Talk:Robert Willner

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[edit] Cause of death

I dug up the POZ magazine reference - it's brief, but does give the cause of death and a general time frame, and seems more reliable/detailed than Greenberg's website. MastCell 17:40, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations on your find. And you were right not to include the unreferenced word "unrelated". Since AIDS is IIUC more or less any of a bunch of diseases which become more likely due to the repression of your immune system, though some are more likely than others, i don't particularly see why heart disease is "unrelated" to AIDS.

In any case, while i think your reference is a little better than mine (since it comes from a magazine written by a bunch of people rather than what seems to be a single man "i-will-heal-you" type website), it's still rather unsatisfying. i think that for AIDS reappraisal supporters, it actually looks quite absurd. What was the point of this guy injecting himself (and for AIDS reappraisal supporters to talk about it) unless it was to show that you can do this and remain in good health for 10-20 years without taking any anti-HIV drugs? Virtually disappearing off the face of the internet sounds rather suspicious... Surely his death ought to have been a reasonably important news event and in order to support the dissidents' claims, it should have been rather important to present reasonably reliable evidence (e.g. a family member or a named doctor or other reasonably Notable Person making a statement quoted word-for-word and not rephrased or see WP:RS :) that his death had nothing to do with loss of immunity expected from AIDS. Anyway, if someone has more, fuller, more reliable references, please give them! Boud 23:08, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, it's ridiculous on a couple of levels. First, the transmissibility of HIV via needlestick is relatively low (~0.3% per incident), so there's a 99.7% chance he didn't infect himself with the needlestick. Not bad as a publicity stunt, but absolutely meaningless scientifically. MastCell 23:15, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] To Do: injection in Spain

Sorry, i didn't have time to add this - i saw in some places that the 28 Oct 1994 injection was not the first time he did this. The first time was in Spain according to some sources, AFAIR undated. Feel free to google and add the missing material with appropriate references... Boud 23:08, 14 January 2007 (UTC)