User talk:Rklawton

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[edit] Also not vandalism

You took out a properly-reference quote about academia. Was that because you disagreed with the point view expressed by it? If so, please add a balancing quote instead of "deleting well-referenced information". --Uncle Ed 18:58, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

My bad. It looked like vandalism until I dug deeper. I'll fix it if you haven't already. Rklawton 19:01, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
No worries, you can go ahead if you have time. Thanks! ^_^ --Uncle Ed 19:02, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User:D Dinneen

Re: Vandalism warning on talk page
Please refrain from repeatedly adding a vandalism warning to my talk page. I have not vandalised wikipedia, my account has been accessed by someone else, I have since secured it. Thankyou for the warning though, it is important that wikipedia is kept free from attacks by vandals, I have read the message carefully and do not need it to be there any further, thank you. D Dinneen 19:45, 20 November 2006

You might want to keep that notice up as a record in case it should happen again. Rklawton 19:49, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User:SnakeChess5

Re: I apologise, I did not realize what I was doing was vandalism. I was doing some research on Canada Geese and was looking at several sources for information (including Wikipedia) and notice that they all said different things, so I decided to average them out and edit the Wikipedia article to such an extent. I will try to be more careful.

[edit] User:Rklawton

Re: Your user page

While it might be acceptable to have a link to your place of work or something like that it is highly problematic to have a large fraction of your user page devoted to that. I am particularly concerned by your listing your prices. JoshuaZ 21:07, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Out of my whole user page, are you saying that a single bullet point line is a "large fraction"? I'd be very interested in seeing the policy about that! Rklawton 21:09, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
No. I suppose the perception of that was because you list all your photos which are on Wiki which at first glance (perhaps incorrectly) came across as almost being like a gallery of examples. Removal of the numbers should make things fine. JoshuaZ 21:14, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
Fine for what? You still haven't show that there exists any violation of policy. Rklawton 21:15, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
Well, it isn't in the current draft of WP:USERPAGE but I was under the impression that we generally discourage the use of user pages for commercial purposes. I'll go bring the issue up there on the talk page and we will hopefully get some input from others. JoshuaZ 21:20, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
One of the stated purposes of a user page is to let other users know who they are working with. A single line at the top of my page indicating my profession and rates does that very succinctly. Rklawton 21:34, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:WikiProject Days of the year

Re: Images on the date pages

To be honest, I don't feel strongly one way or the other about having images there, and as I was reverting them, I noticed a distinct U.S. slant to the choices (several shuttle missions, for example). My concern was that the user seemed to be running through all of the date pages indiscriminately yanking all of the images. I noticed what he was doing a while ago and let the first few go, but when he hit 10, the pattern started to bother me. And the reason he added to the last one doesn't strike me as reasonable; you can't have an image for everything, so if you have an image at all, it'll favour something. And there are iconic dates for which an image is appropriate (September 11 for 9/11; November 22 for the J.F.K. assassination, probably others. And, now that I look back, 9/11 was his first deletion. -- Jim Douglas (talk) (contribs) 03:25, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Days of the year#Images, revisited. So here's an interesting question -- do you know if anyone actually monitors that page? -- Jim Douglas (talk) (contribs) 04:23, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
There's three or four of us that do. Rklawton 04:56, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
It seems almost dead. User:Adxm asked User:CalendarWatcher why some fictional entries that he'd added to July 19 were reverted. I suggested that he ask about the overall guidelines on that page, which he did (Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Days of the year#Fictional events), but there was no response. -- Jim Douglas (talk) (contribs) 05:03, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
The page's history indicates reasonable activity. It's a pretty stable project. Rklawton 05:05, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:WikiProject Days of the year

Re: Sam Houston's election I thought we didn't typically include elections in date articles. How was this particular election especially notable?

And how many elections did the Republic of Texas have? Damned few, I reckon. --CalendarWatcher 03:42, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

So? How notable was the Republic of Texas in the first place? Not very, at least to anyone but a Texan. Rklawton 04:03, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Himbo

Re: Prod removal from Himbo

Unfortunately, any removal of a prod, for any or even no reason, prevents the article ever being prodded again. I've accordingly filed a regular AfD request on it instead. Seraphimblade 07:14, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll take a look. Rklawton 13:59, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Rklawton.JPG

Re: Image:Rklawton.JPG listed for deletion

An image or media file that you uploaded or altered, Image:Rklawton.JPG, has been listed at Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion. Please look there to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in its not being deleted. Thank you. —Hbdragon88 08:40, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Just the messenger here, I didn't nominate it, and I've already stated that your image should be kept. The nominator didn't follow through with steps 1 and 3, so I'm just finishing up with step 3 here. Hbdragon88 08:40, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
When I attempted to upload a self portrait for my user page, I was denied on the grounds that users cannot upload photos of themselves on Wikipedia. --CmdrClow 23:15, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
So post the link to this exchange where we can see it, and we can work from there. Rklawton 02:32, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
I don't know what happened to the link, but I did try it. It may have been on my previous account, but I was denied a self image. It's a good thing you're an anal retentive. CmdrClow 08:11, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:WikiProject Days of the year

Re: Calendar

Thank you for taking my proposition under advisement. --CmdrClow 00:05, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User:Goldxxxteeth

There isn't a specific warning template. Usually I just leave a message asking them to not do it. However you should be aware that currently there isn't a specific policy that disallows the removal of warnings from a user's talk page. It used to be part of the vandalism policy, but its under dispute. Thanks for reverting his addition to Cain and Abel; it was better coming from another editor than me. Best, Gwernol 01:20, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll see if I can add my two bits to the dispute. I think a 30 day period is minimally warrented. When I saw the Cain & Abel edit, I knew that a 2nd opinion would help. Cheers, Rklawton 01:44, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] MS Access

Hi, and thanks! Using the ! operator did the trick. I'm double-checking now to ensure that it's reading the control's current value, rather than the cached "recordset value". --Uncle Ed 21:45, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] International Thumb Wrestling Association

Re: battle over ITWA

Just because the ITWA hasn't felt the need to purchase a domain name yet doesn't make it less legit/more bogus. Slyder PilotE@ 20:39, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

This thread more appropriately belongs in ITWA mediation. Rklawton 20:45, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
You had mentioned this outside of the mediation. Slyder PilotE@ 01:54, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Scroll down to find the November 30, 2006 entry: http://www.sportingnews.com/blog/jdmurph0/page2/ - That's right, a mention on the Sporting News website.--Slyder Pilot 16:18, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

I don't think we count blogs as reliable sources. Keep in mind that you've got a well established WP:COI in this matter. Rklawton 16:58, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
Just bringing it to your attention. ;-) --Slyder Pilot 20:01, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] User:Ravedave

Re: Hey!

Wow nice to see the baby name from you, I haven't stopped by in a long time. I see you have become quite prolific. Heading back to the zoo anytime soon? :) -Ravedave (help name my baby) 01:43, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Good to hear from you, too. I see you've been busy. Of all the names I saw on the list, I liked "Wiki" the best. The only problem with that name, though, is the obvious rhyme. Actually, my daughter is named "Molly" - from Molybdenum. My wife didn't want to mess with her teachers, so we didn't put the elemental name on her birth certificate. Even so, we got a note home from her kindergarden teacher. hehehe. Over 11,000 Wikipedia edits and a couple thousand in Commons + other languages. I've got one barnstar and maybe two people who think I should be an admin :-). Rklawton 01:48, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
FYI I nominated two of your images over at WP:FPC hope you don't mind :) I give them a 33% chance. I really like the Mr.MCfeely pic, but portraits are almost impossible to pass. -Ravedave (help name my baby) 04:53, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
I don't mind, and thanks for the compliment. FPC is a really tough process. Someone is going to be able to publish some pretty spiffy coffee table books with the results. Rklawton 04:55, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Photo Matching Service

Thought you might want to know about this, it has the same goals as Wikipedia:WikiProject Photography, but is better organized. --Gphototalk 18:35, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, it looks good. I think I'll hit up the "needs photo" category and see if I can add the geographically-oriented requests. Rklawton 18:44, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

==Larabar Re: Larabar page

Whoops, looks like you caught me on that one. I had no idea such criteria existed. I really have a tough time navigating those internal Wikipedia criteria/protocol/process/guideline/suggestion/etc. pages anyhow. Basically I was looking for more info about the company and, upon finding no page on wikipedia, decided to make one modeling it off the Clif bar page, in case someone else wanted to find the same stuff as I did. But, like I said, it's basically uncontestible that the page fails the criteria, so I'll step down here =) Vanillacreem 18:39, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

No worries. I'm still learning how everything works around here. Rklawton 18:43, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Philanthropist

I've added the "{{prod}}" template to the article Philanthropist, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but I don't believe it satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and I've explained why in the deletion notice (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). Please either work to improve the article if the topic is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, or, if you disagree with the notice, discuss the issues at Talk:Philanthropist. You may remove the deletion notice, and the article will not be deleted, but note that it may still be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached, or if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria. — Sebastian (talk) 03:53, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kallima inachus

Created a few moments ago. Shyamal 15:27, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Substace Co-op

Hi

I created a page for Substace Co-op, as this is the research coop I work for. I planned to put details of the publications onto wikpedia, as these are in the public domain (http://www.substance.coop/index.php/Section10.html) but it seems that the page I created has been deleted, and linked to yourself.

Is there a reason for this?

Many thanks

Steven Flower —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Stevieflow (talk • contribs).

[edit] User:Ravedave

Re: Announcement

Announcement
The "Help name my baby" Poll has closed :). Greta Annette was born 12/12/06. She weighs 6lbs 14oz and is 19inches long. Mother and baby are both doing fine. Thanks for all the suggestions!

To keep this slightly Wikipedia related I have started Adopt a State, so adopt your state article today! -Ravedave (help name my baby) 03:50, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tuba (mythology)

Re: Your advice to shoot another user and comment vandalism on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tuba (mythology)

Hello. While I share your general feelings in the case of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tuba (mythology), your opinion to "shoot the author" is extremely out of line. Threats of physical violence against other Wikipedians are not funny, and are not acceptable under any circumstances. Please consider this an only and final warning, and note that the blocking policy states in this regard:

Users who make threats, whether legal, personal, or professional, that in any way are seen as an attempt to intimidate another user may be blocked without warning. If a warning is desirable, the {{npa6}} template can be used. Users that make severe threats can be blocked indefinitely.

As regards the same edit, please also do not modify and/or delete others' comments, as you did (without apparent reason) with the comments of User:Bwithh. This is unacceptable talk page behaviour. Thank you, Sandstein 12:32, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

The deletion was inadvertent - probably some sort of edit conflict. The "shoot the author" comment was humor and occasionally used by Wikipedians to chastise editors who create hoax articles. Rklawton 14:08, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
Hmm, according to this ANI post, there seems to be some database bug messing up edits today. It appears I was wrong in accusing you of comment vandalism, sorry. Sandstein 19:52, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

No worries. Consider also that my shot at humor may have been incorrectly interpreted as a threat. I'd like to think that with over 10,000 edits, my contributions here have been generally useful. I'd also like to think I was intelligent and good-looking, too. But I delude myself. Rklawton 20:49, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

Of course I was not seriously thinking you threatened to actually shoot somebody. But as we're working in an international, text-only environment in which culture-specific and nonverbal cues for humour don't exist, I'm afraid we can't afford ourselves the luxury of that sort of humour. Sandstein 21:19, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
Good point. Given that (appropriate) humor is welcome in an otherwise stuffy encyclopedic environment, would "flog" or "pillory" be OK instead? Those sorts of punishments seem to be less common these days and thus more likely to be considered a jest. Rklawton 21:25, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
One would hope so, but I guess we do have contributors from countries such as Saudi Arabia, where these punishments as well as beheadings are (ahem) at the cutting edge of penal law... Most Internet users these days would recognise the smiley symbol :-) as a cue for humour, I assume, but I'd just err on the side of caution when directly addressing other users. We have already enough clash-of-civilisations-type wikidrama as it is... Sandstein 06:29, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
Yes, it's funny when world views collide. It's a good thing I put my Lewis Carroll "Of with his head" line on hold. How about "Pie him/her"? That sort of thing used to be popular when I was in school. Rklawton 13:58, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
Oh well, okay, I doubt anyone can feel seriously threatened by that, except possibly our resident coulrophobe ... Sandstein 17:59, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Graving

Re: Requested discussion pointer
Hi Robert. I'm getting a bit confused by various views on verifiability on the graving discussion and wondered if you could clarify a point for me? I can find no mention in the Wikipedia guidelines to indicate that reliable sources for neologisms should be dictionaries or encyclopediae, yet you say "Wikipedia needs a way to be certain a word is sufficiently popular, and dictionary inclusion is our chosen method". I don't find searching the guidelines that easy and wondered if you could point me in the right direction to find information on this. Thanks Verica Atrebatum 17:05, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Sure, read WP:NEO. It's a short article. At the bottom it states we must cite reliable secondary sources such as books and papers about the term — not books and papers that use the term. Dictionaries or encyclopedias satisfy the requirement beyond dispute (hence "chosen method"). Obviously, this isn't to the exclusion of other sources, but these sources must be verifiable and they must be about the term - not simply use the term (as per above). The graving article quite clearly fails in this. The novice editors have been able to find sources indicating the term has been used, but they haven't uncovered any material about the term itself. For example, enter "What is Googling" (in quotes) into a search engine, and you will find articles that describe Googling. Enter "what is graving" (in quotes) into a search engine, and you'll find nothing. See the difference? Rklawton 17:58, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
Hmm. Yes, I'd already read that. I was hoping there some further clarification of exactly what is meant by 'books and papers'. It's a bit open to interpretation really. Thanks for the pointer. I'll probably write one more piece for the discussion and then drop it. Verica Atrebatum 18:32, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User:Yeanold Viskersenn

Re:Your death threat against me
I notice that in Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Tuba (mythology) your response features a proposition that I be executed at gunpoint. As well as finding your suggestion utterly irresponsible, sickening and quite frankly, frightening, I take the threat extremely seriously and am considering reporting this incident to the appropriate authorities. I need to be assured that you are not conspiring, or encouraging others, to murder me. I have been terrified beyond description for the past few days, unable to leave the house or even stand near windows, knowing that I could be shot in the head by you or your associates at any time, for being the creator of a tongue-in-cheek hoax article on a free internet encyclopedia. I also suggest that you thoroughly read and memorise WP:NPA to prevent you from unintentionally threatening to violently end the lives of any other Wikipedia editors. Thanks for your time. Yeanold Viskersenn 18:26, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Oh, cut down on the C-Movie acting, will you, Yeanold Viskersenn? Although it was very ill-advised humour, Rklawton has admitted it was a bad call, and I'd expect a practical joker like yourself to have noticed as much at least after reading the above discussions. If I were you, I'd be very quiet about my large-scale hoax vandalism, and not go and pester others about it. Sandstein 19:18, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
As per worthy advice from Switzerland, my suggestion has been downgraded to pieing, um piing, er peyeing. Oh, you know what I mean. Rklawton 19:25, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Graving

Re: Questions

1. I have been a Wikipedia editor for about six weeks. How long before a person is no longer considered to be "new"? 2. How do you find articles for deletion? I mean, do you go looking for stuff to nominate, or do you just make adjustments as you go along? For instance, did you just happen upon the "graving" page, or is there some kind of page where a person can go to see "new submissions" or whatever? I'm not trying to accuse you of anything, but I can tell you that my personal Wikipedia "habit" is to start out by looking up something so I can learn about it, and then one link leads to another. (If you look at my contributions, most of them are pretty minor -- adding a sentence here and there, correcting misspellings, etc.) I'm just curious. :) Countedx58 19:50, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

  1. How long… Newness is in the eye of the beholder. That determination will be entirely in the hands of the closing admin. I needed to mention it in the article so the new editors would understand – and to bring it to the closing administrator's attention.
  2. Finding articles. Sometimes I just review newly created articles regardless of topic. I learn a lot of cool new stuff that way. I'm able to help out new editors with formatting, language, etc. I often find blatant vandalism. When I do, I flag it for immediate removal. Other times, I find well intentioned editors creating articles that simply aren't suitable for inclusion. In cases that aren't obvious or in cases that bear discussion, I nominate them for deletion and explain my reasons. I (we) often use abbreviations because of the sheer repetition. Hence you'll see often references to WP:NEO, WP:NOT, WP:NOR, etc. Experienced editors know what these terms mean, and new editors can follow the links. In the case of Graving, I've contributed to several cemetery-related articles, and I keep an eye on them. When the "Graving" link showed up under their "See also" sections, I checked out the article.
When I tried fixing the article, I ran into a few problems.
  • Neologism: a lot of times we can fix this simply by renaming the article. That's no big deal. But…
  • No Original Research: when I considered the article's subject in order to find a better name, I realized that it comprised primarily of original research describing a group's hobby. Hobbies (or sports) aren't off limits, but…
  • Sources: information about hobbies (etc) must come from verifiable sources (books, articles, movies, etc.), and I couldn't find anything significant to back up the idea of "graving" as a notable activity. If you can find a solution for that problem, the rest of this would all fall into place, to wit: renaming and rewriting. Rklawton 20:08, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Okay ... "Sometimes I just review newly created articles regardless of topic." So how do you locate new articles? Is there a "new articles" page somewhere? Thanks! Countedx58 20:13, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Ah - this is what you are looking for: Special:Newpages. Happy browsing! Rklawton 22:12, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Another question for you, then: What about "schnoodling"? Shouldn't this be deleted as a neologism as well? (I'd mark the page for deletion, but I don't want my name associated with it! Eww!)

You're on the right track. It's not something I want to deal with while on vacation, but I'll check back next week. Rklawton 02:28, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
Have a good time! Countedx58 06:16, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User:Son of Berk's Dog

Re: Thanks for the nice welcome

Enjoy an enlightening and fulfilling Saturnalia, New Years, or Hogmanay. Son of Berk's Dog 23:26, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User:Kukini

Re: No problem

All in a day's work! --Kukini 22:38, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Henry Ford

Ford was antisemitic. For people who don't read the whole entry, they should be able to know that Ford is antisemitic. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dlippman (talk • contribs).

[edit] Ronald McDonald

I actually have no objections to your edit. Like many editors, I make mistakes on RC Patrol. VP detects section blanking as vandalism. Sorry for the confusion. -- Selmo (talk) 04:59, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Vladimir Lenin

Some possibilites are to use 3RR, report vandalism, or request checkuser, or try the Administrators' noticeboard if he continues. Easiest is just to simply keep reverting the deletions unti he gets tired. That may mean letting him "win" temporarily and but keep adding back the sourced material at a later time and date. I will watch the article long-term. Ultramarine 19:21, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

One possibility is to use checkuser to see if this is sockmaster user:Jacob Peters. Do not break any rules yourself like 3RR.Ultramarine 19:25, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
Actually, this seems likely. Category:Suspected Wikipedia sockpuppets of Jacob Peters show IPs similar to 68.126.253.190 which was used on the Lenin article.Ultramarine 19:28, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] User:Skydiver

Re: Thanks for the welcome...

...but it's not like I'm new here; we've talked before. Skydiver 20:15, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Spinning wheel

Ya coulda just tagged it for "facts" ya know... Rklawton 01:31, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Did i miss something (other than the train, the boat, the mark and the bus)? Philbertgray 01:52, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
I thought the "nig" remark was a pretty good giveaway, or maybe I'm livin in the wrong part of town. Philbertgray 01:59, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
You may be on to something - those doohickys are always causing trouble.  ;-)Philbertgray 09:20, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ellis Paul

Re: Album cover

I apologize for the mistake adding the picture of the Ellis Paul album cover on the Ellis Paul page. Believe it or not I thought I did all the necessary research/reading before uploading the pictures and adding them to the article. Sorry. Kmzundel 18:59, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the words of encouragement. This has been a steep learning curve, but I'm shooting for a featured article.  :-) I just added two pix again - love the B&W photo, but wanted a front-face view at top. Kmzundel 19:57, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] User:204.102.211.115

Hi Rklawton,

Since this isn't a case of simple vandalism, but still a case bad-faith editing, I suggest you post this to Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents. The problem with Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism is that it really should be used for cases of simple vandalism that admins can look at the account's contributions and instantly tell that it is vandalism. --Deathphoenix ʕ 21:41, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ellis Paul

Re: request for peer review

I have requested peer review for my Ellis Paul article and would appreciate feedback from you at your convenience. Thank you! Kmzundel 12:45, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your comments/help! Actually the B&W photo was uploaded by the owner/photographer herself. Is there something I can do to clarify that? For some reason, though, she seems to have scanned the photo from its use on a promotional postcard that Ellis Paul had printed. (That's a guess on my part simply from the name she gave the jpg file.) Her name is Melissa M. Bugg and her website is http://www.artistictouchphoto.com. That particular photo can be found at least 2 places on the Internet that I know of - including Ellis Paul's web site in the "Onstage" photo gallery. Kmzundel 14:30, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Chubby Cherub

Rklawton, this is a real video game. And, when a licensed video game is concerned on Wikipedia, it is always notable. WhisperToMe 05:04, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

From what I can tell on Wikipedia, all licensed video games are notable. Chubby Cherub made Seanbaby's list of worst NES games of all time, anyway. WhisperToMe 05:11, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

http://www.seanbaby.com/nes/w20-15.htm = Seanbaby's rant is one "outside of the company" source http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/nes/review/587187.html = Gamefaqs

And, by the way, Seanbaby has a Wikipedia article - Of course Gamefaqs does too.

Also see the various links here: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22Chubby+Cherub%22&btnG=Google+Search

WhisperToMe 05:16, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Also, from those very much non-trivial sources, I found that the game was released in Japan as Obake no Q-tarō WanWan Panic, which was based on a manga by Fujiko Fujio. WhisperToMe 05:25, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Lawton, the way that the WP:Software defines trivial doesn't seem to agree with your definition. WhisperToMe 16:59, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Patient

"Moved picture as per style guide which expressly states that images should not be looking off page".

Can you please point me to where that is from, as from your edit review I do not see what you mean with it.

Also I wonder why you want to move the image to the left and the TOC to the right, when 99% of all articles have it reverse - and I feel uniformity is a good thing for these things. People expect it to be left, left is where the eye and the mouse will tend to be. We read from left to right, and all other 'control fields' of Wikipedia are to the left too. MadMaxDog 14:17, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Here: Wikipedia:Manual of Style - I also left this information on the article's talk page. Rklawton 14:19, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
I got your point and composed a reply here, which got lost now, because we had an edit conflict. Okay, I understand your point now. However, I find that this breaks the whole layout (especially the toc right!) for the sake of a minor point. I also disagree with the flipping argument in this case, especially seeing that there is no writing etc in the image at all.

MadMaxDog 14:25, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

The flipping point is a bit more obscure. In this case, the electronic leads are not symetrical so flipping the image would be misleading. It might not matter to non-medical folks, but I think a somnologist would differ. Rklawton 14:30, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
So you think it is better that the article look weird, than that some specialist, if he looked very closely, would find something wrong, but of no account? Excuse me, but I disagree with that weighing of importance. I am trying to find a way around the matter fulfilling the letter of the law, so to speak, but I consider this a wrong emphasis.
PS I'll also copy this discussion ove to the talk page as you originally suggested.MadMaxDog 14:39, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] User:Nolanjones

Thanks for tagging the redirect for me. I knew moving the page would create a redirect, but as I have just started recent changes patrolling, I had to look up what speedy tag would be most apporiate to use for the new redirect. By the time I'd done that, you had beaten me to it! Anyway, regards. Teiresias84 12:00, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

And btw looking through the history of my talk page, I am a little confused as to weather it is preferable for to cut and paste or not when userpaging a namespace article? Teiresias84 12:16, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] User:BigDT

Re: Your message about speedy tags

Thank you for your question - I have replied on my talk page. By the way, when I clicked on your user name to leave you this message, I noticed your photo gallery link, so I took a look. Your photos are absolutely stunning - I'm sitting here in awe looking at some of these butterflies. Great work! --BigDT 17:03, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Criticisms of Marxism

I saw your comments on the Mediation Cabal page regarding my problems with Ultramarine. Did you take a look at the history of the page and the discussion? Ultramarine was--by myself and by a mediator--told to cite information he/she had asserted in the article. The onus is not on me to prove an uncited assertion. It is on the editor who added it to the entry. Period. I suggest you take a closer look. -Dialecticas 01:39, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

RE:your refined comments on the Mediation page: Did you take a look at the "citation" that Ultramarine provided? It is from a secondary source providing commentary on the author in question. This certainly, by no standard, is *not* a valid citation. The only thing Ultramarine has provided from the author, Eric Hoffer, is a quote that says, "...nor was Marx a Marxist." This is poor encyclopedia editing, and unacceptable on Wikipedia. Your accusation of POV-pushing on my part is inaccurate and out of line. A strong Criticisms of Marxism article is what is needed, not a weak one. --Dialecticas 02:16, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
Removing an allegedly weak citation does not make an article stronger. Replacing one citation with a better citation does. Rklawton 02:19, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Abraham Lincoln

I'm really sorry for not making a discussion before editing the article. As you know, I'm a diehard fan of Abe and I somewhat can't stand the theory that Abe is homosexual. I remove the information because I think the article on his sexuality has violated Wiki's rule original research. Moreover, I myself have made investigation into his life a number of times and I believe it's unnecessary to add such information, because the hypothesis is itself a hypothesis, not mention that it's still controversial. If someday other researchers find evidence which substantiates that the hypothesis is wrong, people who have read the article containing the false theory will have a deviant view on individual Abraham Lincoln. Thus I said that the information hasn't been confirmed, because up till now no one could bear out the veraciousness of the theory. Lastly, I don't want people to have bad impression on Abe (the homosexual thing does spoil his image) since he's my hero. AbelinCAusesobad 14:40, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your suggestion. By the way, I have just made a try to your photo website (lawtonphotos.com) but I can't find any links to other pages except the main page (which has a small picture of a girl, very impressive). I don't know whether there's something wrong with the website. I'm curious to see your photographs ( I must add that I'm a below-amateur level photographer). AbelinCAusesobad 07:15, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
About the minor edit: Actually I don't care about the summary (I forget to add info in it) and it automatically appears as "m". Sorry for the slip, I will learn by experience. Thanks for reminding. AbelinCAusesobad 05:03, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Criticisms of Marxism

Re: MedCab Case: Criticisms of Marxism

I have been advised by the applicant in the Criticisms of Marxism MedCab Case that they do not wish for you to participate in the mediation. I appreciate your desire to participate, but unfortunately, in this case, I will have to ask you to refrain from getting directly involved. You may however choose to contact one of the participants and see if they wish to understand your view point. user:Dialecticas has stated he does not wish to have dialog with you. Thank you for your understanding. Alan.ca 20:33, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Not a problem. I jumped in when I saw what I perceived as a clear case of bias. I thought that pointing this out might help the offending party see the error of his ways, so to speak. It rarely works out that way, though, I suppose. Best wishes. Rklawton 21:24, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for your offer. I appreciate it.Ultramarine 21:38, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Email

FYI, I just sent you one. alphachimp 07:28, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Abraham Lincoln

I got the unsourced information from the White House web site, as well as other speeches by politicians. I also used various internet sites as well. -- SNIyer12 (talk) 18:52, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Relist

I normally don't relist when there is more than 2 votes, because some days people just don't want to to vote and we have to deal with that. But you are welcome to renominate it if you wish. Cbrown1023 00:20, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Il Divo - The Christmas Collection

Re: Album Cover (Il Divo - The Christmas Collection

Robert, you said it yourself. The term fair use and the album cover. Those photos are from the CD cover of THE CHRISTMAS COLLECTION at page 2,3,4 and 5 and I have justified it at the photo pages. And that is my point on why they have to be removed. That is why I am asking for a justification from whoever who delete them. Jay 05:27, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Ok now, I am totally lost. Robert, the whole article was written by somebody else and the album cover in the main article has been there for almost 2 years. The main page photo is the article for the whole group, name IL DIVO. Almost all singer’s articles in Wikipedia are using album covers and if it is not allowed, please make it fair to all of us, remove ALL in Wikipedia, not only Il Divo! My earlier argument was referring to the members pages (4 members – Carlos, Sebastian, Urs and David) when the photos were removed even I have noted that they were scanned from the album cover. After I asked for your justification for the photos in the members page, you made it worst by removing the album cover in the main page that has been there for almost 2 years? Are you telling me that Wikipedia does not allow photos from the album cover? Please answer this, if your answer is “Yes, Wikipedia does not allow photo from album cover”, please go to other singers articles and do the same like what you did in Il Divo’s article. - Jay 06:10, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] User:Hahahaha1

Re: Link

Hey , thanks for the link .Hahahaha1 03:32, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] User:Slyder Pilot

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Just trying to be as big of a pain in the ass as you are sir. I am of the belief that the people who have a lot of chatter on their talk pages are one of two kinds of users: 1) very helpful and are getting praised us such or 2) a real pain in the ass and are getting praised as such. I'd be easily persuaded to think you're #2 based on the negative/leaning towards negative comments that you have received on your talk page. But hey, don't you go changin' - it makes for fun posting. WWRD - What Would Rklawton Delete? --Slyder Pilot 01:48, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
I frankly don't care if you have that warning there or not, but if you delete yours then leave mine alone. If you leave it, then fine, remind me of my deletions. --Slyder Pilot 01:53, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Talitha Getty

Rather drastic gutting of photgraphs without warninng, I think. The two of Talitha Getty herself (which are difficult enough to find anyway) were deliberatley mere fragments of much larger images. I suppose the fact they are about 40 years old is irrelevant, bit it might have been helpful to have had sime discussion about whether there was some alterntaive fair use definition. I appreciate that there have to be rule about this of thing, but they could perhaps be policed a little more thoughfully. 86.135.23.185 14:42, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

To what end? Is there some doubt about whether or not these images violated copyrights? Rklawton 14:58, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sébastien Izambard

emm...sorry but it's not true you didn't add any images...compare in the Sébastien Izambard article your revision as of 00:42, 29 January 2007 to the previous one by me as of 00:41, 29 January 2007. Second, I'm the main author of that article (I unstubbed it a long time ago) and have been adding info. since about one year ago. The fact that I don't properly cite my sources doesn't mean the article has only one source. My sources are the mags, tv interviews, and random info. given to the fans at their forum and website...the problem is that I didn't know how important it was to properly reference articles at Wikipedia until a couple of months ago and at Il Divo's forum normally the fans don't cite their sources properly (they will show a scanned page of a magazine usually when they want to inform the rest of us of something) and most information is posted for only one week so now it's impossible for me to locate the old scans and quote them. The fact that I can't prove what I say doesn't mean it isn't true, please assume good faith on my part and remove the "one source" tag. Rosa 01:08, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

I believe the tag that asks for references to be added would be more accurate...as it is now it looks as if I have lifted the article from a single place, which isn't true.Rosa 01:23, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
No, there isn't a tag which says "I really really honestly used sources, but I just didn't list them so could you find them for me", but there's one that asks for references to be added to an article. Also, I've never asked anyone else to find any references for me; I chose to leave a message at your page instead of changing the template myself in order to explain the situation and prevent any misunderstandings. The issue is simple: the original sources I got the info. from for this article can't be found...although I think other, newer sources, could be cited (even if those aren't the ones I used)...I'll be searching them shortly.
I don't know if you're aware of this but you should really moderate the way you express yourself towards other wikipedians. On good faith, I'm assuming you don't really mean to be rude towards me but please do not use a judgmental tone in your future edits to me (if there's need for any). For further info. on this please see Wikipedia:Civility. Rosa 01:59, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the advice too. :)Rosa 02:41, 29 January 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Lincoln Thompson

Lets keep the conversation at Talk:Lincoln Thompson, SqueakBox 01:31, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Seb.JPG

Re: Il Divo-Seb-David-Carlos-Ur Photos

My own video/photos taken from the concert on 18 Jan in Singapore using my Sony cybershot by my aunt. And later on, I snapshot the video to photo using Microsoft Movie Maker in my PC. FYI, I am mixed Singaporean/Malaysian living in Kuala Lumpur. You would not find the photo or video anywhere unless for those who went to the concert and sat in the 1st and 2nd row (right) during the concert - Jay 04:37, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, but the photo is a bit blur. The lighting is bad, besides it was edited from a video using a digi cam. - Jay 04:46, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
In comparison to other fan-photos, this one really stands out. Rklawton 04:48, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image:KyoBand.jpg

Hi, I was told that this photograph was part of an album artwork. However, I recently found out it is not true. I changed it to logo because I thought it was the one that said something like: "...is a press photo that is used to show the image of the band". Sorry if I caused confusion with those labels. However, since I cannot find a way to know the templates for image description, I do not really know which one to use. Could you send me a copy of the labels that might apply to Image:KyoBand.jpg and tell me which templates to use in that case? Thanks in advance, Zouavman Le Zouave (Talk to me! • See my edits!) 20:20, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the link! :) Zouavman Le Zouave (Talk to me! • See my edits!) 20:33, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 3 (Violent Femmes album)

I notice you tagged this article as having only one source? Did you mean the liner notes or the billboard charts? If you're unhappy with the lack of information, maybe a different template would be more appropriate? -Freekee 03:19, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

I'm assuming that the single source you mentioned was Billboard magazine, for the chart data. But there are really two sources, since the personnel, track listing and other details were taken from the album itself. It looks to me that a bigger problem is that there is very little information in the article at all. It's a borderline stub. I say borderline because it does have a fairly complete infobox, a track listing, a personnel section and chart data. It's only missing descriptive text. Maybe I'm a little confused. Let me cut to the chase. Could you please explain your reasoning for tagging it so? -Freekee 04:31, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
Ah. The tag says, This article relies largely or entirely upon a single source. To me, this implies that only one source was used to compose the article, but from your explanation, I gather you are dissatisfied that the source (Billboard) was not cited. If this is the case, {{fact}} added to the top of the "Charts" section might be more appropriate. However, I think it's fairly obvious that the chart info came from Billboard Magazine. So I'm not sure if that info really needs to be cited. Or is there something else you were getting at? I don't mean to be such a pain about this, but I don't think the tag is warranted, but I don't like deleting other people's work without an understanding. -Freekee 04:53, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sonic Youth

In the legal context from which this language is derived, "identification and critical commentary" represent separate rationales for fair use, either of which may be sufficient, depending on the context. Would you imagine that an image does not meet fair use criteria if it critically comments on but does not identify a subject? If it's impossible to critically comment on a subject without identifying it, why is identification mentioned in the first place? The main legal test for fair use is whether the use unfairly infringes on the economic rights of the copyright holder--and WP is in no way competing with Fox by posting a miniscule screenshot from its half-hour-long program. Nareek 05:26, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Identification is not decoration. See Wikipedia talk:Fair use#Identification. Nareek 14:02, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Western Frontier

Would you consider changing your vote based on the proposal I made? See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Western Frontier for details. --Richard 14:51, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 219 Days

Hello,

Thank you for your stub submission. You may wish to note that it is preferable to use a stub template from Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Stub types instead of using simply {{stub}}, if you can.

Thanks!--Vox Rationis 18:43, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, I 'spose it's time for me to get with the program (or template). I've been editing long enough... Rklawton 18:47, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I've got some more questions on this article. Why is it tagged as having an unreliable source? Are artists official sites usually tagged as unreliable? And also tagged as having a single source when tons of album pages have no sources. As I said on the articles talk page, I'm slightly confused. Bigdottawa 19:47, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
Artists can say anything they want about themselves in their own websites. We're looking for verifiable information. Therefore, we prefer information from independent sources. Yes, it's always useful to include the artist's website in their articles, but it's not wise to rely entirely upon these sources. Artist/album/song articles are no exception.
I see your point about tons of album articles having no sources. That's entirely inappropriate as it violates WP:V, Wikipedia's policy on verifiability. Any article without sources should be tagged accordingly.
I think what is confusing you, and justifiably so, is that you have been reading a lot of very low quality album articles, and you are perceiving these to be the norm. The important thing to remember is that Wikipedia makes no special exceptions for album articles. They either conform to Wikipedia's policies, or they get tagged accordingly in hopes that an editor will come along and spruce them up a bit. Rklawton 22:08, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
This is still making no sense. If an official site can't be used as a proper source for a track listing, what can be? These tags are ridiculous, and it makes the article look ridiculous. Bigdottawa 16:12, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
Wikipedia's policies regarding reliable sources make a lot of sense. Have you read them? I left a longer reply on your talk page. Rklawton 19:58, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Commons:Picture of the Year/2006

Re: Commons Picture of the Year competition

Voting is now open at Commons to choose the finalists for Picture of the Year 2006. The voting page is at Commons:Picture of the Year/2006. All editors having at least 100 edits either here or on any Wikimedia Wiki are welcome to participate. --MichaelMaggs 07:14, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Harvest (band)

Hello Rklawton,

Thank you for your help in editing the Harvest article. I'll try to find another image for the infobox.

I appreciate your time,

Jamie L. 16:49, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

No worries. It's one of the most complete band article I've reviewed lately. I've posted lots of "expand" and "reference" tags lately. Rklawton 16:51, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] User:Joelmills

Re: Thanks for reminding me

At first, I had no idea what you were talking about when you referred to album covers on my user page, and then I remembered a subpage I had briefly created just to get a table formatted right. So, thanks for reminding me, and I went ahead and deleted them. --Joelmills 17:19, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

No worries. I should have provided a link. Cheers, Rklawton 18:17, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Identity theft

Re: Changes made to Identity Theft

Hi,

I'm wondering why the changes I made to "Identity Theft" were removed. The information is the latest available, and based on the most comprehensive survey of ID fraud out there (more than 5,000 U.S. adults, representative of the U.S. census, were interviewed via phone). It's also the most quoted resource of its kind (AP, WSJ, Dow Jones, Finextra, NPR, Reuters, UPI, Forbes, Fortune, Business Week, NY Times, USA Today, and many other major news sources and publications.) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Rachelgkim (talk • contribs) 18:31, 2 February 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Brian Germain

As requested, this is now userfied to your sandbox. If all you want is a userfied copy, you can just ask at deletion review's content review section, either by editing its inclusion on the main page or directly at Wikipedia:Deletion review/Content review. GRBerry 20:16, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll do that next time. Cheers, Rklawton 20:18, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WP:MUSIC

Re: Album notability guidlines

With reference to a recent Afd regarding whether albums are notable enough (Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Side_Show_Freaks). I have created a proposed guidline for addition to WP:MUSIC in my user space which can be found here; User:Ryanpostlethwaite/WP:MUSIC (album). I would welcome your comments on this matter at Wikipedia talk:Notability (music) where I have left a thread. Regards RyanPostlethwaiteSee the mess I've created or let's have banter 23:06, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Many thanks for your comments, I've now changed charted in any national music chart to charted in any national weekly music chart. Regarding the gold status, I think we should leave that how it is because thats the same as notability guidlines for an artist inclusion - and lets face it, if it reaches gold status in any county it should warrant inclusion!! I've also attached your comments to Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals) where its being discussed (I hope you don't mind!). Thanks again RyanPostlethwaiteSee the mess I've created or let's have banter 00:15, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Template substitution

Re: Template substitution

As a matter of fact, there is: Wikipedia:Template substitution. —tregoweth (talk) 19:38, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] General of the Armies

Re: General of the Armies edit

Why did you revert this page back to erroneous information? Congress does not appoint officers; only the President does. Furthermore, my post was accurate, especially considering the specific language of the act which authorized the President to appoint George Washington as General of the Armies. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Slyjackalope (talk • contribs) 05:44, 6 February 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Lisa Nowak

Re: Lisa Nowak

Thank you for the compliment! This is a bit of a new thing for me, too; I usually don't work on current events articles. Trying to keep all the balls in the air with only two hands, two feet and one keyboard is an interesting experience... Cheers. --Plek 18:25, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image source

Yes I was assuming the image was an accurate rendition of the album cover therefore the source was the album cover though I assume it may have been lifted from a web site not a direct photo but does it matter if we allow fair use of album covers and there is nothing else in the image ... Trying to do my bit for the speedy deltion backlog but not wanting to delete images which probably could stay. Regards--Golden Wattle talk 22:58, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 2067 (album)

Re: 2067 citation request

Hi, you tagged an article (2067 (album)) with a citation request. I had recently added to it and I'm fairly new to this so I'm wondering what I might do to meet the requirements for citation. Any help would be appreciated. Cheers Strobilus 17:18, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Hi and welcome. You'll find citation information here: WP:REF. Rklawton 17:27, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, I've skimmed through that page before but I'll take a closer look. My addition to the page was the album cover, which I think I sourced properly, and the album chronology. So was it my contribution that prompted the tag or is the tag directed at the article in general? Thanks again Strobilus 17:40, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] User:Eric.frederich

Re: Question for you

Hi, I see you recently edited my talk page. I was wondering what prompted you to do so. I see you're a photographer, was it one of my photos? Eric.frederich 21:59, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, I didn't take that photo of the dragonfly. I just edited the page and placed a link to macro photography. I do have some nice pictures of dragonflys though. This one is probably my favorite. dragonfly —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Eric.frederich (talk • contribs) 18:36, 14 February 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Sexual objectification

Re: Good luck

What about this photo for Sexual Objectification? http://nymag.com/news/intelligencer/17588/ I hope you have better luck than I did on that page, although I do think there were some valid points against my photo. But I find it odd that there are editors on that page who simply find it too difficult to find an accurate representation of "sex object" in an image, or how women/men are turned into such without much concern for their personality. But isn't that Ms. Korea photo pretty good? --DavidShankBone 14:26, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

The Korean image is great! I like the wet-t image because it also plays into the harms associated with sexual objectification. Bars, beer, wet t-shirts all serve to increase violence against women. The link between pageants and violence is less obvious. Rklawton 15:49, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
Yes, I agree - I sheepishly admit I got a laugh out of the Korean photo. I'd never submit it. lol. --DavidShankBone 16:10, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] User:Karasu 1993

excuse me, where do I put pictures...if I can put any at all? um...i didn't do it... 14:34, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

We can not put fair use images on user pages. WP:FUC explains where we can properly use these images. Rklawton 15:49, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

alright, thank you!

um...i didn't do it... 20:07, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cleopatra (band)

Re: Why are you taggin The Cleopatra page

What is wrong with it? And why does it concern you? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 212.139.191.69 (talk) 21:57, 10 February 2007 (UTC).

Wikipedia has standards regarding reliable sources WP:RS and verifiability WP:V, and the article, as written, fails both of these. Rklawton 22:50, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

So what source would you like to see to verify these fact. Everything written about Cleopatra on that page is things they've done and acheived. Its a small page about Cleopatra not the beetles!

If it is that small, and if the article can not meet Wikipedia's standards, then perhaps it shouldn't be an article. Rklawton 14:42, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Why shouldn't they have their own page stating what they have acheived? What doesn;t meet the standards? I don;t even know what source you want.

As I suggested above, read WP:RS and WP:V and you'll have the answers to your questions. Rklawton 16:57, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

I did.. don't be difficult! What is it you think needs a source. The external links are not the sources

I don't see any other sources listed in the article, and that causes problems with WP:V. Rklawton 17:29, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Shirley Clamp

Excuse me, but how can citing an artists' official website be considered citing a self-published source? Surely the vast majority of reliable info on a singer (in most cases) is likely to be on their own website? Chwech 19:53, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] User:Causesobad

Re: Happy Feb 12
Happy Lincoln's birthday



Dear Rklawton
On this day 198 years ago, a boy was born in a log cabin to two indigent farmers. Nobody could predict one day the poor boy would become one of the greatest US Presidents of all time, who had abolished slavery and preserved the Union during Civil War. The world may little note, nor long remember his birthday, but it can never forget what he did for the country. Thus to make February 12 not sink into the limbo, together we celebrate Lincoln's Birthday. Also, thanks for your contributions to Abraham Lincoln-related articles and I hope that you'll continue to improve them as a way to commemorate his monumental sacrifice. Best regards. Causesobad → (Talk) 13:33, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Photographer

You deleted a picture I added to the photographer article, the reason: non-ilustrative vanity image. Could you explain me why a close up of a photographer is not ilustrative for this article?. Thanks. Wikifrikiuser 16:51, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page and in the article talk page. Rklawton 03:31, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
Replied back. Wikifrikiuser 11:17, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
Vanity: Vanity is the excessive belief in one's own abilities or attractiveness to others. So in this case it's your excessive belief in you ability to take photographs and your way of judging others'. The term is right. By the way, you violated WP:CIVIL: Judgmental tone in edit summaries. That's how it all started.Wikifrikiuser 17:04, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
I see. So you post a self-portrait taken with a mirror and then your feelings were hurt because I noted it was a vanity photo in the edit summary? If nothing else, at least your funny. Rklawton 17:35, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] October 3

Re: Bill Clinton Candidacy & Presidency a "Trivial event"???==

I see you deleted this entry on November 23, 2006, for denoting a "trivial event"--

I take it you're a Republican? 70.243.229.87 05:10, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

We don't list election results in event sections in date articles, so why would we list candidacy declarations? Rklawton 21:31, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Numerous other "This day in history" lists, such as by the World Almanac & other almanacs published for decades, do include election results (e.g. Kennedy elected November 8, 1960, Lincoln re-elected November 8, 1864), and the formal announcement-of-candidacy for those who did become Presidents of the United States is crucial information to the analysis of their political careers--the type of information people access Wikipedia for in the first place. I added that entry last October 3 because I went to confirm for purposes of my own research that he declared on October 3, 1991 and not October 2, 1991, and was suprised and puzzled there was no mention of it. So I researched, found the exact date, and added it. Evidently you ARE a Republican, because your pal's mention of Abraham Lincoln is a standard Republican gesture...while Abe Lincoln was a Republican in name, however, I've heard many political analysts tend to agree he would be considered a Democrat today, and not accept the Republican platform. But that's a different story. For now, I take it very personally that a key event in Bill Clinton's career AND the history of the U.S., is being deleted because someone considers it "trivial." On the plus side, I do agree with your deletion of the Canadian(?) political event, and the Giants game. 70.248.203.84 21:43, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

I'm a Republican because of something a reply another editor made? Now where is the logic in that? I understand your reasoning for adding Clinton to the article. I'm not faulting it. It's just at odds with what we use as criteria for inclusion in this section for this type of article. I'm curious, why the paranoia regarding party affiliation? And does this paranoia speak well for whatever party you represent? Rklawton 22:03, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

NO, MY INSINUATION WAS THAT YOU'RE EVIDENTLY A REPUBLICAN BECAUSE YOU KEEP DELETING AN IMPORTANT ENTRY ABOUT DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENT BILL CLINTON, FOR REASONS THAT DON'T HOLD WATER. THE DATE OF CLINTON'S DECLARATION OF CANDIDACY IN EARLY OCTOBER 1991 IS GREATER IN UNIQUENESS AND IMPORTANCE THAN THE DATES OF REGULAR NATIONWIDE ELECTIONS EVERY TWO YEARS IN THE FIRST PART OF NOVEMBER (DUH!). AND WHY THE "PARANOIA" ON YOUR PART, ABOUT AN IMPORTANT FACT ABOUT A RECENT TWO-TERM PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES BEING INCLUDED IN AN ENCYCLOPEDIC TIMELINE? TALK ABOUT PROJECTION -- DISAGREEING OVER AN EDIT IS NOT PARANOIA ON MY PART, AND YOU'RE PROVING TO BE MERELY EGOTISTICAL ABOUT THIS...TWICE LABELING SOMEONE "PARANOID" BECAUSE HE OR SHE DISAGREES WITH YOU ABOUT AN EDIT IS CONDUCT UNBECOMING AN ADMINISTRATOR, AND MORE SERIOUS A VIOLATION OF WIKIPEDIA POLICY THAN A REVERT WAR. AS FOR YOUR THREAT TO BAN MY I.P. FOR REVERTING YOUR REPEATED DELETION/VANDALISM OF MY EDIT, DO YOU REALLY THINK THAT WOULD BE THE END OF THE MATTER? 70.248.203.84 03:13, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Given that I've removed presidential election results from all parties in all elections (U.S., Canadian, Australian, and others), I don't see how you can infer any affiliation at all. Next, routine elections are specifically proscribed from "days of the year" articles in the project's charter. Removing them is simply a matter of housekeeping for this project. If you find other election-related events, you're welcome to remove those as well. On a side note, I don't believe I've ever used the word "paranoid" in any of my edits on Wikipedia, let alone one relating to you. Perhaps other people have used this word in reference to you instead? Lastly, you'll want to review WP:CIVIL to gain a better understanding of appropriate behavior here at Wikipedia. Rklawton 04:01, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Note to Rklawton: the entry for October 3, 1991: "Arkansas Governor Bill Clinton declares candidacy for U.S. President" --isn't describing an election or election results, routine or otherwise. So why do you keep referring to it as a "routine election?" You wrote: "If you find other election-related events, you're welcome to remove those as well." Well guy, I won't take you up on your offer, because I enjoy freedom of information, not blatant censorship. 70.248.203.84 05:52, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Declaring candidacy is all part of the election routine. In fact, it's a rather trivial part - winning being the most significant event. Indeed, this date is so trivial, that it's not even mentioned in Bill Clinton's article at all. Rklawton 13:25, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Brooke Marie Bridges

I found this person on IMDb and fleshed out the article. I removed the speedy tag because the person does exist. If you feel that the person isn't notable enough (which she may well not be) feel free to prod. I won't stand in your way. IrishGuy talk 23:56, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

My bad. I followed available links and found nothing. You dug further - as I should have. Rklawton 23:57, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
It's no problem at all. Frankly, the user who created that article has been making a lot of them. I tagged one because the person had only appeared in four episodes of a tv series and has no other credits. I haven't looked into the others yet. Feel free to if you have the time. IrishGuy talk 23:59, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
It sounds like they're good-faith efforts. I'll look into them later in the evening. Rklawton 00:26, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] User:ryanpostlethwaite

Re: Rfa
Hi, I was just wondering if you'd though about running for adminship? If you had, I'd be happy to nominate you - you do great wikipedia work and deserve the mop RyanPostlethwaiteSee the mess I've created or let's have banter 02:29, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Henry Ford

Thanks, glad you ejoyed it. I'm tired of this strange trend towards revisionist history. Anyways, could you review the page history and revert to a less white-washed version? thanks. ThuranX 04:35, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

I'll see what I can do. Rklawton 13:37, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
Please continue to keep an eye on the article, as he continues to redact the information about Ford's anti-semitism. His latest tactic, which i've removed, is to insert the word 'alleges' or some conjugate thereof for anythign said by others about Ford's attitudes. Highly distressing when the previous word for 'speak' was'remarked', which is far more synonymous with' verbally communicated' than 'opined'. ThuranX 22:41, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
He's gone into really weird territory now, and I oculd use some backup. He's not claiming that in addition to our article being POV, it's being written by those with an anti-American agenda. His last response reads like a conspiracy theory. I'm going to leave the page for a while to let him cool off, so if someoen else isn't catching his edits, they'll wind up sticking. ThuranX 20:09, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the support. ThuranX 23:29, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
All I want to do is stick with the historians - however that falls out. Personally, I'd love to think of Henry as a big Boy Scout, that George really did chop down a cherry tree, and that ol'e Abe was indeed honest. However, when I look to encyclopedia articles, I expect to find ideas and information that go a little deeper than high school textbooks. Rklawton 23:36, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
that's what I want as well. It just shakes out that his foibles were significant and notable. ThuranX 00:50, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] University

More than 60% of my text has been quoted from or is based on linked articles of this Wikipedia. I have quoted also http://www.wsws.org/articles/2000/apr2000/heid-a03.shtml, but the Martin Heidegger article contains comparable informations.Xx236 16:15, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] User:216.185.176.130

I just wanted to appologize for the vandalizing i did on the main page. thank you for stoping me. 216.185.176.130 18:45, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Kamran Jawaid

Re: Help on Recent Edit
Hi. I was editing Kamran Jawaid, when you tagged it as a Articles_lacking_sources_from_February_2007. There are a few resources available on the person, and since I just started out on editing wikipedia, I might need a little help pulling it off. Can you help? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by R craycroft (talk • contribs).

Thanks, I have a couple of questions:

1 - After I finished putting in the data, I did a search for the person's name with wikipedia (eg: Kamran Jawaid + wikipedia), but I couldn't find any link which referred be back to wikipedia. How is that accomplished?

2 - Also, how can we put in categories, which are mostly found on the bottom of the pages, to the page? I have been finding it a little difficult to add and remove categories. I would like to add the following categories at the footer: film critic, critical theory, [1], [2].

3 - I have a saved page from the official website of Kamran Jawaid, where he discusses all the categories in the article, but since then the site has been taken down. It will be back up again on a new-domain, which I confirmed from the direct source. Would this make the topic free from citation or should we wait until the official website is back up again?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by R craycroft (talk • contribs).

Thanks a lot. Will look you up if I bump into any other problems. R. Craycroft 19:24, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

I'm glad I could help. Rklawton 19:25, 23 February 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Parachuting

As far as the hook knife refrence. I was under the impression it applied to HALO jumps in general. There's no skydiving reason to carry a knife. None. So it needs to be removed entirely.

BASE jumping does not fall into the same catagory. I was in the process of gathering sources when you reverted it. If you are going to include BASE jumping then you need to include paragliding. I never made any changed to malfuctions accident rates ect so I'm not doing someone else's homework.

As far as my experience, I have four years in 600 jumps and am in the process of becoming the S & TA for my DZ. I have a coaches rating and am getting ready to take my rigger's exam.

Mostly I removed un-cited and slanderous statement from the safety secitonRWgirl 20:42, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page. Rklawton 20:47, 23 February 2007 (UTC)


Never had anyone comment so I apologise if this was the wrong place to respond. —comment added by RWgirl(t/c)

"First" time, hmmm? No worries. Article-specific stuff should go on the article's talk page. Anything else can pretty much go anywhere else - whatever works. Rklawton 21:04, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DeKalb

Thanks for chiming in, check my talk page. There are articles on this arcade I just don't think they are non trivial, along the lines of this place is opening, it is a new business. I think that User:JazzButcher is going to attempt to use them as sources to proclaim the landmark status of the arcade. This, I am certain wouldn't qualify. Am I wrong? Introduction of this information into DeKalb, Illinois would make an already badly in need of clean up article all the worse. A mcmurray 20:53, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

It would be awesome if you could post your last comment to me on the DeKalb talk page and on JazzButcher's talk page.A mcmurray 22:42, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
Done. Rklawton 23:08, 25 February 2007 (UTC)


hello. ive left this message on A mcmurray's discussion page and, since you are now a part of this, decided to leave it on yours as well. I still fail to realize how this does not qualify as an attraction... It is something that is out-of-the-ordinary and is hard to come by (well, at least it is for me seeing as how this arcade is the only one of it's kind within hundreds of miles of my location). I can see how it isn't a landmark, but the original category title wasn't just about landmarks, it was about points of interest/attractions as well. Now please, if you wish to get back into this debate that you have started, explain why this would not qualify as an attraction even with 2 different articles about it published. thank you. JazzButcher 03:52, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

I'll reply on the article's talk page momentarily. Rklawton 04:25, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Rfa

Sorry for the late reply, I've been so busy this weedend. Well, with regards to civility I think its good your making an active step to calm it down, at Rfa, the fact that your trying to improve will be looked upon favourably. I think your main plus is that you actively participate in AfD's. Personally I think your ready now, but if you want to wait then thats fine by me. Let me know when you want to run and I'd be more than happy to put a co-nom in with Alphchimp RyanPostlethwaiteSee the mess I've created or let's have banter 22:49, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] User:A mcmurray

yep I do. But i am mad and i am kinda not sober. sorry. i hate that guy. damn it.User:A mcmurray (talk • contribs) 05:35, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

man dont think less of me. I am so mad. and a bit intoxicated. I just love the Wiki. Thats all.User:A mcmurray (talk • contribs) 05:38, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
I cant unwatch it, I live here, for now, man. You know I dont stoop to their level, normally. I just happened to drink and just happened to be pissed. Man. I suck.User:A mcmurray (talk • contribs) 05:40, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
I will sleep it off now and be happy in the morn though that will do little to repair what i have done with jazzbutcher, damn, i do suck.User:A mcmurray (talk • contribs) 05:42, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
Everyone has a bad day now and then. Don't let it get you down. Rklawton 05:44, 26 February 2007 (UTC)


[edit] spammer guy

hey buddy. im not some fly-by-night spamming guy. i use wikipedia for everything and finally started TRYING to contribute. i just really wanted to see star worlds arcade get what it deserved, you know? its a fine establishment and the owner is a great guy. would be nice to have it under attractions on wikipedia.

so, just out of curiousity, since changing the mind of the guy who clearly wants it to never be on that page is not going to work, who can i talk to on wikipedia to see if it can be featured on the dekalb wikipedia page?

i appreciate the help and civility. JazzButcher 08:47, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Springfield, Illinois

I don't suppose you have pictures of the Springfield area by chance? We are trying to expand that area, and wanted to see if we can find people who live nearby if they have any or could take any. St. Louis isn't exactly close, but figured I would ask if you have any.--Kranar drogin 12:13, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Sorry for getting back to you so slowly. Well, basically we are going to possibly need pictures of the city skeyline if possible, all the schools, the Capital township building, Springfield Memorial Medical Center and St. John's Hospital, Illinois Superem Court building, and Lake Springfield. Don't know if we can do this or not, but the Abraham Lincoln Capital Airport would be cool too. Pretty much anything on the Springfield page that has a link, I would like to have at least one picture of. I know this is a lot of work, but whatever you could get would be great.--Kranar drogin 04:02, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
We need what is noted above, plus (for articles, main article Springfield and future articles):

City Water, Light & Power - Dana-Thomas House - Illinois General Assembly - Illinois State Fair - Maid-Rite Sandwich Shop - Lake Springfield - Lanphier High School - Lincoln Land Community College - Lutheran High School (Springfield, Illinois) - Memorial Medical Center (Springfield, Illinois) - Reisch Beer - Sacred Heart-Griffin High School - Southeast High School (Springfield, Illinois) - Springfield College (Illinois) - Springfield High School (Illinois) - Springfield (Illinois) Mass Transit District - St. John's Hospital - Ursuline Academy (Illinois). As well as images for Culture and sports in Springfield, Illinois.

Culture would be music and film I guess. Performing arts will probably be a separate section eventually and will need its own images, stage, live music etc (as I am certain you realize). I realize the state fair isn't until later on, but some good images of the fairgrounds could suffice until we could actually get you or another Wikipedian to go to the fair and shoot it. Sports, I think we are just looking at the Springfield Jr. Blues, unless you happened to have anything associated with their past minor league franchises. The Illinois General Assembly request is there because all we have is the dome. It would be most excellent if we had something of the legislature actually in session, for a gallery link to commons. I know this is a lot and understand if you can't get to all of it, but any little bit will surely help. IvoShandor 02:54, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Of course, if you wanted, you could shoot any of the sites on this list in Springfield too. : ) IvoShandor 02:58, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
Yeah. Sorry to heap all this onto you, and if I am down that way, which is a distinct possibility given the soon to be warmer weather, I will try to knock some of it out too. Thanks, by the way and I know the weather will get better, I just know it. IvoShandor 03:02, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Want to give you this FYI also, Wikipedia:WikiProject Illinois/Collaboration. So we can discuss what we would like to expand on if you are willing.--Kranar drogin 05:28, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cleanup tags

Hi, best not to "subst" things like "unreferenced" etc. For more details see WP:SUBST. Rich Farmbrough, 15:57 27 February 2007 (GMT).

Probably not, I'm just clearing up the stubborn undated maintenance tags, which includes "substed", botched parameters and protected pages (and idiosyncratic tmplate redirects, and ...). I only do it occasionally because it's a bit of a hassle to boil it down to the stubborn ones. Rich Farmbrough, 16:29 27 February 2007 (GMT).

[edit] Vanishing October 5 Deaths

It was the "-->" remark closing tag that did that. Since that was removed from the "Births" section, then next closing remark tag was the one after the "Deaths" section. It happened with this http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=October_5&oldid=111162216 edit. In case you really wanted to know :-D -- Borameer ™ 18:56, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hey

Finally getting around to your message. I think you probably shoulda skipped the mention of 'vanity' and just gone on artistic grounds, or the fact that there are 100's of photographer self portraits to choose from and that is not the best one. As soon as there is argument over the use of images in an article I take it to the talk page, it's not a big deal if an ugly photo stays up for a few days. You could have probably skipped your last post on his page as well, it didn't do anything to improve the situation. I think you are getting close to being admin material, but you need to take things less personally. Section 6 from this article may help, I read it the other day and thought it was a really good way to detach oneself from certain situations. [3] -Ravedave (Adopt a State) 04:58, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Very cool article. I'm going to save it. I contribute to textbooks from time to time, and point #1 reflects a long-standing practice of mine. Point #6 reflects something I need to work on. Thanks for your feedback. I hope the new baby thing is working out well for you. Enjoy it, they grow up fast. Rklawton 05:23, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Skydiving "typo"

This seems to be a blatant attempt at vandalism, this can be proved by the fact that the "N" key and "R" key are on different sides of the keyboard, I would be interested in your opinions on this. Thanks 1B6 15:36, 1 March 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Just a little self-tooting my horn

I was allowed to stand with the obnoxious paparazzi ("Who do you photograph for?" "Wikipedia." "Oh, Wikipedia...do you have some kind of card or anything?" "Not really...." "Okay, go ahead.") and photograph Angela Bassett and her husband Courtney Vance - I am pretty happy about the results, and had to share them. Check out their pages. Dave (PS - I see you got as far as I did on Sexual objectificatio - hahaha - crazy, right?) --DavidShankBone 01:45, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] East brunswick NJ Pub Safety

you would think he'd at least spell it right the second time. ThuranX 00:01, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

And, can we get a WP:SNOW early close? LOL. ThuranX 00:13, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Can anyone edit my page?

when I clicked on my name some random thing about kwame popped up. WTF? me > you 02:38, 4 March 2007 (UTC)Malik1

SOMEONE JUST CHANGED IT AGAIN WTF me > you 03:04, 4 March 2007 (UTC)Malik1
Thank you me > you 03:12, 4 March 2007 (UTC)Malik`

[edit] Howdy and thanks

Thanks for the metadata tip. I have to admit I don't know how to do what you suggest, though. But thanks for that link - I originally start photographing for Wikipedia because I fell in love with how people collaborated to form a consensual sense of what is and is not true, real, etc. I will never forget when the 2006 Qana Airstrike page took off its dispute tag. I was like, Wow! Jews, Muslims, Americans, Arabs, what have you, can come to some kind of agreement to say, at the very least, "this is what happened, no doubt." I noticed there were few photographs on the pages, and I had a new camera, so I started to carry it around. It was also a good way to contribute value while rarely involving myself in editing arguments (although I still sometimes get trapped - sexual objectification, for example). I'm not so good at keeping my emotions out of my arguments, and I try to stick to photos. Anyway, since I started (last July) I now like to watch and track my photos, more so to see how WP can be used. I also hope I contribute photos of decent enough quality that those who can't afford Getty Images rates, et. al., can turn to the site to find photographic representation of whatever they need. Who knows if that will catch on anytime soon, but I hope so. Anyway, thanks for the links, advice and good words. Dave --DavidShankBone 05:18, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Adminship

I'd like to nominate you for WP:RFA. You ready? -Ravedave 04:22, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Tuesday would work better for my schedule. Rklawton 05:12, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
Tuesday it is. You may want to start pondering the questions on Template:RFA and read the current nominations on WP:RFA to see what questions you may be asked. -Ravedave 05:18, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Images

Hi Robert, thank you for the message. Concerning the second image, I'll contact the uploader for the source. I'm looking forward to your RfA! :) - Anas Talk? 14:34, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Hm, I see you've already tagged the image. I'll just leave the uploader a message then. Thanks. - Anas Talk? 14:44, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] James Buchanan Page

Your input is requested at the Talk:James Buchanan page. The problem is that people are arguing for the inclusion of VERY poorly sourced material in the article. I'd appreciate your input, as you seemed very level-headed in your initial comments on that page.K. Scott Bailey 05:21, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Submitted for RFA

Ravedave would like to nominate you to be an administrator. Please visit Wikipedia:Requests for adminship to see what this process entails, and then contact Ravedave to accept or decline the nomination. A page has been created for your nomination at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Rklawton. If you accept the nomination, you must formally state your acceptance and answer the questions on that page. Once you have answered the questions, you may post your nomination for discussion, or request that your nominator do so.
Are you done with your questions, so the nomination can be posted? People seem to be supporting you already :) -Ravedave 16:53, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
Yes, I think so. How do they look to you? I would find it easy to add pages of thoughts, but I'm thinking most folks wouldn't really want to read through it all. Rklawton 16:57, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
Looks good, you going to respond to the general comment/neutrals? -Ravedave 17:28, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New NRHP Collaboration Division

(Message generated via copy and paste, sorry to be impersonal but I am hitting up all members of the project. But hi there, how's the Rfa?} Hey, saw you were a participant in the National Register of Historic Places WikiProject. I thought I would let you know that there is a new Collaboration Division up for the project. The goal of the division is to select an article or articles for improvement to Good article standard or higher. There is a simple nomination process, which you can check out on the division subpage, to make sure each candidate for collaboration has enough interested editors. This is a good way to get a lot of articles to a quality status quickly. Please consider participating. More details can be seen at the division subpage. IvoShandor 11:15, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New WikiProject Illinois Collaboration Division

I am pretty sure you know this but . . .

Hey, saw you were a participant in the Illinois WikiProject. I thought I would let you know that there is a new Collaboration Division up for the project. The goal of the division is to select an article or articles for improvement to Good article standard or higher. There is a simple nomination process, which you can check out on the division subpage, to make sure each candidate for collaboration has enough interested editors. This is a good way to get a lot of articles to a quality status quickly. Please consider participating. More details can be seen at the division subpage. IvoShandor 11:26, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Congratulations!

Well done on passing your RfA with 89% support - that's a great achievement! A Bureaucrat will be along shortly to issue you with a shiny new set of admin tools. If you have any questions about using them then please ask and I will do my best to answer. Good luck and happy mopping! (aeropagitica) 17:16, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! No doubt I'll have a lot of questions, too. I was never much of a "direction reader" - until I started skydiving. Now I even read the instructions on the back of toothpaste tubes - just in case. Rklawton 17:49, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Congrats Rklawton!

Though I haven't had many dealings with you (and, in fact, you got me 24 hour banned for 3RR), I think you'll make a great admin, which is why I gave such full-throated support in your RfA. People probably think we're friends from way back or something, based on how I supported your candidacy. Wouldn't it be funny if people knew the truth, that my first experience with you was being reported by you for 3RR?!?  :) K. Scott Bailey 17:21, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

It was my pleasure! And I'm just glad such a deserving candidate made it through.
BTW, if you have a chance, could you take a look at the discussion on the Bureaucrats Noticeboard, regarding the mini-controversy about the Chacor RfA discussion page? It's regarding some comments I left there as an extension and expansion of my vote to oppose. The thread I created was blanked repeatedly by three separate editors (tag-teaming, maybe?), placing me at risk of 3RR. Finally, the thread was blanked AGAIN, and the page immediately protected to enforce the blanking. I protested on the BN, because it was there that someone had requested it be protected. The famed SlimVirgin just weighed in against me, citing an ESSAY entitled "Don't be a dick", which I felt was completely inappropriate. If you review it, and find that I was in fact being a "dick" or that I somehow violated protocol, please let me know. I feel I can trust you to be fair, and would appreciate your thoughts on the matter. If you don't want to dive into the middle of the discussin there, perhaps you could communicate through my discussion page, if you have the time.
Anyways, congrats again on your well-deserved adminship!K. Scott Bailey 17:53, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
I fully understand why you are not getting involved. It seems quite apparent that I've stumbled into the middle of a beehive of a clique. Good luck with the tools, RKL!K. Scott Bailey 00:58, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
Actually, I've been in meetings and working on a project. I'll take a look, but it'll have to be later tonight. Rklawton 01:48, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
I'll completely understand if you want to steer clear. It seems I've unintentionally stirred up a real hornet's nest here, and I don't want you to have to get in the middle of it if you don't have to.K. Scott Bailey 02:24, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
OK, I read through the RfA, the RfA's talk page, the deleted thread, and the thread on the notice board. Assuming there's nothing else, I'm pretty clear on what happened. First, listen to Taxman, he seems to have a really level head about all this and probably has a lot more experience than I. Second, the lesson to learn from this, having just experienced it myself, is that RfAs are highly personal. Most folks who accept an RfA nomination have put a significant amount of time and thought into their contributions. As a result, all comments for, against, or neutral cut to the core. Next, don't agitate the non-existent cabal. If they existed, they wouldn't like it ;). Lastly, thank you for bringing this to my attention. I don't know if I've been helpful in this response, but thinking through these issues really helped me sort out my feelings regarding the RfA process. Please don't hesitate to ask me for a hand in the future. Rklawton 02:45, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
I'm still trying to understand what I did wrong in the initial phases of the conflict. I didn't post any personal attacks on him, just my feelings on why I couldn't support any future RfAs regarding him. I honestly don't know where else I could have put my thoughts on the matter. I appreciate your taking a look at it though.K. Scott Bailey 02:54, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
As far as "wrong" goes, it was just a matter of sensitivity to the nominee and not a policy or guideline violation (per Taxman). Is there a rule that says you have to be sensitive? I don't know of one. Is there a rule about deleting topical threads from talk pages. Yes. However, I think you could have achieved the same objective by holding off until the former nominee's next (if any) RfA. Assuming you haven't changed your mind, you'll want to do that anyway – thereby making the edits in current dispute redundant. Rklawton 03:19, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Congratulations

I'm pleased to inform you that you are now an administrator. Please read all the material on the administrators' reading list before testing out your new privileges. For instructions, please see the administrators' how-to guide. Best of luck — Dan | talk 17:34, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Grats! It's pretty cool that I welcomed you and submitted you to RFA, when can I submit you for beurocratship? :) -Ravedave 02:05, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
You first. Rklawton 02:11, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
I'll stick to editing WP for *fun* :) -Ravedave 02:53, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Congrats

From ObiClownKemosabe!!! Ronbo76 17:41, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

From me to, you really deserve it - have fun with the tools! Ryanpostlethwaite contribs/talk 17:46, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! Rklawton 17:47, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

And congratulations from me too... The Rambling Man 17:58, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! I'll give it my best shot. 30 minutes and no screw-ups so far (actually, I haven't even taken a wrapper off the box let alone read the instructions yet). Cheers, Rklawton 18:01, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Congrats! I wish I could have nominated you like we talked about, but I'm glad that you got the position. alphachimp 03:35, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Silver nitrate.gif

I see you tagged this image as "orphaned, fair use", but the copyright applied isn't a fair use copyright. Thoughts? Rklawton 15:58, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

My mistake I was just trying to tag it as orphaned since it was replaced by this [4] image. I can put it through the IFD process if you think that would be better. SirGrant 17:45, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] User:Purgatory Fubar

Re: Myspace
Links normally to be avoided section 10. Just following Wiki guide lines. Purgatory Fubar 19:12, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page. Rklawton 19:17, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

BTW, Congratulations on your adminship. Purgatory Fubar 19:52, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

It seems that the My Space link to Julien Aklei is a dead link. Correct me if I am wrong. Purgatory Fubar 19:56, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] March 14

So . . . which do you hate more — "Pi Day" or "Steak and BJ Day"? Either way, excellent job or keeping up with the changes, you're too quick for me!  :-D -- Borameer ™ 20:19, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

My wife is a mathematician, so I must say I like Pi (though it wouldn't hurt my feelings to see the article AfD'd). Gotta run now, you're on your own for a few hours. Rklawton 20:23, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Message from Nahid

Congratulations ! You have become an admin. It's my pleasure to meet with an experienced photographer as well as person. Here it is:

This user [5] an administrator on the English Wikipedia.

Thank you :)--NAHID 20:59, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] James Buchanan

Re: Open RfC on Talk:James Buchanan == The people attempting to insert pop history and Salon.com as reliable sources in the Buchanan article have opened an RfC on it. I'd appreciate your participation if you have the time. Thanks.K. Scott Bailey 15:07, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

OK. I'll keep an eye on it and add my two bits after things develop. Rklawton 15:14, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Barnstar!

WikiProject Illinois Barnstar
For your work on Illinois related articles, especially the outstanding images you have contributed here and to the commons, I hereby award you the WikiProject Illinois Barnstar. Keep up the good work! --Dual Freq 17:07, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] James Buchanan

Re: Where do we report this kind of vitriol? ==

This was posted on Talk:James Buchanan. I was wondering what the procedures for reporting such vitriol were? Here's the direct quote, followed by a link to the diff page.

Wait, did you say Baker is a professor? That type often has a liberal leftist, gay-leaning bent. And, John, aren't Henry Holt Publishers and The New York Times sort of ground-zero of the liberal biased media? Did you say Arthur Schesinger!? Wasn't he a Democrat? It's anyone's guess why they hate America so much. Most of those New York City types of publishers employ open homosexuals so what can you expect? I've just searched the Fox News web site data base and there's absolutely ZERO mention of James Buchanan being one of them homosexuals. And ditto for the Washington Times and National Review. I guess we can put this whole sad James Buchanan homosexualty issue to bed! Just not with a guy. Seriously, if you have citations, put it up. I'm not interested in additional protests of how I miss the point and keeping this out is not the teensiest-weensiest bit homophobic. Spare me.CApitol3 17:29, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AJames_Buchanan&diff=115598068&oldid=115591581

The editor is clearly engaging in both veiled personal attacks on people who disagree with his/her position, as well as speculations that do not conform with WP:AGF. While it seems to reveal much about the underlying motivations of this user, I find it completely inappropriate for the forum. Your thoughts?K. Scott Bailey 18:09, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

It looks to me like an attempt at humor. The nice thing about it is that you don't have to say anything at all. That comments speaks loudly for itself, and no reply is required. Here's something else to consider. At some point a few editors will make a serious attempt to increase the article's classification, and whatever nonsense has been added to the article will be removed at that point. The offending editors, if they're even around to defend their work, will be soundly defeated. Agenda pushing editors usually lose out to the concerted efforts of editors who are working to raise an article's quality. We've got quite a few "Sexuality of..." articles that are the direct result of POV pushers losing out in just this way. Rklawton 18:58, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
It seemed ironic to me that the true colors of the opposition began to shine through in the post where he/she was attempting to point out that the OTHER side was agenda-driven. In my case, it's especially ironic, since I'm a mostly liberal Democrat, who that person is accusing of being homophobic. Honestly, if they can find a scholarly treatment of the material in question, I have no problem including it. They don't believe that this is really my position, but it is. I'm almost to the point where I just say, "Put whatever the hell you want in there" and just remove it from my watchlist. I've grown weary of being insulted.K. Scott Bailey 19:03, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] OurSchoolReunion.com

Fair deal. I'll admit that I do growl at some folks more than I should. I agree that he should be encouraged to participate more. I was trying to point that out, but perhaps I was a bit short... Thanks... --Mhking 02:51, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] User:RevRagnarok RfA

Re: User:RevRagnarok RfA

You wrote: "Opposing this candidate because he has (as opposed to pushes) a POV is POV pushing." No, it's not when the POV of that user is directed against diversity. The English speaking Wikipedia does not need yet more US centred systemic bias. Supporting that user because of his POV may qualify as POV pushing, not the opposite. —KNcyu38 (talk • contribs) 02:57, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Replied on user's talk page. Rklawton 03:22, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
Weird question. No, but it's not what your voting comment is about ("as opposed to pushes"), nor my above response to it. I'm actually opposing this user on the grounds of the voluntary display of his POV and the way he handles criticism directed against that voluntary display. You can't put a strong POV userbox (like the anti-BE and anti-EU boxes) on your page and expect no negative responses at all. As long as one user doesn't intend on editing articles pertaining to her/his POV, s/he shouldn't put it there. —KNcyu38 (talk • contribs) 03:43, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Jane (dinosaur)‎

I am going to be headed to see her. I was wondering, what pics do you think I should get of her? Here is the link Jane (dinosaur)‎.--Kranar drogin 03:40, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Ok, I think that is a bone on her, and there is a bone that has a bur on it they think was cancer that killed her. I saw the Discovery channel bit on her. It was a good one.--Kranar drogin 04:15, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] List of pet peeves

Re: huh

What are you talking about? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by EragonFragonGragon (talk • contribs).

Yeah, it looks fine. There is nothing inappropriate. No porn, no violence, no discrimination.

Sorry champ, didn't participate in that a year ago. It good list. looks like lots of —The preceding unsigned comment was added by EragonFragonGragon (talk • contribs).

==James Buchanan Re: There is a "vote" going on at Talk:James Buchanan

They're now "voting" on a proposal by one of them regarding reinsertion. I actually made a simple proposal, that--for some reason--was rejected. Your input would be appreciated.K. Scott Bailey 02:24, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Never mind, Rklawton. I've grown tired of being attacked, and am withdrawing from the debate, and removing James Buchanan from my anti-vandalism watch list. Good luck if you actually enter that debate. They're like sharks on the attack.K. Scott Bailey 04:46, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

I think the problem is in the process of being resolved now. If you could take another look, I'd appreciate it.K. Scott Bailey 17:26, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] James Buchanan

Re: Regarding your comment on Talk:James Buchanan ==

(I'm posting my thoughts here as well as there, since I don't know if you're watching that page.) Are you then in opposition to my current proposed paragraph? If so, I'd encourage you to take a look at my analysis of the sources available on Buchanan. The only one that seems clearly agenda-driven is Loewen. And two of the three other books that discuss Buchanan delve into the speculation about he and King. If you'd like, you could go down to your library when you get the chance and take a look for yourself. I've become convinced that the speculation is widespread enough to at least merit mention, but should not be given undue weight by the implication that there's evidence supporting the speculation.K. Scott Bailey 18:56, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] User:Kscottbailey

Re: Question on Policy

Is it acceptable for a user to discuss me on their talk page, and then ban me from their talk page when I attempt to respond? Additionally, is it acceptable for that user to then blank my response, replacing it with the following quote, "F-ck off from my talk page"? The user is Jeffpw.K. Scott Bailey 12:56, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Here's the link to the diff that shows what he's doing. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jeffpw&curid=1929953&diff=117246051&oldid=117245895 In it, he calls me a "useless dickhead who should be thrown off a cliff." Do WP:NPA and the various policies on making threats apply to talk pages?K. Scott Bailey 13:00, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
You'll want to read up on the civility policy. Rklawton 13:01, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
What portions? I read it, but it doesn't seem to deal directlly with whether or not people can use their usertalk pages in this way. Also, does placing a message on someone's talk page qualify as harassment or stalking (as he accused me of)? I read WP:STALK and it didn't seem to qualify, but as a newbie, I'll candidly admit I may not know what I'm talking about.K. Scott Bailey 13:10, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
Folks can use their talk pages however they wish. But... Civility is a code for the conduct of editing and writing edit summaries, comments, and talk page discussions on all Wikipedias. Whereas incivility is roughly defined as personally targeted behavior that causes an atmosphere of greater conflict and stress, our code of civility states plainly that people must act with civility toward one another.
Thanks. I would place a warning per WP:CIV on his page, but he seems to have many friends in decently high places, which I do not, and I have a feeling that he would simply respond with more invective. Do you have any advice on this matter? Should I just write him off as a bully whom I should summarily ignore in future discussions? Should I make an issue of how personally vicious he is? I'm unsure how to proceed.K. Scott Bailey 13:20, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
I find the "unwatch" feature a great stress reliever. Rklawton 13:29, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
So you would recommend inaction over action in this case? Maybe it's the high school athlete in me, but I've never liked backing down from a bully, which this guy clearly is. You're probably right, though. What are your thoughts on James Buchanan? Am I right to simply step away? I've made some compromises in the discussion, but inclusion of Loewen is a deal-breaker for me. It seems as if the other side won't budge off their position. Should I just let them ram through their changes, and edit out Loewen afterwards? I truly think his inclusion damages the article greatly.K. Scott Bailey 13:34, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
Because WP:CIV said that threats should never be ignored, I took this to the ANI. It appears that they are currently handling it.K. Scott Bailey 14:13, 23 March 2007 (UTC)


[edit] My RfA

Thank you for support in my unsuccessful RfA. I appreciate the support, and am disappointed on being judged by what in most opinions seem to be the wrong things. Until next time, edit on! :) — RevRagnarok Talk Contrib 03:31, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Beyoncé Knowles

I thought I might take this to you as a third opinion. I am having trouble with the "Controversy" part of the article. The video is dark, grainy and I cannot tell if it is Beyoncé Knowles or not the other citations are relying on this video. I have deleted the section as unencyclopedic content by some one keeps adding it back. I think the link would violate WP:RS WP:SPAM WP:COI Links normally to be avoided. Sections, 1,2 and 3. What do you think? I would love to hear what you have to say. Purgatory Fubar Converse or Snafu 18:24, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Except for the video link, the citations appear to satisfy RS, SPAM, COI, and EL. In fact, EL doesn't apply because these links are used as citations. The video link fails RS as anyone can load anything onto YouTube and while the video is consistent with what is described by reliable sources, the reliable sources don't actually say that this particular clip is authentic, and, as you pointed out, the image's identity isn't obvious. Unless or until we can find a reliable source authenticating a particular video clip, then I would suggest removing the clip link from the article.
As to whether or not the section's content is encyclopedic, I have no clue what the standard is for pop-bios. You'll want to sort that out with the other editors. PETA's complaints against Beyoncé have been the subject of several mainstream articles, so you may face an uphill battle there. With the exception of the video link, I think the section is pretty well written. It doesn't draw any conclusions like "Beyoncé hates animals". It just states that she's had a few run-ins with PETA. And while this represents an ongoing campaign by PETA against any number of pop-icons - all of which may find its way into their biographies, we can't ignore real-world events just because they comprise overt publicity stunts. On the other hand, you could also argue that these incidents have little or no bearing on the celebrity involved and therefore they belong in the PETA article under "List of celebrities ambushed" or the like rather than in dozens of various individual biographies. I would suggest this latter option and only include the PETA-related material if a bio also contains sections specifically related to the subject's animal interactions. Rklawton 19:09, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

I like the idea of moving that section. I have only one problem with the rest of the citations, they are all drawn off of that video. Kind of like he said she said while the video does not have clear identity of the person being filmed. 19:18, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm not clear on what you mean. Do you mean to say the articles were written entirely based upon that particular video - and since we question that particular video, we should also question those articles? If so, I don't think that's appropriate. We pretty much take reliable sources at face value and only challenge them when we can find other reliable sources that refute them. Why? Well, we have no way of sorting out exactly what fact checking the authors and editors completed prior to publishing their story. If that's not what you meant, then please clarify. I'm finding this topic rather interesting.

I guess what I'm trying to point out is that the other citations use the same video (the one we both agreed does not have clear identity of the person being filmed.) Now if we were to have a video of , let's say President Bush being ambushed by Peta and the video was dark, grainy and it did not have clear identity of him and that video was used in the very same "reliable sources", would that be appropriate? Purgatory Fubar Converse or Snafu 20:09, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Since the other citations don't point to that exact URL, we can't be sure the video is legit. If they did, then it would be appropriate to include the video link in the article. It's definitely not appropriate to impeach these article citations unless you have another reliable source indicating that these citations are flawed. As I noted before, you have no idea what steps the publications took to fact check their story, and any unsourced speculation on your part would constitute original research. If you can't find a source to state that this confrontation did not happen as claimed in these articles, then you would do well to try a different tact such as one suggested above.

[edit] Your assistance at C.S. Lewis would be appreciated

There are currently a few users--a combination of a couple of anon IPs and one registered--that are deleting contextual information from the Lewis page. They've now done it, I believe, 3 or 4 times. I am not approaching 3RR, as I've only reentered the information twice, but I warned them in the last edit summary not to delete the information again without visiting the talk page to discuss it in the thread I began, or such removal would be treated as vandalism. Could you look over the situation, and possibly contribute if you get the chance? Many thanks,K. Scott Bailey 05:30, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] User:Jeffpw has apparently imploded, and unprotection of the Buchanan page

Just so you know, Jeffpw has--at least temporarily--left WP. It seemed that I'd been able to move toward consensus with him on the Buchanan page. How would you recommend moving forward on the page? Technically, you could unprotect it, and we could insert a short paragraph, similar to the one I constructed. I'll abide by whatever you choose to do with regards to unprotection.K. Scott Bailey 18:55, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Given that there "appears" to be a dispute between Jeffpw and myself on this article, I don't think it would be appropriate for me to unprotect the article. I wouldn't object if some other admin unprotected it, however. I have no intention of editing the article (unless I have some time next month to read a few journal articles on the subject). Rklawton 19:38, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks!

Impressively fast catch on the IP linkspammer. Thanks! --Christopher Thomas 03:51, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Just luck. Rklawton 03:51, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] User:Psychodeathman

Hi there. Just noticed you blocked this user with ACB set, so they may not actually be able to create a new account (usernameblock'd) - Alison☺ 04:00, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Doh! Thanks for pointing that out. I'll fix it. Rklawton 04:01, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 85.103.155.44 (talk · contribs · logs · block user · block log)

"85.103.155.44 - complaint is about something that happened yesterday; blanking one's own talk page is neither a policy vio nor vandalism"[6]

To clarify -- the user didn't blank his own talk page, he blanked an article discussion page. This was after his 'last warning'. --Xiaphias 04:28, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Ah, my bad. The only edit he had in the last 24 hours was to blank his own talk page. Typically, if an IP vandal's edits are older than a few hours, it's harder to be sure we're dealing with the same person. Rklawton 04:46, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Question on Sourcing

I understand that you're not really on board with the consensus reached about Buchanan. I was just curious as to why that is, since we've expunged both Loewen and Salon, and rely almost exclusively on two popular biographies of the man, as well as Boller's Not So!, which seems a relatively even-handed treatment of the issue. Is it your opinion that ONLY peer-reviewed essays by noted history professors belong in the article as sources? This isn't in any way an attack, just a curious question.K. Scott Bailey 13:01, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Given the nature of the claim, I think only peer-reviewed material would suffice. However, I don't feel upset about the present version. All things considered, I think it's a good compromise - but that's a very qualified "all things considered." At any rate, I may have some time in early May to hit up JSTOR and see what the journals have had to say on the matter. Once I do that, I'll compare that to whatever version we've got at that point and either update the references to those of a higher quality - or propose some edit changes along with sourced explanations on the article's talk page (out of respect for those editors who have taken considerable time and energy to take the article thus far). At any rate, that's all pretty routine for any project seeking to upgrade an article. Rklawton 20:30, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Username

Hi there! Plase accept my utmost apologies for the (very!!) late reply, I reported the name to AIV because it was extremely similar to Saddam Hussain and it says on WP:USERNAME that they must not contain names of recently deceased people or known celebs etc and although he is not recently deceased I thoughtit would be best to warn him because if I remember correctly I reported another user to AIV for a similar username and I believe he was blocked but the final decision is up to you - Cheers!! Tellyaddict 16:03, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

I fail to see the similarity between these two names:
  • Saddam Hussein Abd al-Majid al-Tikriti
  • Sardar akhtar hussain dogar
Unless, perhaps, you object to the very common name, hussain. Rklawton 16:58, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] User:81.154.150.136

We edit-conflicted while I was looking for the (darn) 3RR block tag. Feel free to lift the block if you think you can communicate with this person. The edit summaries to me make it seem hopeless, but perhaps you can approach it with more patience than me. Cheers! Dina 20:58, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WP:AIV

Thanks for removing my misreport of User:68.101.89.130 to WP:AIV. You beat me to my self revert. I've now given them a vandalism4im and I'll see what happens - although the contribs did not at the time show any recent vandalism, I think the recent edit they made has now shown up. I think that's to do with the server lag there has been this eve, which is now getting better thankfully. Regards. Will (aka Wimt) 00:34, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hello

Hello RKLawton. It's as well you are here because I needed an online admin person as I wish myself to report Inter16. She interfered with my unlogged discussion page by restoring her remarks but wiped all of mine from her own. Is that right? I only came to make constructive edits on my homeland and I seldom read elsewhere. You probably acted from the best of intentions and I have caused nobody else any harm but we need to do 2 things: 1 - clear my name as bad. 2 - discipline Inter16. Balkantropolis 16:15, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page. Rklawton 16:18, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
Yes sir. It was supposed to be on the talk page but I got a littled carried away. I assure you that I will check before editing in future. Balkantropolis 16:20, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
Replied on your talk page. Rklawton 16:22, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
well yes, all from that IP are mine. I dont hide it! Can I say two things. At the time of writing, there was tension between she and I, and there is nothing in that note threatening. I simply wished to say that I won't be interfering with her talkpage so she shouldn't interfere with mine. Balkantropolis 16:27, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

ok from here on. Positive edits only. Thank you for your patience. I fail to see where I have insulted anyone, I didn't use foul language or make deliberate offence that I realised. Either way, it wont be happening again. Balkantropolis 16:44, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Seems like Balkantropolis was right about that article being a nasty hoax. I've afd'd it, and I'm going to indef the two accounts responsible for creating it (they haven't been active in a while, but just for the record.) Fut.Perf. ☼ 17:12, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The is the error

Sorry about that, I was trying to report the user Frenchhog2 for repeatedly vandalizing Sora (Kingdom Hearts) but somehow submitted the wrong name.Stoic atarian 18:40, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

No worries. Rklawton 18:53, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 04/02/06 outbreak

It happened in Fairview as well, two months after the outbreak (died in hospital), per the NCDC database (linked to the article) and an anniversary report on KAIT-TV on Monday. That raised the death toll from 28 to 29 (26 to 27 from tornadoes). CrazyC83 15:12, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re: User talk:Waggers#User:Badbeat30

No worries. I'm fairly new as an admin so am deliberately trying not to be too heavy handed with the mop, so I'm more than happy for more experienced administrators to extend blocks where necessary. Cheers, Waggers 21:02, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice, I'll adopt that approach too. A decision tree would be good, both as a guide for new admins and to ensure a good degree of consistency. I'll keep my eyes peeled. Waggers 21:10, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] User:Pokalo

I have already struck out the warning and apologised for the error. LittleOldMe 13:40, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Vandals are afoot - just not this editor. Rklawton 13:42, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

This user is clearly vadalizing the article Our Lady of the Abandoned Parish with edits such as [[7]] and [[8]], which are not minor formating changes, hence the need for a vandalisms warning. The user is also a new user, created minutes after two previous vandal and sockpuppet were blocked block from editing the same article specifically, which is very suspicious. Stoic atarian 13:56, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

I see that now. On the other hand, novice users can make simple mistakes. At any rate, he should have been reported as a possible sock rather than through AIV (my opinion). I'm watching his account and will block him immediately if I see a clear instance of vandalism. Rklawton 13:58, 5 April 2007 (UTC)


[edit] User talk:DrBiatch

I dont really know much about Wikipedia, but I see your an Admin. While looking up some information for a paper I noticed this editor User talk:DrBiatch. Can someone actually create a user name like that?129.61.46.60 13:51, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Sure, they can create it. They can create a lot worse. And we block such creations on sight. Thanks for the heads up. Rklawton 14:16, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
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