Talk:Ryan Wieber

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[edit] The importance of the article

I just thought I'd mention that Ryan Wieber represents a breakthrough in fan film making, and I think this article is significant enough to stay.

If you don't believe me, go watch a bunch of Star Wars fan films, and then look at Wieber's "RvD" or "Alternate Lightsaber Duel" and you will see that he is truly an elite artist, at least in the field of fan films.

I have removed the "of questionable importance" tag.

--Pmerrill 21:00, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] NPOV

This whole article extensively violates NPOV. I've nominated it for a check. Willpower 23:25, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Extensively? Well...I've removed two or three adjectives (legendary, etc) and I think its neutral now. At any rate, thanks for the heads up. Let me know about any specific complaints you may have about the article. Perhaps you think that the quality of Wieber's special effects could be argued? If this is the case, his special effects can be labeled as professional quality because Wieber was hired by one of the biggest names around for the quality of his amateur film. So it's really not an opinion, it's fact - Wieber's films contain professional quality special effects. --141.157.123.182 00:42, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

I'm not arguing that Wieber's special effects are below par, which they most certainly aren't, but to my knowledge you can't rate the quality of special effects or such on Wikipedia without specifying sources. Like this sentence which still remains:

"While lightsaber duels were commonplace on the internet Ryan vs. Dorkman was heralded as one of the most amazing duels ever produced due to the lightsaber effects, which were comparable to the visual effects created by Industrial Light and Magic"

which is an good example of a weasel word. If someone can quote an outside article saying this then I'd be fine with it. Willpower 23:56, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Ah. I didn't write that part ;-). I'll see what I can find.