Talk:Roma minority in Romania

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Please make rroma minority in Romania redirect here. I don't know how te make it myself. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 195.7.7.4 (talk • contribs) 21:14, 5 November 2006.

Done. In the future see Help:Redirect. Khoikhoi 23:18, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Terminology

I think the text:

"The spelling "rromi" (with a double "r") is also sometimes used in order to distinguish them from Romanians (români). This spelling does not, however, have any etymological grounding, even though it is preferred by some Roma groups."

should be changed, as rrom means men in rromani language. The site of romanian rroma community states that, and the Rroma-Romanian dictionary

[edit] Some inadequacies

• though “unofficial sources” are mentioned in the article, no explicit source is given for the claim of a 2 million population
• the spelling "rromi" (with a double "r") is used predominantly, not only sometimes as the article alleges
• asserting that the reason of the double r-spelling in “rrom” is “to distinguish them from Romanians (români).” is a very hazardous speculation. Please add sources.
• the allegation “This spelling does not, however, have any etymological grounding” needs badly be backed by sources
• in Romanian, unlike in English or German, the term ţigan is not necessary derogatory. Moreover, it is accepted as exonym by nearly every …ţigan
• the section "Integration in Romanian society" is biased and ignores several facets of the discrimination faced by Roma people in Romania.
• the pejorative meaning of the “ţigan” resides mostly in the… eyes of the observer

--Vintila Barbu 16:41, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] minor changes

I've tried to improve the integration chapter that looked biased and unfounded. It still could use some reliable sociologic data. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 193.231.67.1 (talk) 10:01, 28 December 2006 (UTC).

I also have re-worked the integration portion to neutralize obvious bias against Roma. I've tried to convey some of the feelings of the original piece, but without the misinformation and hatespeech. I think it's now easier to see a couple different points of view and understand reality on the ground. - A non-Romanian living in Romania