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[edit] Occitan
Occitan should be on the Ibero-Romance branch of the Latin-descended family tree of languages; along with Catalá, Español & Português, not on the Gallo-Romance branch with Français. Al-Andalus 03:44, 26 July 2005 (UTC).
Are you really sure about that? IMO Catalan should rather be in the Gallo-Romance group. My impression is that, that there is no scientific consensus about it. Aaker 22:06, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Dates
I've moved this comment to the discussion page: Lio 07:05, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
- You know what would be a FANTASTIC edition to this flow-chart? Dates of the split. That would really put the evolution of Latin into the Romance languages into a whole new perspective. Thanks, sovereignz
[edit] Vulgar Latin
I thought Proto Romanian originated from Vulgar Latin. --Candide, or Optimism 10:55, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
- There was not such thing as a "universal" Vulgar Latin. The term "Vulgar Latin" refers to all the Latin dialects spoken across the Roman Empire. bogdan 11:02, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] The place of Dalmatian
This image seems to present one hypothesis. Dalmatian is generally grouped, not with Romanian, but with Italian. Alexander 007 14:12, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Horribly innacurate and oversimplified
Aside from the Dalmatian issue - it should be under Italo-Dalmatian, which would also include Tuscan (Italian), Corsican and the Romanesco dialects (Roman, Marchigiano and Umbrese). Further Sardinian should be under Southern Romance, which would also include the Sicilian and Neapolitan (thus 'continental Romance' is quite a misnomer, and a term I've never heard before, generally the three top branches are Eastern, Western and Southern).
On top of this, Occitan and Catalan should be under a separate family called Gallo-Iberian, under Gallo-Romance which should include not just the d'Oil languages (French), but also Arpitan/Franco-Provencal, the Gallo-Italic languages (Piemonteis, Lombardo, Liguru, Emiliano-Romagnol, Venessian) and the Gallo-Rhaetian languages (Ladin, Friulian and Rumansh).
Next Ibero-Romance should be in three groups - Galego-Portuguese, Asturo-Leonese and Castillian (Spanish). Finally there's another family - Pyrennean-Mozarabic, includes Aragones and Mozarabic dialects, but I cannot recall at this time where they fit in.
I've seen other Romance language trees like this that have most of the same innacuracies - especially the oversimplification of the languages of Italy and Spain into just 'Italian' and 'Spanish' except the high-profile ones like Sardinian and Catalan.
Seek100 00:53, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
