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Somebody added some chart info, but it was absolutely UNINTELLIGIBLE. Umm, were you even SOBER? I'll clean it up. : P

Okay, this is serious... WHAT THE HELL!? "Supermodel" hit #1 in the UK, according to some contributor. I searched google and couldn't find any proof - I'm absolutely shocked if it really did. WE'll leave it for now, because it looks rather pretty. : P UPDATE: And according to the list of UK number ones on wikipedia, it never did.

.... so it must have been some kind of club chart. If it is, we need that specified.


Does anybody know why the image link isn't working?

Does anyone know whether RuPaul prefers to use masculine or feminine pronouns? If RuPaul prefers to be called "she" (as some drag queens and nearly all MtF transgendered people do), it would be very rude to use "he". Anyone have any info? - user:Montrealais

Looks like "he" is fine.
Someone once asked him on a TV show I saw which pronoun he preferred, and he answered, "You can call me he, you can call me she, you can call me Regis and Kathie Lee!" so I think he doesn't mind one way or the other. Angr/talk 14:21, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Does the term transgendered exclusively mean transexual? I thought transgendered was an umbrella term, which includes drag queens.

It's confusing. RuPaul is a gay man who sometimes dresses like a woman, ie: a drag queen. "Transgendered" is just confusing in this article. Exploding Boy 07:05, Mar 12, 2004 (UTC)
Transvestite and transgender are entirely separate things. A drag queen is the former, while only a person with a sex-change operation is the latter. –radiojon 03:47, 2004 Apr 11 (UTC)
That is not correct. Transgenderism has nothing to do with a sex change operation. The term is intended to include ALL individuals who live outside of traditionally accepted gender roles. For instance, famous murder victim Brandon Teena, who was a lesbian living as a male (but who had no type of sex change operation,) was a transgendered person. So are drag queens, drag kings, cross dressers, etc... Ergo, to use an analogy: all transvestites are transgendered, but not all transgenders are transvestites. Pacian 02:09, 10 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Yes, I would suggest reading the wikipedia articles, and reading elsewhere, on transvestite and transgender. Hyacinth 04:27, 10 Sep 2004 (UTC)
I would switch him to "gay actors". A transgendered person identifies as a member of the sex they were not born. (This does not necessarilly mean they've had a sex change, though. Dil in The Crying Game was transgendered.) However, I believe RuPaul identifies as a man and mearly dresses as a woman.
Is RuPaul actually gay, though? I haven't seen actual direct evidence in which he said that he is gay. --Nlu 23:10, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
  • While refering to Rupaul you should say "she" when refering to anytime he is in drag. When refering to childhood or personal life you can use he. --BrenDJ 20:29, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Gay Icon Project

In my effort to merge the now-deleted list from the article Gay icon to the Gay icons category, I have added this page to the category. I engaged in this effort as a "human script", adding everyone from the list to the category, bypassing the fact-checking stage. That is what I am relying on you to do. Please check the article Gay icon and make a judgment as to whether this person or group fits the category. By distributing this task from the regular editors of one article to the regular editors of several articles, I believe that the task of fact-checking this information can be expedited. Thank you very much. Philwelch 20:18, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Jonathan Ross birthday

I reverted this bit:

"As the British writer Tony Barrell has pointed out (London Sunday Times, November 17, 2005), RuPaul was born on exactly the same day as the British broadcaster Jonathan Ross."

This isn't a "this day in history" article, so there's no need for this kind of information. --BrianSmithson 17:31, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

The transitive use of the intransitive verb "revert" above ("I reverted this bit") is patently a solecism - ie, poor English. Is English not Mr Smithson's first language?

[edit] Always wondered...

Does anyone know if RuPaul had breast implants? Or is that all smoke and mirrors done with pecs, some pushing around, and a little drawn in contours with make-up? Any time I've seen RuPaul as a man, it didn't seem like there was anything there... but maybe he tapes it down if he's going out as a man? I don't know... (Corby 00:22, 16 March 2006 (UTC))

He's a fully functioning, "normal" male. (physically) The "breasts" you see (when they're exposed) are most likely form-fitting "molds" in the shape of... breasts. When his "breasts" are under fabric, it's most likely a much simpler case of boob simulation. Color and creases can be matched with makeup competely, too! It's amazing what some people can do.

[edit] Article gender viewpoint

The free and easy mixing of using both "he" and "she" to refer to RuPaul, even within the same sentence, is most disconcerting. Example:

"In 1996, she landed a talk show on VH1, appropriately called The RuPaul Show, where he interviewed celebrity guests and musical acts."

I think we should choose one and use it consistently. At least within the same sentence. The previous advice about using "she" when referring to performances in drag and "he" when referring to personal life is too obscure, we can't expect people to know the difference when reading the article. My vote is to use "he" consistently since RuPaul is not continuously in drag.

Elronxenu 10:57, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Yes, it does become very difficult to read. My advice would be to use 'he' exclusively throughout the article. For the sake of making the article readable, it's not being offensive to the LGBT crowd. - Richardcavell 23:57, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
Sorry kids, it's very offensive. Most transgendered persons prefer the gendered pronoun that suits the way they currently gender themselves. In many situations this is a little more cut and dry - people who habitually assume the gender opposite to their biology will also assume an appopriate pronoun. RuPaul, on the other hand, is a drag personality. She is sometimes male and sometimes female. But in the interest that this article is about the personality that made her famous, the appropriate pronoun to use is the feminine. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 205.211.168.15 (talk) 21:34, 15 January 2007 (UTC).
I don't find it offensive at all to use 'he' or interchangeably use he or she. If you're confused, look at the title of the article every time and remind yourself you're reading about RuPaul. Then you'll get it. Confused? See title. Huh? Look at title. MAke sense? And RuPaul is not transgendered, but a drag personality. NYDCSP 11:10, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] How tall?

How tall is RuPaul? I've thought about becoming a drag performer as I'd enjoy dressing up in glamourous clothes, but I'm tall even for a man. I think I heard on a chat show interview he did once that he's really tall, which makes me feel a lot better!

According to some internet research that I've done, RuPaul is about 6'2". Hope this helps :) Coredumperror 10:41, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

However with a wig (up to 1 ft.), heels (~6in.) and other draq acessories it can make someone appear taller than they really are. BrenDJ 03:29, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

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