Talk:Rule of Three (Wiccan)
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[edit] Rule of four?
The rule of four link in the "See Also" section seems unrelated to me. If nobody disagrees with that, I'm going to remove the link from the See Also section soon. --dionyziz 00:54, 13 August 2005 (UTC).
- Removed. --dionyziz 21:14, 16 August 2005 (UTC).
[edit] Fluctuations in the Law
Now, this is based off of information that I heard from a source I find to be personally reliable, but haven't read anywhere. 3 is the universal constant, however the Earth itself in recent years has upped the factor to 10 for beings on this planet as a defense mechanism. Is there any information on this out there, and if so can it be added in?
KV 06:51, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
- Let me speak as a witch briefly, rather than as a scholar. The three-fold law is very subjective, in a couple of different senses. First, it doesn't come from traditional Wicca, being Ray Buckland's subjective innovation. Second, the actual way this "pay-back" operates varies from person to person and situation to situation. The three-fold law is generally understood in a similar manner to the simplistic understanding of Karma, i.e. there's some cosmic bank-account or some force that reflects things back at the sender.
- Now to understand this more realistically, lets forget for a minute any idea of a causal relationship between your actions and the things that happen to you. One does not cause the other. Yet there is a relationship between them. how so? It's simple: one's actions and one's experiences are both influenced by one's state of consciousness, level of understanding, self-delusions, etc. If you are self-deluded in a way that causes certain misbehaviour, this same self-delusion will attract various unpleasant occurrences to you. The forms that the bad behaviour and the unpleasant experiences take can often be ironically similar, since they stem from a single root cause. This means that if you sort things out at the root cause you won't necessarily have to "pay" for all your past infractions.
- There are certain other factors in play here that can make the whole effect work a bit more like a straight "reflection": for instance, the psychological process of guilt can unconsciously help make the "payback" mirror the "action". Also when you're dealing with other people who might hold grudges, "payback" can become a much simpler concept.
- The exact proportion of "payback" to "action" varies. For some people I would guess they get back less than they put out; however for witches and magicians the level of payback can be very large, well over 3 times, perhaps over 30 times in some situations. Just think: we devote our lives to developing power, and accumulating it around ourselves. This power needs to be volatile enough that we can cause dramatic changes to occur just by clicking our fingers. So if we have built up this volatile energy around ourselves and then misuse it, it can completely blow up in our faces.
- Having said that, don't worry too much. If your intentions are good you should be fine. We all need to make a few mistakes :)
- Anyway, this could have some bearing on the "3-fold" being upped to "10-fold". As we become more spiritually aware, and particularly as we become more technologically advanced, our ability to do ourselves major harm through misuse increases. (I hope this ramble of mine isn't a terrible abuse of the discussion page). Fuzzypeg 04:05, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
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- The three fold law violates the law of Thermodynamics. Its a crock. I'm still awaiting for my cup of coffee to be three times hotter than it was after I boiled it!!!!!!
