Talk:Royal Australasian Ornithologists Union
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This article is probably less important than Birds Australia, since that is the RAOU's new name. --VivaEmilyDavies 03:50, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- That depends - if someone is prepared to write up the importance of 'The Emu' and the earlier stages of the RAOU within the Australian Scientific establishments and society, then it is worth a stand alon status. If no one comes up with the goods, it is an obvious candidate for a merge, and again the lack of historical understanding in wiki strikes again!!SatuSuro 02:14, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
I have made a couple of minor edits to the article so far. I agree that it needs much more material on the history. I feel that because the RAOU remains the legal name of what may now be more commonly called Birds Australia, that this should remain the main article and that 'Birds Australia' be merged into it, with a redirect added. Maias 05:40, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
Broome and Eyre Observatories details and History need to be in or the West Aust branch detail at some stage SatuSuro 12:24, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
- True. I am adding stuff bit by bit and will get round to it eventually. But quite possibly you know more about RAOU in WA than I do. Maias 13:39, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
I intend to go ahead with this merge proposal in the near future on the grounds that RAOU is the legal and fundamental title of the organisation. If there is further argument please comment. Maias 13:01, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
PLEASE DO! They need to join SatuSuro 13:09, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
Note the changed merge tags suggest the debate is here, not at Talk:Birds Australia where it was. Please keep further debate there, but I fully support the merge as now proposed. --Bduke 00:31, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
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- A possible good comparison for the 20's and 30's was the Noisy Scrub Bird and Duke of Edinburgh issue in the 1960s (?)- I dont know if that was RAOU or one of the other groups herer in Perth at the time SatuSuro 05:25, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
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- The rediscovery of the Noisy Scrub-bird was in December 1961. However, the gazetting of the reserve did not take place until 1967. Libby Robin, in The Flight of the Emu, mentions that this took place following pressure from 'local, national and international conservationists, including the Duke of Edinburgh'. Since the Duke was then (and still is) the Patron of the RAOU, it would seem quite possible that his intervention was due to a direct request to him from the RAOU. However, I do not have any documentary evidence of this - though I have not yet gone through the Emus of the time. It is an interesting point. Maias 00:46, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
- The State Ref Library online cat has 9 entries about noisy scrub bird - no notes though. I think from memory (!) he [DoE] was here for the Commonwelth Games here in Perth - and someone took him down to have a look. His comments were carried in the local press, either west australian or sunday times. Will try to work out his times in Perth/WA later, will take time :) SatuSuro 01:14, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
There has been no objection to merging Birds Australia into Royal Australasian Ornithologists Union, so I have gone ahead with the merge. Maias 03:34, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Failed GA
I failed this for one big reason: no inline references. Before this article can be considered again (and I think it could use more and better pictures), that has to be taken care of. Daniel Case 13:51, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Merge from AWSG proposal
Oppose. Although the AWSG is a special interest group of the RAOU, it is largely independently run, publishes its own journal, has a very separate identity and is notable in its own right. Moreover, RAOU is already quite a lengthy article and, although AWSG is currently tagged as a stub, there is plenty more that could be said about it. For example, the series of NW Australia wader expeditions, that has been carried out under AWSG authority approximately annually for around 25 years, could well deserve a lengthy article on its own. RAOU is not only a notable organisation but a complex and diverse one; trying to lump all its related activities into one article would make it cumbersome and inevitably, down the road, lead to proposals for splitting. The same argument applies to to merge proposals from other special interest groups.Maias 07:44, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
