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[edit] Azarbaijan (Iran)
Hi. With regard to your edit to Azarbaijan (Iran), I just wanted to note that there is no formal conflict between Iranian government and other countries with regard to the name of South Azerbaijan. This name is often used by the authoritative sources, such as encyclopedia Iranica, therefore it is notable enough to be included. But there’s no official naming dispute, and recognition of the name by UNO is not required, since it’s a part of the territory of Iran and not an independent state. I suggest we restore the previous version, because currently it looks like there’s an international dispute, while in fact there’s not. Regards, Grandmaster 10:32, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] As an Azari
Can you please add your voice tot he dicussion on Azari people. I have told users such as Grandmaster that in Iran the population refers to itself as Azari and not Azeri he rules this out as nationalistic POV. The article is biased with a northern perspective. Even the pictures are unfair. When editors tried to put picures of individuals that are Azari and well known across the world like Googoosh they were deleted. We had to fight just to have Shah Ismail's picture on. Come contrinute to Azari and be proactive on the discussion page. 72.57.230.179
[edit] The term Azari and Azarbiajn are correct and formal
This is the term officialy used by Iran in much of its English correspondance and by other countries such as Greece. user:Grandmaster might want to look at this. It will shatter the fiction history that the Republic of Azarbijan and Turkey are trying to force on Iranians. Just like how Turkey tried to force Kurds to accpet a falsified history and ethnicity as Mountain Turks. http://www.iranian.com/Opinion/2002/October/Azari/index.html 72.57.230.179
[edit] "Here is scientific proof that says Azeris are not Turks: You can argue with people but not science"
Azeris are mixed of Armeno-Iranian heritage:
Testing hypotheses of language replacement in the Caucasus: evidence from the Y-chromosome
- Nasidze I, Sarkisian T, Kerimov A, Stoneking M.
Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology, Inselstrasse 22, 04103, Leipzig, Germany. nasidze@eva.mpg.de
A previous analysis of mtDNA variation in the Caucasus found that Indo-European-speaking Armenians and Turkic-speaking Azerbaijanians were more closely related genetically to other Caucasus populations (who speak Caucasian languages) than to other Indo-European or Turkic groups, respectively. Armenian and Azerbaijanian therefore represent language replacements, possibly via elite dominance involving primarily male migrants, in which case genetic relationships of Armenians and Azerbaijanians based on the Y-chromosome should more closely reflect their linguistic relationships. We therefore analyzed 11 bi-allelic Y-chromosome markers in 389 males from eight populations, representing all major linguistic groups in the Caucasus. As with the mtDNA study, based on the Y-chromosome Armenians and Azerbaijanians are more closely-related genetically to their geographic neighbors in the Caucasus than to their linguistic neighbors elsewhere.
So, both the mtDNA (female line) and the Y-chromosomes (from father to son) seem to prove the fact, that modern Azeris are predominantly Turkic-speaking Armenians and Iranians. Their DNA has Europeana and Middle Eastern traces, but not Eastern Asian ones , which one would assume if they really were Turks.
[edit] Your work on Nizami was Great
Keep an eye on all the Azari related articles. Please take a look at Shah Ismail. As you know Pan-Turkists try and say he was a Turk who took over Iran instead of he was the King of Iran.
This was written[1] and this was the response [2].
Here is the translation: How are you. To soon to give a complicated comment. These protests have been forming a long time coming and they are ripening, this wan not and necessary the only occasion, so that it would splash out to the streets. The basic problem is the fact that they [Iran?/Persians? I don't know who, but he says they] reject tp the Azaris the right to thei national identity, the right to the development of their own language and distinct culture. You can see even here, in the consideration of articles, Iranian Azarbaijan and Azarbaijanians. Some Iranian participants insist on saying Azaris are an Iranian ethnicity, although it is widely-known that Azaris are Turkic. This is what is being represented or occuring in Iran itself. Conflict apparently on this basis, people [Azaris] require the protection of their cultural rights.
These is only the tip of the ice berg. B y the way this shows that there is pre-existing biased in certain edits. 72.57.230.179
[edit] When are we Going to See Proof that Azaris are Genetically Turkic
Please keep an eye on Azari and the talk:Azari. I have started the following in the discussion.
It has been ages since these citations have not been verified. Verification is needed. If not delete the material. the amount of time granted has been generious. The Azaris Iranian background has been verified through various scientific and academic sources, but the Turkic claim has not. The only think that has been verified is the Turkic langauge. 72.57.230.179
[edit] Jewish personalities
Hi. I notice you've been rm the Jewish category for several people. As it's pretty obvious in most cases (like on their own websites), I'd ask if you could just do a little checking before rving. Makgraf 02:28, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
- Sry that was sloppy of me, I didn't have a lot of time to rv your changes. I'm curious though you know that there was a citation that he was of Jewish background (because of his brother) yet you still rved it. Makgraf 04:29, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
