as fair use.

I know this has all seemed like a lot of bother, but it's the kind of thing we have to worry about to be consistent with the goals of the project. And it's not that bad once you get used to it. TCC (talk) (contribs) 02:15, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

More logos

I had already commented on this in the section above. These are fair use tags and must be used accordingly as I explained. TCC (talk) (contribs) 07:25, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Orphaned fair use image (Image:GRAM Logo.gif)

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Orphaned fair use image (Image:Rumor Productions Logo.gif)

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Orphaned fair use image (Image:GRAM Games Logo.gif)

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A tag has been placed on GRAM Productions, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article seems to be blatant advertising which only promotes a company, product, group or service and which would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an encyclopedia article. Please read the general criteria for speedy deletion, particularly item 11, as well as the guidelines on spam.

If you can indicate why the subject of this article is not blatant advertising, you may contest the tagging. To do this, please add {{hangon}} on the top of the page and leave a note on the article's talk page explaining your position. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would help make it encyclopedic, as well as adding any citations from reliable sources to ensure that the article will be verifiable. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. Mhking 02:28, 26 February 2007 (UTC)