Talk:Rolling hitch

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[edit] Terminology for this knot throughout English speaking world?

In recent edits to this page I added the Naming Issues section. I decided stepping back and using a common reference like Ashley was the best way to avoid ambiguity, but I believe it is definitely useful to have as much information as possible about what names are used to refer to these knots in various locales. I've seen some vague indications (mostly on websites, rather than in knot books) that maybe Magnus/Magner's hitch may still be in semi-common usage outside the US to refer to the Rolling hitch. Could folks from UK/CA/AU/NZ/etc chime in with the current usage and/or add pertinent info to the naming section. If "Magnus hitch" to refer to the "Rolling hitch" has fallen out of common usage globally, I'm thinking that the Magnus Hitch (#1736) should have its own page rather than redirecting here as it currently does. Thoughts? --Dfred 03:24, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

I have reconsidered my initial idea about the Magnus hitch having its own page... And without any other comment, I have effectively consolidated all hitches commonly known as Rolling Hitch or Magnus Hitch on this single page with the intent to have all redirects point here. I'm doing the same on Taut-line hitch for the adjustable loop forms of these hitches. My rationale for this plan is to avoid splitting up the information and tying instructions for these closely related (and conflictingly named) hitches onto seperate pages since that would necessitate much duplication of explanation about the history and naming of these knots and would make comparison of the variations more difficult. This whole exercise, aspects of which are applicable to many other knots, has left me with some ideas for guidelines for the disambiguation/consolidation of knotting pages which I plan to summarize at Wikipedia:WikiProject Knots soon. --Dfred 03:57, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

For what it's worth, I think you're right to combine the two kidns of rolling hitch and the Magner's Hitch on this single page. And to answer your original question, I sail in the UK and have never heard the term "Magner's Hitch" outside of WIkipedia. PeteVerdon 02:36, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. "Magner's" is apparently an archaic (or maybe corrupted) form of "Magnus" and is mentioned in ABOK. My original worry was that #1734 and #1735 might still be referred to by the original name in some parts of the world, but covering it all in the same article lessens the problem. --Dfred 14:58, 11 March 2007 (UTC)