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Please do not change the SVG images to PNG images. I've used rollback to fix this. Thanks . --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 19:07, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image copyright problem with Image:At_Grade_Clover.jpg

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Fyi, I put a "screenshot" license on this image. lensovet 23:58, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

They won't allow that apparently... Route 82 15:11, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Images

Thanks for contributing your photos of road signs. As for the aerial photo and maps, the copyright for those is owned by the company that took the photos and the map company; thus those are not free enough for Wikipedia, and will have to be deleted. --SPUI (T - C) 00:28, 6 June 2006 (UTC)


I took them from Google Maps, and Windows Live Local...

took them and put them together, making a new image... they are technically no longer the same images I found online, so I see no reason why it can't be posted.

They are derivative works of copyrighted works, and are thus themself copyright-encumbered. --SPUI (T - C) 15:49, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Finding 600-series routes

Hello, Just wanted to give you a tip on getting to those 600-series routes. If you go on this page on the NJDOT website, you can download a Straight Line Diagrams packet for Ocean county. You can then use the diagrams to create articles and also find the routes themselves (as well as take photos and see if there is any signage confirming their existense - it appears that Ocean County doesn't have that many 600-series routes in the first place). Good luck and welcome to Wiki! lensovet 04:44, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 600-series edits

Hi again, just wanted to ask you a small favor - please do keep the references in the article! They provide a way for other people to verify what we have written so that our work is not just stuff we made up. Thanks! lensovet 05:41, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

(Route 82) They will see them at the bottom of the page, with all the numbers by the names it just looks very crowded...

The reason they appear at the bottom is because they are cited in the article itself. If you remove the references from the article the numbers at the bottom go away too. Btw, you can sign your comments by typing four "~" characters in succession. lensovet 06:34, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Route 18 (New Jersey) maintenance tag removal

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[edit] 422 "just west of Valley Forge"

I'm disputing the location you specify for this image. See associated talk page.--J Clear 21:41, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

This image is west of Valley Forge but I was being more general when I meant that... It is near Pottstown, but I figured Valley Forge would be easier for people to locate when trying to pinpoint where this would be... I relabeled it anyways...Route 82 16:25, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Question about Route 18 image

Hi there. You put Image:Route 18.jpg on the Route 18 (New Jersey) article, saying, "This was taken from a recently made PDF map, and shows that NJDOT has not completely given up on Route 18." I'm wondering how recently that PDF map was made, and if you could cite exactly where you got it from. The reason I ask is that its inclusion in the Route 18 article contradicts the plans to turn the southern alignment into a bike trail, and those plans have been in progress since 2003. -- Northenglish (talk) -- 00:03, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

I just added the link to the map that shows the proposed extension on the Route 18 page...Route 82 16:26, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jack Plotnick

Hey, I am sorry about removing one of those pictures. I did delete one because when I went to edit the article, there were more pictures than text. There's something about that article where the pictures and column headings aren't formatting right, and I am not familiar enough with how the photos work to figure out what's wrong. It wasn't a pornographic image at all (in fact, it was a cool picture) but usually articles with three pictures have a LOT more text. Feel free to add it back if you like. NickBurns 21:19, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Using NJDOT materials

Hey man, just wanted to give you a heads-up. From NJDOT's legal page, The Department of Transportation has made the content of these pages available to the public and anyone may view, copy or distribute department information found here without obligation to the department, unless otherwise stated on particular material or information to which a restriction on free use may apply.
This means that on images that are just a copy of their work (i.e. you did not do anything to it other than copy/paste it, etc), you can use {{PD-release}} on the images.
If you do something with their work, i.e. add additional labels or something on the image, then you can release the work under a free license of your choice, i.e. {{cc-by-sa-2.5}} or something similar.
Also consider uploading these guys to the Wikimedia Commons instead of the English wiki. lensovet 22:39, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

I've created {{NJDOT}} for this, as it's not quite public domain. Can you add the URL from which you got each image? --SPUI (T - C) 09:58, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
You sure that they are actually "copyrighted"? For example, the county route designation maps don't have any copyright designations on them. lensovet 21:18, 17 July 2006 (UTC), right I forgot, US law technically doesn't allow you to "release" anything into the public domain. lensovet 19:39, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Either way, they are free to use by the NJDOT... let's just leave it at that... Route 82 05:22, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Route 18.jpg

Just wanted to give you a heads-up, I nominated your Route 18 NJDOT map for speedy deletion, because I've put a higher-resolution PNG version of the same map on the Commons. So nothing personal, just a little housecleaning :) lensovet 19:39, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

ok whatever...Route 82 20:04, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

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The image is a colored pencil drawing made by myself... I figured just saying I created it in the PD was enough...

I added in the text description that I drew it... Route 82 00:45, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Moved stuff from userpage

Is alll those shields acceptable on the US Route 130 page? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Nextbarker (talk • contribs).

[edit] Infobox_road template standards

I have added a discussion thread at WT:NJSCR to address standards for NJ road infoboxes and invite your participation. Over the past several weeks, we have made tremendous progress in cleaning up the articles for the State highways in New Jersey, especially with the expansion and addition of infoboxes to most of these articles. However, there seems to be a great deal of confusion as to what should be going in these infoboxes. I am creating this thread and inviting those users who have been active participants in editing these pages to come up with a mutually agreeable answer on the issues listed. I will take on the task of moderating this discussion, but I will add my 2 cents on these topics. We can add more questions if needed, but please, be civil. Alansohn 23:39, 22 August 2006 (UTC)


Sure... how do we go about discussing this?

I certainly hate when a certain someone changes the things I do... so coming to a general consensus is fine by me... just let me how and when we'll discuss this... Route 82 05:10, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your edits to Interstate 587

In your recent edits to Interstate 587, you removed information from the infobox and created an infobox redirect. For the record "Routeboxint" is a redirect to "Infobox Interstate" and thus, the latter should be used. --TMF T - C 20:54, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Route 33 edits

Hi there. I noticed you've been adding info to the "Future improvements" section of Route 33 (New Jersey). I was hoping you could provide sources for your information, as much of it seems to be speculation. -- NORTH talk 15:31, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

All sources have been added, but if you really questioned the validity of my submissions, all you had to do was type into Google and you would have found the same things I did just as easily. Route 82 16:30, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

It's not my responsibility to find sources for information you add. -- NORTH talk 16:33, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

I am not familiar with how to reference yet... I have seen it done, but haven't duplicated it properly yet. And if you wanted me to quote my sources, then you could have just asked me to, instead of saying that it was "speculation" as if I was lying about it.

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[edit] Your edits to Route 364 (Missouri)

Please do not remove [citation needed] tags without providing a reliable source. You should also read Help:Show preview to avoid making eight minor edits in a row. Thank you. --NE2 16:57, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

I provided a source at the bottom as an external link... Route 82 17:06, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

That was not a reliable source, and does not even support the assertion: "Due to the numbering of Missouri 364, it is possible that once the road is completed, it might become part of the Interstate Highway System. However, no official plans for that are currently in place." --NE2 17:44, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

The same applies to your edits to Route 755. How do you know Route 755 was to be Interstate 755? --NE2 19:31, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Are you like sitting in front of your pc just waiting for someone to make an edit? it's like you have nothing else to do... I have labeled 755 as not a proposed interstate, but an unbuilt one. Even if it had been built as MO 755, as a freeway it is likely it would have become an interstate had it been built. The same goes for 364, it is not an interstate yet, but given it's planned future it seems very likely it will be. I feel that it is worth mentioning in the article, as long as it is made clear that it is not currently an interstate. Route 82 19:39, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Please read Wikipedia:no original research and Wikipedia:reliable sources, as well as Wikipedia:civility. --NE2 20:42, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Re: New Jersey Route 60

Yes, I removed that link because it was unencyclopedic. Please read Wikipedia:External links. We don't link to fan fiction on the Harry Potter articles, nor do we link to fan fiction on the road articles. -- NORTH talk 19:40, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Please read Wikipedia:No original research. Your map is original research, based on how you think Route 60 would have been built. --NE2 00:45, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

What is wrong with having that map up??? It has been stated that Route 60 would have multiplexed with Route 55 in Vineland... I drew the most logical position it would have taken... there is nothing wrong with having that concept image displayed... Route 82 00:50, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Your map assumes the location of the road, its interchanges, and its exit numbers. Unless you have a reliable source that includes these, the map is original research. --NE2 00:53, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

And what about this map??

This surely has proposed highways on it that don't exist...Route 82 17:15, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

I don't see anything wrong with that map, given its scale. Yours gets into way too much detail. --NE2 21:14, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

So then if I draw my represntation of Route 60 & 55 as simple as this map... then it can stay?? Route 82 17:02, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Probably. It would be best if you cited a source - do any of the planning maps at phillyroads show it? --NE2 18:00, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

No.. but I'm sure not all of the highways on that Cleveland map are taken from another map source... some are probably elaborated on... Route 82 00:23, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

I wouldn't know, since I didn't make the map. But proposed Interstates typically had more planning than random state highways. --NE2 00:55, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

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You have uploaded many other maps that could be replaced by drawings, and are missing copyright holder information and proper fair use rationales. There are too many to list here. Jkelly 01:31, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] References

It's not that hard. Template:cite web has all the instructions you need. -- NORTH talk 21:52, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

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