Talk:Robert Stewart, Viscount Castlereagh

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Stewart became the Marquess of Londonderry, but historically he is known as Lord Castlereagh. Using his highest title would give him an unrecognisable name. I have thus used his most commonly recognised title with his name. JtdIrL 19:49 Mar 6, 2003 (UTC)

I'm not sure that he ever succeeded to his father's title, did he? Deb 19:57 Mar 6, 2003 (UTC)

I'm not sure. I just followed what the article stated. JtdIrL 22:01 Mar 6, 2003 (UTC)

Yes, you're right, he was briefly Marquess. Some of the places I looked it up didn't mention it, and some had him down as being the son of the Second Marquess -- possibly because of the earl/marquess change. Deb 17:57 Mar 7, 2003 (UTC)

Hm... slight problem, perhaps. His father was also briefly 'Robert Stewart, Viscount Castlereagh' until he was created an earl. Do we just ignore this?Mintguy 23:27, 16 Aug 2003 (UTC)

I'll add a disambig soon. But I have a question: the article mentions that someone told Castlereagh to "consult a physician", and he committed suicide thereafter. Did he commit suicide because he was paranoid and thought "consult a physician" meant something else? Or did he commit suicide because he was insane? I can't really find the reasoning in that in the article, or maybe I'm just not looking hard enough... ugen64 16:28, Sep 11, 2004 (UTC)

In terms of the disambiguation, I don't think it's terribly important - his father was only known as Viscount Castlereagh for a year, between 1795 and 1796, when he became Earl of Londonderry. As to the latter part, Castlereagh was being blackmailed for supposedly being a homosexual. The "consult a physician" bit does not seemed to have caused his suicide. it was just the king's response to this news, which was hardly encouraging for Castlereagh. john k 16:37, 11 Sep 2004 (UTC)

I added that final para. IIRC no-one has ever been sure whether there really was a blackmailer ot whether it was in Castlereagh's head. I think perhaps that King was intending suggest that Castlereagh needed to seek medical advice because he thought that the blackmail was in Castlereagh's mind. Or pehaps the words were intended to suggest the Castlereagh consult a physician to "cure him" of homosexual tendencies, or perhaps the King just wanted to get rid of him and the response satistfied either situation. I don't have a citation for the quotes, I have to admit I read it on the web somewhere. Mintguy (T) 18:14, 11 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Contents 1 Leader of the Commons in 1821-22? 2 Page Move 3 The Most Honourable 4 -rah or -rey?

[edit] Leader of the Commons in 1821-22?

How could he have held the post for the last year of his life when he was in the House of Lords? (Technically as the Lord Stewart.) Timrollpickering 16:16, 5 Dec 2004 (UTC)

My mistake - Lord Stewart was his half-brother, the 3rd Marquess, who was already enobled during Castlereagh's lifetime. Timrollpickering 01:39, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Yup, yup. Old Charles Stewart was British ambassador to Prussia during the latter part of the Napoleonic Wars. john k 05:04, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Lord Londonderry was able to remain Leader of the House of Commons because he was an Irish peer, not a British one.

[edit] Page Move

General consensus has been that he should remain at Viscount Castlereagh, as that is how he is best known. So I have moved him back. john k 01:50, 29 Jan 2005 (UTC)

[edit] The Most Honourable

Pray tell, why can't the article begin with his style? Thesocialistesq 04:39, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] -rah or -rey?

How would one pronounce "Castlereagh"?

"Caa-sul-ray". Proteus (Talk) 15:19, 16 March 2006 (UTC)