Talk:Ronald David Laing

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[edit] Axel Jensen

The newly added bit about Axel Jensen seems like a stuck-on fact that doesn't contribute anything important to understanding Laing and seems out of balance in his short biography. Seems to me like it should be taken out. What's the argument for keeping it in? Jeremy J. Shapiro 07:32, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

The argument could be that they were very close friends and that Axel Jensen mentions 'Ronny' in several of his books. Also Laing and Kingsley Hall is mentioned in the biography of Axel Jensen as a great help for him in a period of depression. Perhaps this fact could be added to the biography part, self-motivating its presence? We could also presume that the short biography of Laing will be lengthened subsequently, and that this merely is a part of a final result.--Profero 12:53, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Demons

To me it makes no sense to have a wikilink to the word "demon". "Demon" is used here as a metaphor, and probably should not be used in an encyclopedia to refer to psychological or other personal problems, it's more of a literary and colloquial term. Since the demon article doesn't even discuss the personal problems listed here for Laing, and since there's no quotation from Laing indicating that he thought of these things as demons such that a link to the demon article would be appropriate, there's no justification for the link. I think I will change the article to something like "personal problems" to eliminate this problem. Jeremy J. Shapiro 19:07, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Pov sentence

I changed self-reference and this clearly pov sentence:

He fails, however to get to the bottom of the problem and find a way out for his patients. Freud, by comparison, recognises the repressive effect of society, especially in his later works like 'Civilization and Its Discontents', but seeks to strengthen the patient's ability to cope with this. Neither of these men appeared willing to tackle the issue of good and bad family, or society, nexus.

Cesar Tort 00:34, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Psychiatric diagnosis

I added material on Laing's view of the psychiatric diagnosis, content of which I took from his "The Politics of the Family and Other Essays." Laing defined the medical model as "that set of procedures in which all doctors are trained." I am implying that the popular shibboleth that mental illness is just like any other disease is a logical fallacy, because it isn't diagnosed in the same manner as other diseases, although I realize that this is comparable to saying that a bloody knife inadmissible as evidence is no longer a bloody knife. 138.162.128.43 12:44, 16 March 2007 (UTC).

[edit] in See also

At present, the article reads: 'Mary Barnes - Famous schizophrenic who wrote a book on her experiences with '
With what? Sorry, forgot to sign. --Shirt58 12:22, 2 November 2006 (UTC)