Talk:RMS Caronia
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- Please could I have a second opinion on RMS Caronia - aleged copyvio text was commented out, then restored to the article as "widely published in the Public Domain". --rbrwr± 15:28, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- On the net, it's only published by [1] (which asserts copyright) and our mirrors. (Though I'm sure you already knew that.) The 1950 brochure mentioned in the article's current version is still under copyright unless it was explicitly released into PD, and in any event, no such brochure is mentioned in the site's bibliography. "RMS Caronia" has enough google hits that if it were public domain, I think it's reasonable to expect at least one other non-WP hit for specific phrases. —Korath (Talk) 16:06, Jan 2, 2005 (UTC)
- There's a reply on my talk page. —Korath (Talk) 08:32, Jan 7, 2005 (UTC)
- On the net, it's only published by [1] (which asserts copyright) and our mirrors. (Though I'm sure you already knew that.) The 1950 brochure mentioned in the article's current version is still under copyright unless it was explicitly released into PD, and in any event, no such brochure is mentioned in the site's bibliography. "RMS Caronia" has enough google hits that if it were public domain, I think it's reasonable to expect at least one other non-WP hit for specific phrases. —Korath (Talk) 16:06, Jan 2, 2005 (UTC)
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I'm not buying the argument that this is public domain. Removed as a copyright violation. -- Cyrius|✎ 03:26, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Cyrius, you could perhaps explain your reasoning - from Peter Stevens - the person who took the trouble to explain his reasoning! Please see (Talk)
- Copyright has been retroactively extended in both scope and duration. Virtually nothing published after January 1, 1923 is in the public domain unless explicitly placed there. -- Cyrius|✎ 06:57, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- ...and Cunard gave up any commercial interest in this material by donating their entire archive to the University of Liverpool - thereby cancelling any claim to Copyright - that action alone places their material into the public domain. (I've checked this with a Senior Librarian at our County Record Office) Peter_LT
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- A super-handy place to mention this important tidbit is at our very own Cunard Line, with citation of authority of course, thus forestalling future argument. Stan 23:52, 24 Feb 2005 (UTC)
