Talk:Roger Bacon
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[edit] Removing Arab embroidery
"He was intimately acquainted with the philosophical and scientific insights of the Arabic world, which was the most advanced civilization at the time." The is conjecture and unsubstantiated. He studied in English Universities and had no "intimate" acquaintance with the Arabic world.
You've made a leap of logic. The Arabic world isn't the equivalent of the Arabic world's philosophy and scientific insight. --Ceriel Nosforit 15:22, 2005 May 1 (UTC)
Actually Roger Bacon was intimately familiar with esoteric Arab knowledge, religious, scientific and otherwise. He lectured at Oxford wearing what would now be called Sufi robes. For more details on this and unimpeachable sources, see Idries Shah's "The Sufis", Octagon Press. --Kneeslasher 15:06, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
[edit] More...
Need More Information On Him!
[edit] Re:more
Never mind!
[edit] Scholasticism
This article is currently in Category:Scholastic philosophers, but as
- Bacon withdrew from the scholastic routine and devoted himself to languages and experimental research.
and
- He was an enthusiastic proponent and practician of the experimental method of acquiring knowledge about the world.
shouldn't he also belong to Category:Empiricists
- Yes. Done! —Aetheling 23:37, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
I checked out a huge book called Science, Its History and Development Among the World's Cultures, and it has some interesting info on Bacon's life that I think I'll add :) Blueaster 20:27, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Scholasticism (specifically on Aristotle)
Aristotle, though certainly not an empiricist, did at least try to derive science from the real world. Scholasticism relied on deduction from certain authorities (of whom Aristotle was one) whose claims were simply defined to be true—the real world had very little to do with it. In claiming that Bacon started to break from Scholasticism, I think we should careful not to also claim that he was breaking from Aristotle. —Ryan McDaniel 19:45, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Dated historiography
Much of this article still shows the influence of the outdated historiography of the 1911 Brittanica article. I've added a section on changing interpretations of Bacon that addresses the principle issues. Obviously, more changes still need to be done to the body of the article. --SteveMcCluskey 16:52, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
