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[edit] Steve DeOssie

I am adding back the change made to your removal of what you deemed "vandalism" to Steve DeOssie's page. I guess apparently anything controversial you deem as vandalism. As a regular listener to the Big Show, I can say this is absolute fact, and he has already mentioned it on today's Big Show. Please listen to the Big Show when DeOssie is on before removing this again. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Crazyd782 (talk • contribs) 20:42, 19 February 2007 (UTC).

If he really says it all the time, then it shouldn't be too difficult to cite a source. RJASE1 Talk 20:50, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
Surprisingly, it is difficult. It is a statement that has been made SEVERAL times (I emphasize several to stress that this was not mis-heard) on "The Big Show" on WEEI. If you are not familiar with the Big Show, I suggest you follow Wikipedia standards concerning a) believing what other editors say, and b) initiating a POV debate. I would also make the case that DeOssie's attraction to younger women constitutes common knowledge, but that can be left alone for now. But my question is, how does one cite something that is heard on the radio? I find it hard to believe that something like that cannot be cited, otherwise the pages of Howard Stern et. al. would not be valid. My edits can easily be verified by simply listening to the station, and I provided a link to do so, but is there a better way?
I understand the common knowledge argument, but per WP:BLP it's necessary to be extra careful to protect Wikipedia from libel allegations. For citation of a program, I would use Template:Cite video - cite the link to the specific program and include the time hack for when he makes the statement. That way everything should be covered. I should emphasize I really am neutral about this particular individual; I just want to ensure that Wikipedia is covered in this particular instance. I believe you that he said this, it just needs to be cited. For the younger women attraction thing, I'm not particularly concerned, but allegations regarding possible admissions to criminal activity (jokingly or not) really need to be sourced. Please let me know if there's anything I can do to help you with the citation. RJASE1 Talk 18:24, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
Alternatively, you could use Template:Cite interview. Also, please don't forget to sign your posts with 4 tildes. RJASE1 Talk 18:37, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] British Pop Tart

RJASE1

This is gainerman here

I need 36 hours because I have meeting with the VP of Sales.

PLEASE STOP THE DELETION OF MY PAGE. THE PAGE IS NOT COMPLETE. PPLLEEAASe —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gainerman (talk • contribs) 16:13, 21 February 2007 (UTC).

[edit] IMMORAL

I have a question for u Is it immoral to steal 5 cents from someone. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Popeyeman (talk • contribs) 17:58, 21 February 2007 (UTC).


[edit] Skip Bayless

While it's probably true that he's a total douche, nevertheless, nicely done in reverting the vandalism. Be advised that his page was just mentioned on ESPN's Cold Pizza, and that's why the trolls are all out -- so if you can (or if you can find someone to) semi-protect the page, it's probably a good idea. --DNL

I put it the request for protection - thanks. RJASE1 Talk 18:19, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism? Sir, I will have you know my company is a legitimate business and I do not enjoy you deleting my hard work. this is a blatant overuse of power. pshaw, sir.

Please read the guidelines at WP:ORG, they will tell you how to establish notability for an article about a business. RJASE1 Talk 18:24, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ann Coulter, a racist

The information is now properly sourced. GeorgeBP 00:59, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Please, check the discussion page of that article and read my sugestions. GeorgeBP 00:59, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Is my paragraph fine as it stands? Should I change the word to prejudice or bigotry? Should I take it off from the beginning and put somewhere else? GeorgeBP 02:33, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

I think the consensus so far is that the article is fine without the additional information in the leading paragraph. Putting controversial labels on this person, as you seem to want to do, is going to harm the neutral point of view of the article, IMHO. RJASE1 Talk 02:36, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
I agree with you that all articles should have neutral point of view, but the thing is, Ann Coulter isn't even ashamed of hating muslims. She says it out loud and doesn't apologize or regret. So if I put that information in the leading paragraph, it won't harm the NPOV, because SHE admits she hates Islam. It's like saying we should take off the anti-semitism information on the lead paragraph of the Hitler article because that's a bad thing and would harm the NPOV, even though HE admits to hate jews.
Oh, and there seems to be a conflict between me and a guy who says Ann Coulter doesn't hate muslims, so I'd like to read your opinion there. GeorgeBP 04:06, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

I'm out of reverts for the day, mind taking care of George's 3rd revert to anti-islam sentiment? Kyaa the Catlord 04:35, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Looks like someone else already reverted it. RJASE1 Talk 04:36, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
I'm only partially here. Watching anime and giggling at George. He did it the fourth time. He's a funny funny guy. Kyaa the Catlord 04:47, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Sorry about that, my laptop was getting really hot and I powered it down for a while for cooling. Kyaa the Catlord 07:55, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] its not vandalism

i add a source. Criticism of this lady should be permitted. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Xsp85 (talk • contribs) 05:04, 25 February 2007 (UTC).

That's fine - I would just make sure you adhere to the neutral point of view policy. Sourced criticism should be included in the "criticism" section of the article. And, no, I'm not anti-Islamic, I'm just pro-Wikipedia. RJASE1 Talk 05:08, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Where is the problem in Ali article?

You want to protect people from hearing criticisms about her? You dont seem to have any problem with her criticism about Islam. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Xsp85 (talk • contribs) 05:12, 25 February 2007 (UTC).

I left a comment on your talk page - I don't have a problem with the criticism, I have a problem with your sources. Wikipedia has a strict policy about biographies of living persons - any information included has to have a reliable source, not some blog. RJASE1 Talk 05:14, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
Hi! The other editor involved may well be pushing a stong anti-Hirsi Ali POV, and you are well within your rights to try to maintain the article's neutrality, but I think you should be careful about calling what appear to be good-faith edits "vandalism". Try not to revert war over it, and bear in mind the 3RR issue. I haven't counted up anyone's reversions, but there's a potential problem brewing. Of course, there's also the BLP issue, as you say above - we obviously do want any claims that are damaging and unsourced to be removed. Just be careful about it, and especially about accusations of vandalism. Metamagician3000 07:12, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] FYI: New template tools available to create your Where I have been section on your user page

I see you have a list of nations and/or states/provinces on your user page. I would like to offer you some templates for this task I created for my own list. One pair of templates will create entries identical to the one I use. (I suggest you copy my legend if you use them.) Other templates will provide just a flag or name (nation or province/state).

Highlights
  • All use a simple code.
    • Nations are identified with a two letter top-level Internet domain code (except for the United States of America, which uses "USA").
    • States and provinces are identified with postal codes (so far anyway).
  • Nation and state/province names are linked.
  • The low level templates return flag images with just the filename allowing you to control the image size and caption.
  • All flag images located so far are SVG.
  • If any flag images or names on your page officially change, your user page will get the update as soon as I know about it.


One drawback
  • Currently the province templates can only look up data for the United States of America and Canada. However, additional capability can be readily added. All I need to do is create a starter template and let you add the provinces.


Templates to build a list of where you have been
Enter this Purpose Sample output Subst this template?
Creates an entry in the list of places where I have been. Rather than call this template, most will call a template listed below. They will call Flag Entry as needed for you.
*‡§Illinois — Illinois (The state where I was born and grew up.)
 No
Creates an entry in the list of places where I have been
*‡§United States of America — United States of America (I visited other nations, but have yet to live in any)
  • Canada — Canada (Year unknown as I was too young to remember)
  • Mexico — Mexico (Twice: 1977, 1982)
 No
Creates an entry in the list of places where I have been. Important: See the notes for GetProvinceName and GetProvinceFlag.
*‡§Illinois — Illinois (The state where I was born and grew up.)
  • Ontario — Ontario (Year unknown as I was too young to remember)
 No


Note: Not all templates in this next category are listed in the interests of space. To see a list of the missing functions, please see {{User:Will Pittenger/templates/GetProvinceName}} and {{User:Will Pittenger/templates/GetProvinceFlag}}.
Templates that look up the flag or name of a nation or province of a nation
Enter this Purpose Sample output Subst this template?
Detemines the name of the country from a code No
Detemines the flag of the country from a code
United States of America Canada
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Detemines the name of the country from a code. Note this relies on a series of templates that aren't listed here in the interests of space. You can find the complete list on the template's page. If a nation is not yet supported, you can add it in my namespace by asking for it on my talk page. I'll create a starter page and you finish it with the instructions I provide. The template also supports using templates from another user's namespace. No
Determines the flag of the country from a code. Note this relies on a series of templates that aren't listed here in the interests of space. You can find the complete list on the template's page. If a nation is not yet supported, you can add it in my namespace by asking for it on my talk page. I'll create a starter page and you finish it with the instructions I provide. The template also supports using templates from another user's namespace.
Illinois Ontario
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Will (Talk - contribs) 06:18, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] HaciendaRadio.com

Well the page got deleted. Is this BECAUSE there was no outside sources? If so, if HaciendaRadio.com were to be published in a local newspaper, would this qualify?

Thanks,

Krosis 06:57, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

The WP:WEB page explains it pretty well. I'm not sure if one mention in a local paper would qualify; the central guidelines say "multiple and non-trivial published works". RJASE1 Talk 14:10, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] You put My File Up For Deletion

How Could You Put ERBEWlogo.gif Up For Deletion? That's My Company's Logo!!! Also That's My Company i'm Talking About!!—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dx2010 (talk • contribs) 18:52, 25 February 2007 (UTC).

[edit] My Site Inappropriate?

How Could It Be Inappropriate? Beacause It's Wrestling?

By:--Dx2010 19:18, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

In my opinion, it's non-notable, as the message explained. RJASE1 Talk 19:19, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Can you kindly be a little more specific about the Cleanup necessary for Grandmaster Chan Sau Chung article? - Debon 20:01, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Please take a look at the page WP:MOSBIO - it explains the correct format for a biography entry. WP:BIOGRAPHY has helpful information on format as well. Also, please don't forget to sign your posts with four tildes. RJASE1 Talk 19:50, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the pointer, will make the necessary adjustments now. CHEERS!!! - Debon 20:01, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

I believe you may have deleted an article I was doing on Kau Sze - Kau Sze, Chan Say Chung and Kan Tak Hoi are all stalwarts in Monkey boxing and am attempting to provide some new information on the topic. - Debon 20:02, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

I think I may have recommended it for deletion because the article didn't explain why the person was notable, and it had no references or sources. RJASE1 Talk 20:04, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
I understand but I am still in the process of writing it, and as you may have surmised, I am new to the wiki so I did not provide the required info at the start of the articles as yet. Oh wow. - Debon 20:16, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
What I normally do is to create the articles in my user space and get them ready before throwing them to the wolves of Wikipedia. :) This article tells you how to set up your own sandbox in your userspace. RJASE1 Talk 20:21, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
Once again thanx man. Heh heh by "...wolves of the wikipedia" I am thinking of including your in the definition too. lol CHEERS!!! - Debon 20:31, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] User:Somethingoranother...

...is incorrigible! Gsd2000 22:14, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your message to franz-kafka

Hi thanks for your message. What I was trying to put across is the fact that it is unfair to say that Max Clifford is responsible for the fact that there are no gay footballers that is hardly NPOV, I was merely putting a few points in his defence which can surely be NPOV. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Franz-kafka (talk • contribs) 18:08, 26 February 2007 (UTC).

I understand - however, you can't put your own commentary there, it has to be sourced. RJASE1 Talk 18:09, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Reptile Palace Orchestra

Hello-

Thank you for notifying me regarding Reptile Palace Orchestra- unfortunately I didn't get the message until just now, after the process has apparently already taken place. I don't know if it's possible to contest this any longer, but I would like to point out that one of the criteria for notability of music related Wikipedia pages goes as follows:

"# Contains at least one member who was once a part of or later joined a band that is otherwise notable; note that it is often most appropriate to use redirects in place of articles on side projects, early bands and such."

The page on Reptile Palace Orchestra stated the fact that a Sigtryggur Baldursson was in the band, who was also a member of the Sugarcubes, which is a notable band in its own right, not to mention that it basically launched Bjork's career.

Thanks. Acornwithwings 19:37, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Since the page was speedily deleted, it can be re-instated without a deletion review - I would just make sure the notability facts you just mentioned are established in the article so it doesn't get nominated again. RJASE1 Talk 19:51, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
Cool, thx for your help. Acornwithwings 21:47, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] For your many, many page protection reports....

For your many, many page protection reports, and keeping me very busy protecting the pages, I, Majorly, herby award you a WikiMedal for Janitorial Service. Keep up the good work! :) Majorly (o rly?) 00:10, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] External Links

I read your comment on External Links and would like to get some clarification as to which external links can be included and which links cannot. As discussed on the Talk page of the Magnet article there were eight links to commercial sites that contain information on magnetics. One user has chosen to remove two of those links from separate companies that appeared to contain valuable information similar to the other links. He has done this repeatedly without contribution to the Talk page. Based on a Wikipedia editor's recommendation, I opened a discussion related to External Links to gain consensus about which links can be included that contain useful information and what the process is to move the valuable content from these sites into the Wikipedia. Based on the four comments, all of the original sources were included in the External Links section with the intention that contributors could move this information into the Wikipedia and properly footnote them.

I have three questions: 1) why have you chosen to remove two of the eight External Links instead of all of them or none of them; 2) why have you not contributed to the Talk page about this issue; and 3) why did you refer to my edit as vandalism?

Thank you. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.205.10.4 (talk) 18:56, 27 February 2007 (UTC).

Please read the policy on external links. Before deleting the links, I took a look at your contributions - they only consist of insertion of links to this particular company website (which sells magnets) on any site even tangentially relevant to magnetism. As you have made no other contributions besides inserting these links, and made no attempt to incorporate any of the referenced material into the articles, I can only conclude that you are spamming, which is considered a form of vandalism. Also, just because someone hasn't gotten around to removing other spam doesn't mean it's OK to include yours. RJASE1 Talk 23:42, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

I just wanted to clarify a few things before I bowed out gracefully from participating in the Wikipedia.

I had originally thought that a number of sites had valuable information on magnetics and should be included. These sites are from a number of different companies (not a single company as you stated) and I included some links to this information as my first foray into the Wikipedia. I found these sites to be useful and did not promote their products on the content I linked to. Subsequently someone removed these links which annoyed me because they provided no explanation of why. This went back and forth in a fairly immature fashion for awhile before a very patient and understandinf editor, Mwanner, stepped in and advised me of the proper method for making additions to the Wikipedia.

All I really wanted was some consistency and information on why people were making decisions about the content I added. I don't really care which External Links are present nor do I have an agenda. But I believe a consistent policy should be followed. Since you are a higher level editor without the requirement to participate in the democratic processes of the Discussion Pages, I'd suggest all external links currently in the article originating from commercial entities be removed based on the information you provided.

I realize that Wikipedia has a spamming problem and I understand the reason for your brusque approach but it does have the effect of putting off newcomers. Unfortunately, the Wikipedia's editing process and oversight seem to be far to capricious for me. Best of luck in your endeavors.

If you say you're not associated with the company, I believe you. You're right in that I was brusque - I should probably report myself for violation of this guideline. Think I've spent too much time lately on recent changes patrol; you get to develop a siege mentality after a while - it seems like there are millions of people determined to add profanity, advertising, and pictures of their own genitalia to Wikipedia. Spam has been a particular problem lately, with some massive attacks from people in places like Russia and Vietnam using multiple computers and open proxies to put advertising links in articles. Almost as bad are the small-time spammers pushing their crap on E-Bay or their home-based business, they're harder to spot.
It's often difficult to obtain consensus on the talk pages for adding links - if the only thing you add is links, you look like a spammer, like the article that I mentioned above states. What I would strongly encourage that you do (if you decide to stick with us despite my slapping you) is to edit the articles to include new facts from the websites you mention, and then cite the websites as a source.
If you decide to stick with us, don't hesitate to ask me for help. RJASE1 Talk 02:06, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] AIV entry

The user you reported to AIV only has one edit and no talk page warnings.Rlevse 03:34, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Ah, nevermind, now appears he's a sockpuppet.Rlevse 03:36, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
that's okay.Rlevse 03:37, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Gomers

Hi RJASE1, I appreciate your help and suggestions and kind manner on my talk page. You rock!

--Bifftar 20:36, 1 March 2007 (UTC)


PS - my dad was stationed in iceland during the korean war - he was a cook in the USAF, i believe. iceland is truly an amazing place - near the army/af base the volcanic rock makes it look like the MOON! sounds like you are a flyer - wow.

[edit] Headpump ?

where did the Headpump page go ?

since Sigtryggur Baldursson was their drummer & recorded their only album with them, aren't they notable enough to be on Wiki ?

confused,

--Bifftar 14:48, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

The article was nominated for speedy deletion because it didn't claim notability and had no reliable sources. Keep in mind that just because the band contained a member who later became notable (either in their own right or as part of another ensemble) doesn't mean that the earlier band is notable on its own - the policy states that reliable sources are more likely to exist if the band "(c)ontains at least one member who was once a part of or later joined a band that is otherwise notable; note that it is often most appropriate to use redirects in place of articles on side projects, early bands and such." So it might be appropriate to make Headpump into a redirect page that points to Sigtryggur Baldursson, the same goes for Reptile Palace Orchestra.
However, the central criteria is still "It has been the subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent from the musician/ensemble itself and reliable." An article on either Headpump or RPO would need to meet these criteria for their own articles. I'm about to look at the sources you list above to see if any meet the reliability criteria. RJASE1 Talk 00:00, 28 February 2007 (UTC)


aside from the Siggi connection I would find it difficult to reliably source and reference Headpump as notable. Seems to me a redirect to Siggi would make sense.

The Reptile Palace Orchestra are different though - fairly sure i can show / help improve noteability there as they have multiple non-trivial reviews that just need to be researched...

--Bifftar 20:40, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

I like your solution of adding Reptile & Headpump sections to the Siggi bio, RJASE1 - makes a lot of sense to me. Though I have to agree w. biffert - the RPO seem notable enough to stand alone

--Debsuls 23:02, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Hang in there

Thanks for the support. I guess everyone reaches a snapping point, and sometimes it is percipitated by the most mundane of things. I guess my problem is I see so much potential in this project (wikipedia as a whole) but it is confounded by what I feel are moronic policies, chief among those the "anyone can edit" policy (for instance, why can anyone edit my user page? Why can an anonymous IP edit an FA article, etc), and people with agendas to push who have confused this with a blog. I think the military history project has the most potential - articles about the military, esp. the US military, written by people with military backgrounds, but stripped of the rah-rah, zero faults mentality of official military web pages. What I'm saying is I keep coming up on edits made by America-bashers to US history articles, material deleted by people who want nothing bad at all written about the military, conspiracy theorists inserting garbage, people of whatever nationality adding language demonizing another nationality (particularly the ones I listed on my user page), clueless edits by people who should stick to writing about non-military topics, the list goes on and on. When you have 4000 pages on your watchlist, you see this happens on a vast scale, and Lord knows how much across all the WPMILHIST articles (30,000 at last count) and wikipedia as a whole. Sure, we can patrol it, but this is volunteer work. After spending 4 hours one morning on a weekend cleaning up and repairing this kind of stuff for free, I just said to myself "WTF am I doing? It's a beautiful day in Japan, the sun is out, I have a beautiful girlfriend, and I'm sitting here taking swear words out of a military history article." I think I just need to get away from this for a while and reconnect with the world a bit.--Nobunaga24 00:04, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] CSD A7 on web radio stations

May I propose, instead of a mass delete of web radio articles, to start a discussion on what, if anything, makes a web radio station notable? Haikupoet 02:03, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Sorry if it looks like I'm doing a mass delete - ran across this category and it was chock-full of spam. I think the criteria is already pretty plain in WP:WEB - did you have something different in mind for Internet radio? I'm open to ideas... RJASE1 Talk 02:09, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
Well, as a stopgap I'd say put them through the regular AfD process instead of speedying them. The other thing is that notability for web radio stations is rather in the same vein as podcasts -- very difficult to ascertain outside of a few specific venues such as Shoutcast and Live365 listings or tuning services like iTunes. (I have been told, however, on WP:DRV, that iTunes is not a reliable indicator of what makes a web radio station notable, so I don't know.) I'd say an open discussion linked from the AfD page, however you'd do that. And btw, I agree -- there's a lot of spam there. At the very least a lot of articles need cleaning up. Haikupoet 02:23, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
Sounds good to me. I already cleaned out the worst offenders from the 'Internet Radio' cat and was just going back on a second look through the ones that were borderline or unsourced. I'm definitely willing to participate in a discussion on a new standard - in the meantime, I'll leave this category alone and move on to the blog category, which looks in even worse shape. RJASE1 Talk 02:26, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
I'd suggest you use WP:PROD instead of speedy deletion on articles of borderline notability that are not relatively new. That avoids overloading the speedy category and the pages still get dealt with in a timely fashion. Thank you, Kusma (討論) 12:30, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
Will do. RJASE1 Talk 13:41, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 78 Records

I have restored this article that you requested speedy deletion of as the result of a recent AfD was keep. You should check whether an article has previously been to AfD first before tagging for speedy deletion, if you still think an article should be deleted then you should nominate via AfD. Gnangarra 12:05, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Normally I do check the discussion, history, and all the links - my brain must have taken a vacation for a few seconds there. Sorry about that. RJASE1 Talk 13:41, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Military history WikiProject Newsletter: Issue XII - February 2007

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[edit] Delation Review: Off The Chart Radio

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Off The Chart Radio. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Leighlast 18:41, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Musicovery

It seems a overly rash on Wikipedia's part to subject the Musicovery article to speedy deletion. Perhaps it may not be as widely known as its competitors Pandora and last.fm, but it is certainly notable. First of all, please see the links on the archived article page, they direct the reader to external reviews of the Musicovery service. Secondly, a recent Google query for "Musicovery" led to 496,000 results returned. Thirdly, the article highlights the novel "mood map" feature of the Musicovery service, which is found on no other Internet radio or music recommendation service. I believe that the company, though small, is well-positioned as a competitor within the Internet radio market. So clearly Musicovery is not "unremarkable" as noted in the deletion tag. Please consider reinstating the Musicovery article.

Waterguzzler 18:47, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Since the article was speedily deleted and was not the subject of an AfD, it can be recreated. Just please be sure to demonstrate in the article that it meets the notability criteria of WP:WEB and include reliable sources in the article. Give me a heads-up when you're ready on what you've got and I can give my opinion. (I should state I'm not an administrator, just an editor - but I'm willing to help.) By the way, if you are associated with Musicovery, you probably shouldn't write the article per this policy. If you're not associated with them, excuse the assumption. RJASE1 Talk 18:52, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
That sounds reasonable, thanks. Is there a backup archive of the article that I can find so that I don't have to rewrite from scratch? Also, since I am not associated with Musicovery, I would be happy to include a "criticisms" section that others have leveled against Musicovery. Would this enhance the neutrality of the article? Waterguzzler 19:23, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
I tried looking in the Google cache, didn't see it - you might try looking in the caches of some of the other search engines. RJASE1 Talk 19:27, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
Oh, and on the criticisms thing - that's fine, but everything has to be sourced. RJASE1 Talk 19:28, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] RE: 21st Century Holding Company

I didn't create that. - User:Patricknoddy/sig 22:38, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Not sure why I thought you did, now that the article's been deleted and I can't check the history. Maybe you made an edit somewhere and it was at the bottom of the page, with earlier results not showing...anyway, sorry about the misunderstanding. RJASE1 Talk 22:41, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Nanotechnology

I congratulate you on your catch of the page for the organization & its founders. Turns out they are an advocacy group with a decided POV, & their publications are used as examples or irresponsible scientific information provision by courses in several universities. I removed the prod, because probably the one article that should stay is the one on the organization, rewritten thoroughly to eliminate linkspam and COI. The others are about to become redirects, which can be done as an ordinary edit. I like to flatter myself that I can detect this sort of thing, but I missed these. I'll clean it up over the weekend. DGG 04:59, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DeadJournal

After finding a lack of published information for this website despite its high traffic, I removed the {{hangon}} tag and merged some information into LiveJournal. What do you think about #REDIRECT [[LiveJournal#Other sites running the LiveJournal engine]] instead of a speedy delete? --Strangerer (Talk) 05:00, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Sounds fine to me. RJASE1 Talk 13:05, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] ABOUT DELETING HALF THE ENCYCLOPEDIA

Please stop putting articles up for deletion. If I find the sources and add a bit more info you have no right to delete them - particularly Abdul Rahman Al-Athel - I have added sources and unorpahned -provide five links from five different articles. I'll find the links and trty to improve a little Ernst Stavro Blofeld "I've been expecting you" 12:35, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

I have added details to Aaron Jones and links. Look if you are going to delete this you may as well delete the acclaimed band he has been succesfuol in Old Blind Dogs and anything else to. Why not just request that I add sources and detail using the "expand tag" rather than just deleting everything. Deletion nomination is a tiresome process and I would rather find information and sources to make them into better articles rather than just wipe it all out. Some of those Dansih actors were notable too Ernst Stavro Blofeld "I've been expecting you" 13:03, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

I think by now I am well aware of what wikipedia is or what wikipedia is not so try not to patronize me as if I don't know by adding those guidelines. Yes they do deserve articles on wikipedia but I do agree with you that some of them need improving into better articles. Why not just tell me the articles that I need to add to and imporve personally rather than giving me many repeaated messages in my talk page? I appreciate your efforts and concern to filter the encyclopedia but most of those tagged are notable articles - some of them have articles on Norwegian wikipedia -Wikipedia needs to be less Anglo-centric and look at the world from different viewpoints and societies. Ernst Stavro Blofeld "I've been expecting you" 13:43, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry if it looked like I was patronizing you with repeated messages - it was unintentional. I was working through the orphaned stubs starting with 'A' and it just happened that there were a bunch in sequence that you had created. You're right, what I should have done is just modified the first message I left you.
The articles were very short stubs, had few or no incoming links, and no sources or claims for notability, which made them candidates for deletion per WP:CSD. I want to emphasize that I didn't actually delete anything, I just put a recommendation on the page. There's nothing stopping anyone from removing the prod tags if they address the concerns.RJASE1 Talk 14:08, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Hi, I also came here because I noticed you were nominating an awful lot of articles for deletion. It's a good idea to take a little time and see if you can improve the article yourself before making an AfD nom. Case in point: a quick Google search shows plenty of reliable sources for World Transhumanist Association, which could be used to improve the article. Taking steps like this will avoid much argument. Aelffin 17:21, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice. RJASE1 Talk 17:23, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Combat Wounded Veteran

As per Wikipedia:Notability (music)

"Important note: Failing to satisfy the notability guidelines is not a criterion for speedy deletion."

Also; "For performers outside of mass media traditions" #5 is "Is frequently covered in publications devoted to a notable sub-culture."

Thanks, Nagelfar 17:23, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

When I nominated it, it wasn't because it failed the notability guidelines, it was because it failed to even claim notability. RJASE1 Talk 17:25, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
That is not the case; c.f. Despite such limited output, the band has gained much underground clout and popularity, much as their contemporary Charles Bronson has.. Regards, Nagelfar 17:29, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
Eh, OK - I guess that's a notability claim. I put it up for AfD so we'll let the community decide. RJASE1 Talk 17:32, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
I suppose it is a little vague. Maybe I should note that the drummer from Frodus is in it rather than just linking without saying anything. Regards, Nagelfar 17:47, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
I think that's a good idea - the page can then be redirected to the drummer's page and its information included in a section there. I'll modify the AfD nomination. RJASE1 Talk 17:49, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] clarification

What do you mean when you say "No sources for notability of publication"? That is has not been cited in scholarly works? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Halle akala (talk • contribs) 20:31, 2 March 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Radio Free America

You recently left an unreferenced tag on this page. I originally started it as a vanity page before Wikipedia started cracking down on that stuff. All of the things listed could be easily referenced, but for legal reasons, I am no longer going to use the name anyway. I would suggest that the article get put on the fast track for deletion as it currently stands. - Agentseven 23:30, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Who are you to try and delete a page on a world famous photogrpaher and artist?

"Non-notable author, books are self-published or from vanity presses." TO HAVE A PAGE REMOVED FOR THE CITED REASON, IS IGNORANT OF THE ARTISTS WORK. Glen E. Friedman's books and work are respected around the world, As well as his opinions, why would you try to delete the page? WHO ARE YOU to say factual information should be deleted? Stay away from the page if you don't like what he does, don't try to have it deleted. Is this some sort of political assasination you are trying to make?

I also just noticed you tried to remove a book entry for FUCK YOU HEROES? what gives you any right to do this? this is a book that has sold tens of thousands of copies world wide, why would you try to have this perfectly written wiki entry removed?

I should look into your status as an editor being revoked!—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.161.111.109 (talk) 06:50, 3 March 2007 (UTC).

[edit] I didn't vandalize the "Intersexuality" entry

What did I do wrong? I noticed that someone had listed Oprah Winfrey on the "Intersexuality" entry, calling her a "noted bitch" and I removed that reference. I figured it was an attack on her. Why am I now accused of "vandalism"? Someone else was the vandal, not me. That's the first time I tried make any contribution to Wikipedia - and now it will be my last. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.131.151.106 (talk) 12:38, 3 March 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Karol Sheinin

Please do not delete the Karol Sheinin entry without further input.
If you'll scroll down to the first set of links you'll notice that there is a second set of articles drawn from large, well-known DT press organs, e.g. The New York Observer, The Wall Street Journal, The Boston Globe, which quote her or explore her blog in some detail below those external links. Ruthfulbarbarity 01:22, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
OK, feel free to remove the prod tag for now - I'm tied up with something else right now but will come back later and see what can be done to source the article with inline citations - unless you want to get started with it. RJASE1 Talk 01:28, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
Alright, I'll see what I can do. Ruthfulbarbarity 04:37, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Links

I'll go remove them... i didn't realize they violated wilkipedia guidlines.

They've already been removed. RJASE1 Talk 03:49, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

I am adding extremely useful and relevant information to the page. People care about the achievements. Please do not delete my inforfmation.

Your links are inappropriate - please read WP:EL. RJASE1 Talk 05:22, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Achievements aren't spam

I added a link to the achievements in an Xbox 360 game, Zegapain XOR. You removed it, claiming it was spam. Many people care about achievements in games, and would benefit from links pointing them to lists that show the achievements. I am merely trying to help the community benefit. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Shadowdude55 (talk • contribs) 05:49, 4 March 2007 (UTC).

If you want, discuss it on the talk page prior to adding. But read the policy on external links first; I believe you're promoting a commercial website and the links are therefore spam. RJASE1 Talk 05:51, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

I would put a link to Xbox.com (Microsoft's website), but some achievements are secret, and can't be viewed unless you have them. The page I linked to is part of a site that shows all achievements, regardless of whether or not they're secret.

I'm sorry, it's still a commercial site. If you want, write about the achievements in the articles and provide a reliable source. Your website does not qualify as a source, because it's self-published. RJASE1 Talk 05:58, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

I see where you're coming from. If I add the link to Xbox.com, and list the secret achievements, would that be alright?

You have to have a source for any of the achievements you list, and the source has to meet these criteria. Then it would be all right. Also, please don't forget to sign your posts with four tildes. RJASE1 Talk 06:06, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Cool, thanks for all your help.Shadowdude55 06:09, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] www.Achieve360Points.com is reliable

The page provides unique information not contained within the original article. There is no misleading information. The link says Achievement List and the page is the corresponding achievement list or marketplace content for the game in question.

The website provides unique information that does have the possibility of change, so simply copying and pasting the information would lead for it to be outdated. For the large amount of games they provide, it would simply be impossible to constantly watch these pages and reflect those changes on the respected wiki article. Also, the site (achieve360points) has unique content not viewable anywhere else and it would be a gross misuse to simply take the documented content and paste it into the article. They work hard to obtain and database this information and it wouldn't be within anyone's rights to take this information and paste it elsewhere.

The site does not sell this information, require the user pay to view the content, nor does it have an objectionable amount of advertisements. No external applications are needed to view the content within the linked page (NON-flash and NON-java). The link was not to search engine results. The site is not a social networking site, a blog, a personal webpage, or an open wiki.

The site provides content that is DIRECTLY related to the article's subject. Unless you are aware of this, each Xbox 360 game has what we call "achievements" and "marketplace content". Anyone that plays these games is aware of this fact. This information is necessary for anyone that wishes to enjoy these games to the fullest extent. This information does have the possibility of changing, thus the absolute reason for an external link.

I do not own the site that my link was pointed to, so it is not a conflict of interests.

Please be aware of this and if a problem persists, I will contact someone of higher authority. No rules are being broken.

Achieve360Points was was even granted a featured article in Official Xbox Magazine —The preceding unsigned comment was added by XxCAPiTAxX (talk • contribs) 06:46, 4 March 2007 (UTC).

I understand your position, but I believe the links are intended to promote the website, and that it does contain a large amount of advertising. I also don't believe they add anything beyond what the articles would give if they became featured articles. You're certainly welcome to make your case on the articles' talk pages, if you can get consensus, then I will have no objection. But currently I believe it's spam. RJASE1 Talk 06:59, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Well...

Well, hear me out. I am not posting achieve360points.com. I am posting "Achievement List", and it is the user's choice whether or not to use the EXTERNAL link. External links are meant for offsite support, are they not? So, why would it be considered spamming? --XxCAPiTAxX

I already made my arguments, above. I posted a question about this site on the admin's noticeboard here, and they agreed it was spam. RJASE1 Talk 08:16, 4 March 2007 (UTC)


Is there any way that we can possibly update with the articles achievement list? I promise it is not for advertising/spamming. We are just trying to help out. --XxCAPiTAxX 08:22, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

As I said earlier, you can include any information so long as it sourced, and this website just doesn't count as a reliable source. I'm sorry, I just am not going to be convinced that adding this link to dozens of articles is not spamming...especially when you're making no other contributions besides adding external links to this ad-heavy gaming site. RJASE1 Talk 08:24, 4 March 2007 (UTC)


Look, I'm not trying to cause any trouble. Beleive me, I respect what you guys are doing. But, what other contributions would you accept? What if we got permission from www.xbox.com? The site has ads, like many other sites do, only to keep the site running. And I do not appreciate being called a sock puppet. --XxCAPiTAxX 08:34, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Comixfan article

Hi RJASE, this is Eric (aka Comixfan). I just noticed that Leuko has added a prodwarning to the Comixfan article. I'm really at a loss as to what else to do, here. The site's longevity, reputation, and status all speak for themselves, but that doesn't seem to be enough to warrant inclusion. Any suggestions? --Comixfan 07:30, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

You mentioned that the site had won awards, etc. - got any sources? With a proposed deletion you have five days to get the article within standards (or at least to make a case that you will be able to get it there eventually). Oh, and call me Tim. RJASE1 Talk 07:32, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Hey Tim, yes, the site's won awards, but this was years ago when it was still establishing a rep. I've found a few links, though... should I post them to the article? --Comixfan 07:48, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Put them in the talk page for now, with a short note on what they are...I'm about to hit the rack, but will take a look at it tomorrow. RJASE1 Talk 07:49, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
OK, I left a request at WP:COMICS for an editor to help out with the article, since I'm not really knowledgeable about what's notable in this particular industry. Good luck and let me know if you need any more help...and don't forget to change your username! RJASE1 Talk 21:32, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Another link question

About my last warning, I sincerely do not see where this is spamming since I just wanted to give a good link to a biography in french for Zeeman and a way for french speaking people to find information about the indian cinema. I do understand that you prefer not to see any external links in wikipedia. Roger that. Good day.

Hello I decided to "enroll" on wikipedia because I think it is much more "human". My comment is about the Zeenat Aman page where you edited my external link leading to a french bio. My natural language is the french even if I do use english every day. I would like to know if your suppression of my link is due to the fact that this page is not in english? I checked, the bio in the external link is well made and the external site does not use any advertising. I did find this site was good so I thought it was a good idea. I made another link in bollywood, it was also deleted but another one from somebody else is kept while appearing not as good as the one I posted. I do not want to start a war about such a pity subject but I would really like to understand. Thank you for your time.

Actually, if you look at the the policy on external links, English links are preferred. The policy also lays out the other guidelines for external links. RJASE1 Talk 08:15, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
Also, please don't forget to sign your posts with four tildes, thanks. RJASE1 Talk 08:17, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Go Find

Why is a professional review of the album in question an unacceptible link? Please explain.--Mangle 18:32, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

This link seems to me to spam in accordance with WP:EL - the site linked to contains an large amount of advertising. Have you got a determination from an admin that this is an acceptable link? RJASE1 Talk 18:35, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Tiny_Mix_Tapes just added advertising. They operated without it for 5 years. Just now, they added three banners. I don't think three banners counts as a "large amount of advertising." Pitchfork has far more than that, and they are not spam. --Mangle 18:38, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

OK, I'll request a ruling from an admin before removing any more of the links. I noticed the Wikipedia page on the website was deleted as non-notable. RJASE1 Talk 18:41, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

I just noticed that too. What's the deal with that? Shouldn't there have at least been a discussion about that? It's not spam. It's a music journalism site that's been around for half a decade.--Mangle 18:43, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

It must not have demonstrated notability per WP:WEB. RJASE1 Talk 21:30, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
Just listening in from another discussion, but where is the reference that admins determine RS? They might rule on a RfA that was ultimately based on such a debate, but they sually do not decide on that basis. And the community determines the result of AfD, if the question is based on whether there are RSs. As I understand it there is no formal way to determine a particular RS, though it can be discussed on that discussion page (its now ATT, by the way). DGG 22:30, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
If you mean the Tiny Mix Tapes thing, I really was just looking for some quick opinions from experienced editors, and ANI seemed the quickest place to get it. I thought it was pretty a clear-cut case of spam - an editor adding links to a non-notable website on dozens of articles. But I thought I should get a quick reality check before reverting the external links. RJASE1 Talk 22:37, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Pattern of Irresponsibility

Dear Sir,

It seems as if, according to your page, that many have had negative run-ins with your irresponsible actions on Wikipedia. I would urge you to reconsider some of the things you say, as most certainly some of it can be easily construed as defamation, in the legal sense of the word. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Aaronisms (talk • contribs) 19:38, 4 March 2007 (UTC).

Can you give an example of what you would consider defamatory? And yes, I do have some run-ins with editors, seeing that I spend most of my time on Wikipedia fighting vandalism and spam. My only desire is to enforce the guidelines - in the case of your particular page, the guidelines at WP:NOTE, WP:BIO, WP:COI, and WP:AUTO. RJASE1 Talk 21:12, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Unicorn144 (talk • contribs)

Hi RJASE! I think this user should be listed at WP:ANI, not AIV, as it doesn't seem to be a clear-cut case of vandalising. Proper discussion would be more appropriate, so I'm removing the AIV post. Please feel free to take it up at ANI. Cheers! – riana_dzasta 05:02, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Done, thanks! RJASE1 Talk 05:03, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
Ah yes, I noticed you did it while I was writing this :) Thanks. – riana_dzasta 05:03, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] tinymix tapes

Please consider adding www.tinymixtapes.com per this discussion at WP:ANI, thanks. RJASE1 Talk 02:30, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

make a request on m:spam blacklist, I will look at it there. Please include a full reasoning as to why it needs blacklisting. Thanks :D —— Eagle101 Need help? 05:30, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
Respond on my talk page thanks —— Eagle101 Need help? 05:31, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] My inadvertent blundering and mistakes as I try to add a "balanced" point of view to the religious sphere

Dear RJASE1;

First of all let me apologize for "adding" things without really knowing how to do it; I am writing a book which is called "The Revelation of Salvation: the Regeneration of John" which is held by option by Monkfish books; while engaged in the final edit I have been putting in things to Wikipedia from my own book (although never direct quotes as this would not be good for my eventual publishing) and my own sources such as Idries Shah's books "The Sufis" and "The Way of the Sufi".

I certainly do NOT want to me tossed off of Wikipedia: I only want to enlarge and bring into view the "Sufic View" which is Unification; and not the Korean brand; I am speaking of the "brand" that goes back to Ulways el-Quarni; who lived during the time of Muhammed although he never met him. Ulways traced his descent from Elijah; while Muhammed traced his from Gabriel; however for the Sufis "Muhammed" and "Ulways" represent the "left hand" and "right hand" or Providence.

The Sufis themselves have been persecuted and killed for centuries by Moslem zealots and cleric for daring to affirm that there is an underlying unity behind all religions and that ultimately mankind will be ready for theis "final" version of worship; and Christ Jesus is said by Idries Shah to be the "head" of the 4 Major Sufi Orders. This astonishing view has other corollaries ( did I spell that right?) in that the "Advent" of the Lamb actually can be seen at Fatima in Portugal when the "Sun" seemed to "fall" out of the sky and come to earth. What really happened? We know that this happened in 1916; in 1917 Russia was taken over by the Marxists for 70 years; the "70 year period" of their "Babylonian Captivity" after the previous 930 years of christianity. Incidentally Adam died when he was 930 years old. Russia as the largest nation in land mass therefore represents "Adam" symbolically; the 70 year captivity ended in 1987 at the fall of the Wall: it is this "1,000" years that has been the subject of so much debate; I only present a different point of view as valid as the others: and it also conforms to the facts seen in the Revelation.

I have to go to work; I will not add anything more until you give me some kind of an idea of how to proceed. I will add one thing: the "two beasts" of Revelation first seen at chapter 13 are the AXIS as the "three-in-one" beast out of the sea; and MARXISM as the beast out of the earth: and I have plenty of documentation to back this up. The scarlet beast seen in chapter 17 is "Red China". Russia's 1,000 year period is thus the "1,000" period so argued over; I just present the fact that this period went from 987 to 1987; there is more; of course. thank you for your time christopher witt diamant ```` unicorn 144Unicorn144 16:43, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] External links

Hey man, sorry about that. I don't usually edit Wikipedia so I didn't know there was the message feature.

Achieve360Points lists are fully accurate and the website is a stable of the Xbox community. The site was featured in Official Xbox Magazine and as a Gamer Spotlight on Xbox.com. Since I have also used this website I know for a fact that it is accurate.

If you still aren't allowed to have it up, so be it; I won't add the Achievement Lists to any more pages. Please don't ban me from the site, I find a lot of interesting material over here.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

No problem - just be sure to check the policy on external links sometime. Oh, and don't forget to sign your talk page posts with four tildes. RJASE1 Talk 19:11, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] This is RIDICULOUS

Dude, all of this stuff is legit. I don't understand why it is such a big deal. The site has been featured by OFFICIAL Xbox Magazine (see that? OFFICIAL) and Xbox.com, yet another OFFICIAL website. We're just trying to help out, I don't understand what good you're doing anyone if you just leave them there. What, are we linking to porn? It's an Xbox site. All you can do is argue with other members of the site to make yourself feel better. Sockpuppet my ass, CAPiTA's trying to help out people who look at this site while all you can do is try and make it harder for people to find info. Do whatever you want, but you're...whatever man. It's an external link. If the goal of this site is to help people then do it, don't make it hard for everyone to post crap. Sheesh.

B Nanny —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 12.217.241.160 (talk) 19:12, 5 March 2007 (UTC).

Please read the policy on external links and refrain from making personal atacks - thanks. My belief is that the links are simply promoting the website and the advertising that's on it. RJASE1 Talk 19:15, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] I reverted some vandalism on your user page

The user was User:Bamelement199. Will (Talk - contribs) 16:57, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] FYI: I have some tools that may simplify your "Where I have been" secton of your user page

I see you have a list of nations and/or states/provinces on your user page. I would like to offer you some templates for this task I created for my own list. One pair of templates will create entries identical to the one I use. (I suggest you copy my legend if you use them.) Other templates will provide just a flag or name (nation or province/state).

Highlights
  • All use a simple code.
    • Nations are identified with a two letter top-level Internet domain code (except for the United States of America, which uses "USA").
    • States and provinces are identified with postal codes (so far anyway).
  • Nation and state/province names are linked.
  • The low level templates return flag images with just the filename allowing you to control the image size and caption.
  • All flag images located so far are SVG.
  • If any flag images or names on your page officially change, your user page will get the update as soon as I know about it.


One drawback
  • Currently the province templates can only look up data for the United States of America and Canada. However, additional capability can be readily added. All I need to do is create a starter template and let you add the provinces.


Templates to build a list of where you have been
Enter this Purpose Sample output Subst this template?
Creates an entry in the list of places where I have been. Rather than call this template, most will call a template listed below. They will call Flag Entry as needed for you.
*‡§Illinois — Illinois (The state where I was born and grew up.)
 No
Creates an entry in the list of places where I have been
*‡§United States of America — United States of America (I visited other nations, but have yet to live in any)
  • Canada — Canada (Year unknown as I was too young to remember)
  • Mexico — Mexico (Twice: 1977, 1982)
 No
Creates an entry in the list of places where I have been. Important: See the notes for GetProvinceName and GetProvinceFlag.
*‡§Illinois — Illinois (The state where I was born and grew up.)
  • Ontario — Ontario (Year unknown as I was too young to remember)
 No


Note: Not all templates in this next category are listed in the interests of space. To see a list of the missing functions, please see {{User:Will Pittenger/templates/GetProvinceName}} and {{User:Will Pittenger/templates/GetProvinceFlag}}.
Templates that look up the flag or name of a nation or province of a nation
Enter this Purpose Sample output Subst this template?
Detemines the name of the country from a code No
Detemines the flag of the country from a code
United States of America Canada
 No
Detemines the name of the country from a code. Note this relies on a series of templates that aren't listed here in the interests of space. You can find the complete list on the template's page. If a nation is not yet supported, you can add it in my namespace by asking for it on my talk page. I'll create a starter page and you finish it with the instructions I provide. The template also supports using templates from another user's namespace. No
Determines the flag of the country from a code. Note this relies on a series of templates that aren't listed here in the interests of space. You can find the complete list on the template's page. If a nation is not yet supported, you can add it in my namespace by asking for it on my talk page. I'll create a starter page and you finish it with the instructions I provide. The template also supports using templates from another user's namespace.
Illinois Ontario
 No

Will (Talk - contribs) 16:58, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mexican food

Hello, I noticed you removed a very useful and informative Tamale video off of the tamale page. It is not spam, it was meant to help the readers who would like to see how a tamale is made, not just read about it. I'm not trying to be rude (as type often comes across) I just don't understand why you go around removing USEFUL links that readers USE. If they were irrelevant, people would not use them. Can you give me some clarification of this since everyone just gives me links to other pages talking about Spam, and I do not think adding a useful video is spam. Thank you Mexicanfood 17:23, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

I took another look at the site you are linking to - it seems to contain quite a bit of advertising. The recipes might be more suited to the Cookbooks section of Wikibooks (I see someone else already left a link to this on your talk page).
Forgive my assumption that you're spamming links to this website, but you may inadvertently be fitting the profile of a spammer by adding links to the same site on multiple articles - see this article for some good advice on not setting off the spam radar. I also suggest you review the other policies that the other editor linked to on your talk page - especially the one on external links. In the meantime, please stop adding links to this site unless you're certain they comply with the guidelines. Thanks. RJASE1 Talk


I have carefully reviewed all of the suggested reading. I really feel as if I am adding legitimate material that the readers find useful. I am definitely not "spamming" anything. I noticed quite a few "holes" in the Mexican food coverage and I am trying to be helpful by not only adding links to relevant material but contributing actual articles as well. I am new here and I really felt like everyone started attacking me and deleting my contributions unfairly. I understand there needs to be some sort of "quality control" but not by deleteing everything before checking out the intentions of a registered user. Thank you.

I understand - just to be clear, I'm not accusing you of being a spammer, I'm just trying to let you know what is causing other editors to be suspicious of you. Wikipedia's high traffic makes an attractive target for spammers, who will both add links to their websites and create articles that promote their particular enterprise. What I would recommend doing is, instead of including that site as "external link", to incorporate facts from the site into the article and cite the website page as a source. You should also use facts from (and cite) more than this one website to avoid giving the impression that you're trying to promote it. I would also recommend changing your username per the username policy - having the username you have currently, while adding links to a website that includes "mexicanfood" in the title, also sets off the spam radar, as this is typical spammer behavior. Just a suggestion - happy editing. Oh, and don't forget to sign your talk page posts with four tildes (~~~~), Cheers - RJASE1 Talk 22:31, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Any hope for Unicorn144 ?

Dear RJASE1; Could I add something on the "balanced point of view" to that of the views of the Unification church; surely here I can add what I know to the mix both pro and con without disturbing anyone with anything new; just a point of view that perhaps has never been heard?? You could "pre-edit" it if you like; although I don't know how to do this; I am willing to follow any guidelines so as not to conflict with any policy: just wanting to balance the current "impasse" which has stymied so much of the religious sphere: perhaps some "new" information might enable others to investigate the claims I make objectively in light of the facts: which are beyond dispute for those with the faith; I doubt anybody else would even care what I say about God or anything else: but the ideas might interest those whose minds are open: you know the old saying: "the mind is like a parachute: it only works when it's open". thanksUnicorn144 17:48, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Rabih Chamas

I'm trying to make a page about this Lebanese actor, but it's saying your gonna delete it! I'm going to add lots of stuff to it later. If you need more info about the history of this actor and pictures let me know. How do we post pictures on the page? thanks. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 199.126.7.159 (talk) 05:42, 7 March 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Goldenskate

Hi. I noticed you've been removing all external links to goldenskate.com per WP:EL. What part of WP:EL does goldenskate violate? Kolindigo 19:22, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

The link was spammed across numerous Wikipedia pages by User:Gsk8. RJASE1 Talk 19:23, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
Yes, but that doesn't mean that all links to goldenskate are spam. The ones you reverted were actual sources in articles. Goldenskate is a reliable website. Kolindigo 19:29, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
If I reverted any that were actually sources, it was my error - I thought I only pulled them from the "external links" section. Which article(s) cited them as a source? RJASE1 Talk 19:31, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
Is there any way you can just revert all the ones you took out? Just looking through your user contributions, every one I see was there as a good link. Kolindigo 19:36, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
So far as I could tell, all the links I removed were under the provisions of this guideline, items 1 and 3, especially given the spamming behavior of the person who posted them. Is there any reason the material can't be incorporated into the articles and the websites cited, as opposed to adding linkfarms? RJASE1 Talk 19:42, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
Why should that be necessary? Goldenskate is a good site. It shouldn't be judged a bad site just because someone spammed links to it. Kolindigo 20:44, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

It's necessary because that's the policy on external links, at least the way I see it. Why is so important to provide direct links to this particular site? Why can't the material be incorporated and cited, per WP:EL? RJASE1 Talk 20:47, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] mexicanfood.about.com

Please justify this edit [1] including why mexicanfood.about.com is an inappropriate link, using the exact section of WP:EL it violates, and where you got the list of external domains you work from. Otherwise removing this link en masse does more harm than good in some cases. Nardman1 21:07, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

I replied at ANI - basically, the link was being spammed. RJASE1 Talk 21:17, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
Oh, and I saw the domain name in the RSS feed. Cheers - RJASE1 Talk 21:18, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Destiny

the external link I submitted should have no problem. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.213.243.62 (talk) 00:08, 8 March 2007 (UTC).

Please read WP:SPAM, thanks. RJASE1 Talk 00:09, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ayaan Hirsi Ali

Please do not delete the section on Catholicisms. Does it bother you that informing people that Ayaan Ali is also against Christianity as she is against Islam? Read her book, you will see she is against ALL RELIGION. Its like telling only one side on the story. IF you deleting this section again, then I will delete the section on Islam. xsp85 8:41, 7 March 2007 (EST)

Please read Wikipedia's point of view policy. I've discussed this issue with you before - you can include criticism if you include sources to back up your point, I have no problem with that. So far you haven't provided sources to back up your position. In the future, please take this to the article's talk page and not my talk page, thank you. RJASE1 Talk 01:44, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] /* List of cities on stamps */

Hi RJASE1, I voted on this AfD as a speedy delete, because it's advertising. The main author of the list, User:Daniel C. Boyer, has a long history of self-promotion on Wikipedia--see Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Daniel C. Boyer, from May 2005, for many examples. I don't have any evidence that this is another attempt at self-promotion, aside from the list itself, but it seems natural to suspect that the author is involved with the company somehow. At any rate Boyer has been a Wikipedia editor since 2002; you'd think by now he'd understand basic policies like "no advertisements". It seems like this is a continuing problem, but I'm not sure if it's worth reporting to anyone, and I'm not sure where I'd report it. Do you have any thoughts? --Akhilleus (talk) 04:23, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

I'll take care of it with the WP:WPSPAM folks, thanks. RJASE1 Talk 05:10, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Elm nurseries, external links

Dear RJASE, Confess I'm not as familiar with Ext.Link guidelines as I ought to be but, each case taken on its merits, I'd rather the link was replaced. I think it a fair assumption that readers motivated enough to look the tree up on Wiki would also be interested in finding a supplier. Here in the UK, it's no problem as we have a national search directory called Plantfinder, published by the Royal Hort. Society, but there is no such equivalent in North America? Regards Ptelea 12:45, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Hey, Ptelea - yes, you should probably take a look at the guidelines WP:EL and WP:SPAM - I'm sure your link additions were in good faith, but Wikipedia should not include links to one particular supplier of a product. There are some possible exceptions, but I don't think this would be one of them. If you have any questions about the spam guidelines, please contact me or leave a message at WP:WPSPAM - thanks. RJASE1 Talk 17:06, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ahmed Hulusi external link

On 8 March 2007 you removed from the article on Ahmed Hulusi the external link to Ahmed Baki's article: [http://ahmedbaki.com/english/ "Sufism and Science"], indicating that it was in conflict with Wikipedia's external link guidelines. The link is to the homepage of a site that contains a number of essays by Ahmed Hulusi. It is not a static site. I have reread the guidelines, and I am not sure which of them the link to this page may have violated. Could you enlighten me? I have placed a similar message on the Ahmed Hulusi discussion page, so you may respond there if you like. --Bejnar 16:15, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Replying there... RJASE1 Talk 16:50, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] United DJs Radio

I cant see why the page is any different to any other wiki page about a radio station? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Swon (talk • contribs) 18:47, 8 March 2007 (UTC).

Please see WP:WEB for the notability criteria, thanks. RJASE1 Talk 19:09, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Phillyblog

I just removed the prod. Send it to {{AfD}} if you must. --evrik (talk) 21:36, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads-up - I saw that in my watchlist. Will do. RJASE1 Talk 21:38, 8 March 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Canon 30D External Link

Why is a professional review of the 30D an unacceptible link?


From Wikipedia:External links:

What should be linked?

Sites with other meaningful, relevant content that is not suitable for inclusion in an article, such as reviews and interviews.


Did you read the article before you deleted the link? Wasn't it informative for the reader?


From Wikipedia: Links normally to be avoided


Except for a link to a page that is the subject of the article or an official page of the article subject—and not prohibited by restrictions on linking—one should avoid:

Any site that does not provide a unique resource beyond what the article would contain if it became a Featured article. Any site that misleads the reader by use of factually inaccurate material or unverifiable research. See Reliable sources. Links mainly intended to promote a website. Links to sites that primarily exist to sell products or services. For example, instead of linking to a commercial bookstore site, use the "ISBN" linking format, giving readers an opportunity to search a wide variety of free and non-free book sources. Links to sites with objectionable amounts of advertising. Links to sites that require payment or registration to view the relevant content. Sites that are inaccessible to a substantial number of users, such as sites that only work with a specific browser. Direct links to documents that require external applications (such as Flash or Java) to view the relevant content, unless the article is about such rich media. If you do link to such material make a note of what application is required. Links to search engine results pages. Links to social networking sites (such as MySpace), discussion forums or USENET. Links to blogs and personal web pages, except those written by a recognized authority. Links to open wikis, except those with a substantial history of stability and a substantial number of editors. Sites that are only indirectly related to the article's subject: it should be a simple exercise to show how the link is directly and symmetrically related to the article's subject. This means that there is both a relation from the website to the subject of the article, and a relation from the subject of the article to the website. For example, the officially sanctioned online site of a rock band has a direct and symmetric relationship to that rock band, and thus should be linked from the rock band's Wikipedia article. An alternative music site run by fans is not symmetrically related to the rock band, as the rock band has only indirect connections with that site.

The link did not violate any of the above rules. You might argue that it violates the two bolded rules above. In fact it does not. The editorial sections of the site are a FREE service and is content that readers find very valuable. They live in their own section located at http://www.adorama.com/catalog.tpl?op=academy

Please explain.

First, please sign your posts with four tildes (~~~~).
My position is that the links don't add anything beyond what the article would contain if they became featured articles. Wikipedia is not a link repository. The correct way to include this information would be to incorporate it into the article and cite the website as a source, provided it meets the reliability criteria. RJASE1 Talk 02:38, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Whatever

In case you missed it on my discussion page- This is way too much trouble. I will not be contributing any more to the site. Wikipedia is losing a valuable resource because you all take yourselves way too seriously. Have a nice day.Mexicanfood 03:16, 9 March 2007 (UTC) And thank you Nardman (love that name) for backing me up.

[edit] arbitration requested

I have requested arbitration on the matter of the Solar power satellite page

Good luck with that... RJASE1 Talk 06:07, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] anythings wrong with my post

hi would like to know any things wrong with my post (http://frenchkisstips.blogspot.com) which i post it at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiss#External_links_and_references , the post is related to "kiss" which it a new world record for "kissing" , i think it is a good reference for the "kiss" topic.

thanks

Patricia —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 60.51.125.60 (talk) 05:57, 9 March 2007 (UTC).

Hi, Patricia - please read the policy on external links and get back to me if you have any questions, thanks. RJASE1 Talk 05:59, 9 March 2007 (UTC)


hmmm... sorry , i still don't understand why i am blocked for posting it even after i read the policy on external link

I'm sorry - your blog is a self-published source according to this guideline and can't be used as a source in an article. Please feel free to continue editing, but I'm afraid you can't link to your blog according to the current policy. Salamat po... RJASE1 Talk 06:09, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Checkuser

Heh. Imagine this must be a little hard on you. If it helps, I suspect this is opportunistic trolling as the fellow notices the geographical similarity and is making trouble. But better to get ye cleared properly. Adam Cuerden talk 07:20, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, no offense, but I didn't understand the logic behind the request. It's annoying to be accused of being a bad guy when you work hard at being a good guy. RJASE1 Talk 04:21, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] unflag?

can the 'flagged for deletion' tags be removed from the images Male_pubic_hair_caucsn.jpg and Phair.JPG now? They are not orphaned. Xandergr8 13:10, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I'm sure they're probably to Pubic hair again, I got sick of watchlisting that article. Unlist them if you like, but personally I think we have enough pictures of penises on Wikipedia. RJASE1 Talk 04:20, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Tambayan Philippines

Perhaps you can stop by WP:PINOY and join us in our lively and animated discussion/s in WT:PINOY. The only other non-Filipino is User:Zscout370 who has become one of our own so to speak, and is now almost an adopted son of Bohol. hehehe! Greetings from the Boholana-in-exile --Ate Pinay (talk•email) 11:24, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Paring Bol-anon AfD nomination

Hello! PAkisuyo - please be kind enough to post the same announcement you made on my talk page re the nomination of Paring Bol-anon for AfD in User talk:ChicogoN and User talk:Bolanon. Both worked equally hard for all the IHMS articles as I did when I started the article, as well as in some other articles in Portal:Bohol. I guess they will feel the axe more than I do. But certainly, they will come around. --Ate Pinay (talk•email) 11:31, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Done. RJASE1 Talk 16:24, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
Salamat ha? Please read my comment/s. I am waiting for the message to tag the article {{db-author}} . Will you be doing that or who? Please reply in my talk page please. Thanks uli! --Ate Pinay (talk•email) 00:20, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
Okey lang 'ko 'tol! hehehehe. Will do as per your advice. Just keep me in the loop. Ingatz. --Ate Pinay (talk•email) 04:34, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

BTW, I see/realize you haven't visited the Philippines with the wifey yet? --Ate Pinay (talk•email) 04:37, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

No, she has been back to visit many times, but I have not had the chance. I wanted to go when I was in Japan, but it was restricted for military for a while because of Abu Sayyaf. Plus it's hard with kids (we have 3 girls) - but the girls went to visit when we were in Japan. Maybe next year I will go... RJASE1 Talk 04:40, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
Oh, okey. I went to U.P. Lahug (B.S. Bio Batch 1987), hence Cebu is like second home to me. It is my nearest city gateway to my Republic of Bohol hehehehe! My brother's family also live there. I got lots of pictures of Cebu as well...--Ate Pinay (talk•email) 05:13, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
That's cool - my asawa is from Mabolo - we met in the States, though. RJASE1 Talk 05:16, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
Familiar place. In college, I always went to Seminario Mayor de San Carlos in Mabolo to visit friends, who are now the Paring Bol-anon hehehe. The place is now different with the new buildings and the Ayala development, Marriott Hotel, Shangri-la, etc. Hmmmm, the nostalgia of home! --Ate Pinay (talk•email) 05:20, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wicked Cow Entertainment

Thanks for restoring that hang on template I accidently deleted, that's my bad. Oh, and I noticed from your user page you are in the US Military. So, on a personal note, thank you for your sacrifices and your selflessness in serving our country, I truly appreciate it. Bmg916 Speak to Me 18:33, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your kind words - it's my pleasure to serve. This country's been good to me.RJASE1 Talk 18:44, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] ...Tripodder article deletion? Please help, thanks!

I just noticed that an article I had placed about Tripodder has been deleted. Tripodder is a podcast/videocast that many journalists, radio personalities, musicians, and producers contribute to. It is a free service which is not a profit seeking entity. There were several articles that linked to the article on Tripodder.

There are many articles about other podcasts that exist online including "Ask a Ninja," The Dawn and Drew Show"...what exactly was wrong with the article?

Looking forward to hearing from you! I'd be grateful if you could e-mail me at stomfischer@gmail.com , as I will respond quicker there.

Thank you for your kind help,

Tom

A tag has been placed on Tripodder, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done because it is an article about a certain website, blog, forum, or other web content that does not assert the importance or significance of that web location. Please read our criteria for speedy deletion, particularly item 7 under Articles, as well as notability guidelines for websites. Please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources which verify their content.

Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself. To contest the tagging and request that administrators wait a while for you to add contextual material, please affix the template {{hangon}} to the page, and put a note on Talk:Tripodder. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. RJASE1 Talk 18:42, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

The page was deleted because it didn't meet the notability criteria for web content - you can read up on those guideline here. RJASE1 Talk 03:58, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sony Protection Group

I have edited the entry for the sony protection group and will add more information as I can. I am just learning how the wikipedia entry system works. If it is still in violation please let me know. thanks, Eric Elortt 20:32, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Al of a sudden the page was deleted and no reason was left, could you please inform me of what happenedElortt 22:17, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

If I recall correctly, the page was speedily deleted because it didn't meet the notability criteria for web content - the criteria can be found here. RJASE1 Talk 03:55, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] User:Baymane

Hi. Can you please report this user at WP:SSP instead of AIV. The edits did not obviously tie back to edits of the the other account, so a fuller report at SSP looks appropriate. Cheers TigerShark 20:49, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

No problem - yeah the edits were identical to those of another sock - should have mentioned that one. Taking it to WP:RFCU. RJASE1 Talk 20:58, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wantage USA

Hey, despite some major copyediting/wikifying, I disagree about the lack of notability for Wantage USA. but I don't see an Articles for Deletion entry where I can argue it. Murderbike 21:54, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

No prob - I took your statement to mean you were contesting the proposed deletion - it's now under AfD here. RJASE1 Talk 03:54, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wicked Cow Entertainment...again

I've tried helping the guy out by point him to WP:COMPANY but quite honestly, I don't even think this company is notable enough to warrant an article. Should we slap another speedy delete on it? Bmg916 Speak to Me 23:11, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads-up - I nominated the article for deletion here. RJASE1 Talk 03:47, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
Already, gave a Strong Delete vote. Honestly, I think it's so not notable we'll be the only two voting. Bmg916 Speak to Me
You forgot to sign your vote. :) RJASE1 Talk 03:51, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
Naw I didn't...;) Bmg916 Speak to Me 03:56, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 13th World Jamboree

Define what makes it extraneous or spam. I didn't put the link on, but I do watch the article. Your welcome is unnecessary, I've been here two years. Chris 05:08, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

It was a standard template - no offense. I deleted the link because it didn't meet the external link guidelines - the description even said it was an unofficial site. RJASE1 Talk 05:10, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
Point me to the "external link guidelines"-this site does not advertise anything, it is the recollections of an attendee. Chris 05:15, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
The criteria I'm thinking of are here, numbers 1 and 3. RJASE1 Talk 05:50, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
Reading that site, as I assume you have done, I find it does provide a unique resource beyond what the article would contain if it became a Featured article (point 1), a personal view that is not encyclopedic in itself, but a worthwhile read for someone wanting to dig deeper; and is _not_ mainly intended to promote a website (point 3), it just says "here's another view if you're interested." I am replacing the link as both guidelines are satisfied, and copying this dialogue to the article's talkpage to explain why I am doing so. Chris 06:13, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
That's fine, you've convinced me you're not linkspamming or promoting the site. RJASE1 Talk 06:38, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] NotSpam

You should have read the talk page before you accused me of not discussing the addition of the relevant NON-SPAM links. Please pay more attention next time, thank you. --ProtectWomen 06:15, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Whoops, my apologies. RJASE1 Talk 06:19, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
You're forgiven!! No hard feelings, but you have a point in that the links section to that article needs cleaning up and re-organizing. Thanks for keeping an eye on this highly emotionally charged topic ! --ProtectWomen 06:23, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] the mrbrown show

Okay. Well, you've suggested that the article be speedily deleted. However, themrbrownshow is a lot more than a mere website. It is one of the few avenues that freedom of spech is exercised in singapore, and has evn been cited by the Prime Minister in one of his speeches. There has been controversy aplenty surrounding the show, and the article has already been there for months. Furthermore, the tag is not there anymore! Please consider these factors. Jedd the Jedi 07:28, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

The speedy was apparently declined - I'm not that worried about it, but you may want to get some sources to establish notability per WP:WEB, or the article may get nominated for deletion again. RJASE1 Talk 17:49, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hammered coin link

Greetings,

The link I left on the hammered coinage page was to a site that shows a collection of hammered coins. The site is non commercial and is intended to provide a service to people who are interested in the subject. The site has even won a Forum award for numismatic excellence. I do not understand if there is a page about hammered coinage why you would not want a link to a site that shows just that. Did you even look at the site?

Cheers;

TimothyHmscook (talk —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Hmscook (talk • contribs) 16:15, 11 March 2007 (UTC).

Hey, Timothy - the problem was that you were adding the link to multiple sites, thereby making it appear that you were a spammer. Please read this section of WP:SPAM and let me know if you have any questions, thanks. RJASE1 Talk 17:51, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Greetings,

I added it to two sites, one on English coins and one on hammered coins, not the several dozen mentioned in the how not to be a spammer section. Are you saying that a site can only be linked once in Wikipedia even if it is relevant to more than one article?

Cheers;

TimothyHmscook

Actually, you added it to 3 - Coins of the pound sterling, Groat, and Hammered coinage. That said, I would recommend reading the external link guidelines, external links should be avoided except under very specific circumstances - this helps us keep Wikipedia from being overrun by spam. I believe you that you're not a spammer - I think you may, while acting under good faith, have accidentally set off the spam radar. The best way to include this website as a resource would be to add the information to the article and then cite the website as a source. Let me know if you have any questions about this. RJASE1 Talk 18:34, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Whidbey Island Page

You sent me a message, about adding a website to the Whidbey Island Pages. The website has a lot of historical pertinent information and mass photos that can't be copied over. Also, the tour itself, which the webpage promotes is not an AD... there aren't alot of websites that talk about Deception Pass or the history of Whidbey Island, and I'm not sure why we got blocked. Not cool. Please respond.

It was removed because this website is a blatant advertisement - please read the guidelines on external links and on spam. I've also removed these links from the other articles in which they appear. Also, please don't forget to sign your talk page posts with four tildes (~~~~). RJASE1 Talk 01:36, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

I really totally disagree with you, and am wondering what right you have to call it spam! It's not even some mass commercial activity... and you took out a bunch of information that Navy Wives use to look up when they move to the area! According to the policy, external links are fine if they pertain to the subject, which this website is all about Whidbey Island and Deception Pass history!!!

Are you trying to tell me that website is not an ad? Please read the guidelines, as I said. If the website can be classified as reliable source, which I'm not going to judge at this point, the way to include the information would be to incorporate it into the article and cite the website as a source. May I please ask if you are associated with this website in any way?
Also, as I already requested earlier, please sign your talk page posts. RJASE1 Talk 01:52, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, I don't even know how to reply proFirst of all, I'm not such a fancy shmansy typer and I don't even know what you mean by Signing with four tilnes...? But, I think the photos on the website of the bridge, old tickets from the Ferry, photos of the pass itself, video of the whirlpools is very much information that should be available on the wiki. However, It's too difficult to upload it, and I don't even have the rights to it. There aren't any other sites with that stuff on it, and it pertains to every page that I put the link on. Sorry for saying there was a narrated boat tour with the historical information included in my additions about tourism related activities. There are a ton of pages on here with special hints and tips on cool things to see in an area... and I don't see the problem with linking them.

I live here and take it personally that some outsider- you- are going to delete it! YOU DON'T even live here or care about the place! You just like deleting stuff!!! That's all that's posted on your website! perly I guess... here is my response:

[edit] IceRadio - Request for removal

Hi,

Sorry for the delay in getting back to you, I have been very busy.

I understand fully your concerns with the article Ice Radio and have not objected to its removal. I apologise for any inconvience caused.

Best Regards, Kevin. Sully 01:37, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Hey, no problem. Have a good one... RJASE1 Talk 01:40, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Also what does four tildes mean?!

The top left part of the keyboard - like this (~~~~). RJASE1 Talk 01:55, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Website Ad

First of all, I'm not such a fancy shmansy typer and I don't even know what you mean by Signing with four tilnes...? But, I think the photos on the website of the bridge, old tickets from the Ferry, photos of the pass itself, video of the whirlpools is very much information that should be available on the wiki. However, It's too difficult to upload it, and I don't even have the rights to it. There aren't any other sites with that stuff on it, and it pertains to every page that I put the link on. Sorry for saying there was a narrated boat tour with the historical information included in my additions about tourism related activities. There are a ton of pages on here with special hints and tips on cool things to see in an area... and I don't see the problem with linking them.

I live here and take it personally that some outsider- you- are going to delete it! YOU DON'T even live here or care about the place! You just like deleting stuff!!! That's all that's posted on your website! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.170.69.55 (talk) 02:01, 12 March 2007 (UTC).

If you don't have the rights to it then we definitly cannot link to your site as per WP:COPYVIO. Please read that, and understand why we cannot accept your website. Thanks! —— Eagle101 Need help? 02:05, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

What do you mean? I thought if you don't have the copyright of someone else's website, you can link to it as an external source instead of uploading on the wiki?! Why does this have to be so hard! And, why are you joining the conversation?!

Also it appears that you have a conflict of interest, please stop adding this link and read our guidelines on external links. In addition please read what we consider spam to be. Thanks. —— Eagle101 Need help? 02:14, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Why you should not have been so mean and deleted a whole section of pertinent information- You're not a very good editor, and you really turned off a new wiki user!

"Try to avoid deleting things as a matter of principle. When you amend and edit, it is remarkable how you might see something useful in what was said. Most people have something useful to say. That includes you. Deletion upsets people and makes them feel they have wasted their time: consider moving their text to a sub-directory of their user pages instead (e.g. saying not quite the right place for it but so they can still use it): much less provocative."

I'm sorry, but blatant advertising is not allowed even on userpages in Wikipedia. I had no intention of turning off a new Wiki user; I just do my best to enforce the policies, of which you've been informed above. RJASE1 Talk 03:10, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Overseas Chinese Youth Language Training and Study Tour to the Republic of China

With all respect I can understand your reasons for singling out the above website. Those people who contributed to it including myself belong to a community of over 30 000 asians around the world who have attended the Program and add our recollections to the archive.

Official documentation on the Study Tour is sparse due to the nature of Program you can imagine that few books or pieces of academia are dedicated to it. The analogy I make is like a summer camp you may/may not have went to as a child. It may have ran for over 20 years but you would be hard pressed to find books or documentation on it.

That being said I have added appropriate references from reputable sources such as the Toronto Star and Taiwan National Journal. These should be more than enough among other articles to substantiate facts in the article. Not being web savvy myself, I currently do not have the knack to tack on these references within the article. However, they will be done in time by other contributors who know how to use the system better than I.

These references validate most of the facts in the wikipedia article. For others without them, "citation needed" tags will have to be added in the future.

As for the friendster external links they are by no means meant to promote the friendster website at all. Rather, they are representations of the different years that have attended the trip over time and a testament to the large alumni of overseas asians that have attended the trip internationally. Further, the testimonials of some of these sites validate the important cultural significance that the Study Tour had on their lives as stated in the wikipedia article. Since the article pertains to alumni of this trip over a 40 year period, some of us believe that sites dedicated to these alumni have some salient significance. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Studydoc (talk • contribs) 09:31, 12 March 2007 (UTC).

Hi - I appreciate your articulate argument - now that the article is up for deletion, you should probably make your argument on the discussion page for the AfD, since I do not control whether or not the article will be retained. So far as the links, I believe you that they're not spam - they may fall under the guideline of self-published sources, but that's something that should be decided on the article's talk page. Cheers - RJASE1 Talk 17:15, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the note. The article is now attributed with 2 reliable sources in English sitting in the references section and 2 in Chinese sources which sit in the external links section. The rest of the links are relevant in that they re-iterate to some degree what was stated in the more reliable sources. Thus far there are 4 keep votes and one delete so I do not know what fate this holds for the article. However, corrections have been made to comply with wikipedia's policy on reliable sources.

Looks like the article has a pretty good chance of survival - I guess the good thing about the AfD process is that it sometimes spurs needed improvements to an article - thanks for your work on this, hope it wasn't too much trouble. RJASE1 Talk 19:27, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

What I do hope is that there is a permanent record of the consideration for deletion in the archives so that people in the future with similar concerns can make better informed decisions as to vote for or against when they read the comments. Although there is some improvement, it is difficult for someone like myself who is not web savvy to make the proper programming connections when citing sources. As you can see, currently when you click on the hypertext footnotes, nothing happens. However they are there just so one can refer to the articles/relevant sources numerically. Perhaps somebody with better programming skills can clean up the article better in the future. I think this is my limit.

[edit] AIV reports on usernames

Hi RJASSE1. First let me say that I appreciate your watching the username log for offensive usernames. That said, typical practise isn't to block those usernames that don't have any edits, particularly in borderline cases. There's usually not much point, as the only way anyone will be offended by them is by trawling the logs, and it's simply not worth the effort. I don't mean to say you shouldn't report accounts that are actively editing, or "Jimbo Wales is a big fag", for example, but otherwise is just more effort than it's worth. Thanks.--Chaser - T 20:55, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

OK, thanks for the advice. RJASE1 Talk 21:03, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
By the way, RFCs on usernames waste a lot more time than reporting them to AIV. If they haven't edited, it's pointless to report them. Of course, reporting them is not prohibited by policy, and WP is a volunteer project, so people are free to discuss anything to their hearts' content, but many sysops agree that it's a waste of our time if they aren't editing.--Chaser - T 21:34, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
I appreciate your guidance; I'm just trying a tactic to catch spammers before they spread their crap all over Wikipedia and we have to clean it up. If someone has an obvious product-promoting username, I don't see the point in waiting for them to spam. No good-faith editor creates a username like, for example, User:Environmental protective coatings. If I wasted your time in any way, I apologize. RJASE1 Talk 12:06, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Timothy Rasmussen

Can you explain why you deleted this article? I would think that the first place winner of a major television show is more than notable enough for an encyclopedia aiming to provide the complete sum of human knowledge. Burntsauce 23:57, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

RJASE1 is not an administrator, see the deletion log. All RJASE1 did was tag that article as a CSD A7.If you wish to contest this deletion by DaGizza, then feel free to either ask him on his talk page or take the matter to our deletion review. Regards, —— Eagle101 Need help? 02:10, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Lost And Found

May I ask why you have nominated this article for deletion when many Wikipedians went through this when the article was first being established and it ended up as a "keep" and now has many contributions and editors? If you do not believe that this happened before, here is the page that you need to see [[2]] —The preceding unsigned comment was added by KagomeShuko (talk • contribs) 20:24, 13 March 2007 (UTC).

There was no note on the talk page saying it had been AfD'd before, and the name had changed. RJASE1 Talk 20:29, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion of 8½ Souvenirs for non-notability

Hello, you proposed that 8½ Souvenirs article be deleted for non-notability. I did not have time to respond before the deletion was carried out. While I agree that 8½ Souvenirs is not a "famous" band, they do seem to fit within the guidelines for notability by a band. Specifically they "have been the subject of a half hour or longer broadcast on a national radio or TV network." Namely the nationally broadcast Austin City Limits show featured them in Episode #69 broadcast on April 4th, 1998 and the segment was approximately a half hour.

Is there any way to recover the old text of the article? Perhaps it's archived somewhere? - Planders 21:49, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

It may be in the Google cache... RJASE1 Talk 21:51, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
I can recreate it for you under User:Planders/8½ Souvenirs, if you want. Veinor (talk to me) 21:53, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
I recreated the article and added the new reference. I also found an existing page (Swing Revival) that linked to "8 1/2 Souvenirs" so I updated that link too. - Planders 22:26, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] removing of external link

Hi Tim,

Can you brief on the guidelines of external links, All of my external links are removed from en.wikipedia.org, I have give the appropiate link which relate to the subject. the link whihc is removed is " Removing external link: *.gurudwarasrishergahsahib.org " Please do tell me how to edit external link so that it will never been washed out.

Please make an CC to ccs.rentacoder@gmail.com

thanks rajan —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 122.162.206.200 (talk) 11:24, 14 March 2007 (UTC).

I'm sorry - what you're asking (editing links so they can never be removed) isn't really possible. Please read the external link policy and the spam policy. If you feel the link should be on a page per these guidelines, please leave a note on the article's talk page. The reason the links were removed was because someone was spamming links to this site across muliple articles, which isn't allowed per WP:SPAM. RJASE1 Talk 03:40, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] E-mail

Hey just letting you know I sent you an email! Majorly (o rly?) 18:24, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Replied, thanks! RJASE1 Talk 03:40, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Username you reported to AIV

Hi there. Re: Jbutt 1 (talk • contribs). Just so you know, Butt is a common Pakistani surname/tribal name. Unless this one starts to vandalize, its probably a good idea to assume good faith. Flyguy649talkcontribs 04:07, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Then again, I looked at the user's first edit. You're probably right here. Flyguy649talkcontribs 04:08, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
Crossed edits - heh. Thanks! RJASE1 Talk 04:10, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
No problem!! There was another case like this last week where it was likely innocent. Carry on! Regards, Flyguy649talkcontribs 04:12, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] excelexchange.com

Hi,

You removed a link from Birthday paradox, implying that WP:EL mandates the removal of all links to excelexchange.com. It's not obvious to me that this is the case.

I just wanted to let you know that an anonymous editor has since re-added the same link. If you again remove the link, please explain why this time.

—RuakhTALK 19:17, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

I don't remember that specific site but I'm sure I must have removed it when cleaning up after a spammer - almost all of my edits this week have been with new username patrolling or with WP:WPSPAM. Normally, per WP:EL and WP:SPAM, undiscussed external links can be cleaned out; I didn't see anything on the talk page for this particular one. If the consensus on the article is to keep it, I wouldn't complain, but there should probably be a note on the talk page so someone else doesn't remove it while housecleaning. RJASE1 Talk 03:40, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for your reply. As far I'm aware there's no consensus one way or the other, it's just that neither you nor any of the anonymous editors adding the link has made any attempt (so far as I can tell) to justify its inclusion or exclusion, and if the link is spam, it isn't obviously such, so … —RuakhTALK 19:47, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
Common practice (so far as I understand it, per this suggested guideline) seems to be that the burden is on the link includer to explain why the link is necessary to the article...correct me if you see it another way. Of course I believe this only applies to borderline cases, not to obvious good links like the official site of an article's subject. RJASE1 Talk 23:47, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the info. You might want follow those tips you linked to for what to put in the edit summary and whatnot, so people have a better idea what your edits are about. —RuakhTALK 07:09, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Scientific Skepticism external link

I saw that you removed an external link to SkepDic.com from the Scientific Skepticism article, citing the page about external links. What in particular is wrong with that link? Bubba73 (talk), 05:07, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Doing external link cleanup per WP:SPAM and WP:EL - I didn't see anything on the talk page indicating the link had been discussed. RJASE1 Talk 05:10, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
Fast reply! Does an external link have to be discussed on the talk page? It is a wonderful source of information about the subject of the article, and most of the book Skeptic's Dictionary is online there.Bubba73 (talk), 05:11, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
My concern with this link is that every page on this site I looked at contained an advertisement to buy the author's book from amazon - it there any way the website or book can be cited as a source without including the bare links to the author's website?
I came across this site because one particular user (I think User:Alienlifeformz) was spamming links to this site on a large scale across multiple articles; this set off the "spam alert and got me started looking at it. RJASE1 Talk 23:50, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
As far as I can tell, every page on the website does have where you can order the book. I don't know of a way to link to the text of the book other than that way, though. That user was putting in a lot of links to the website, but I don't know if it was spam, because each one seemed to link to the relevant article at the website. Bubba73 (talk), 01:42, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
I think it would be appropriate to do inline citations to the website if you were including or quoting material from there. Adding links in multiple articles to the same website (especially if you're making few other edits) is generally considered spamming. RJASE1 Talk
I think that I was the editor that added the link to Scientific skepticism many months ago, but I'm not sure. I don't remember adding it anywhere else, but I might have done a couple more. I've made over 10,000 edits so far. I have no connection to the book/website and I don't believe that AlienLifeFormz does either. The website has a large number of articles on various topics of scientific skepticism, so I thought it would be good to put the link there so people could read the complete information on the topic for free. All of the articles in in the book are on the website. The link from the scientific skepticism article isn't for any particular article there, but rather for all of the articles of scientific skepticism. AlienLifeFormz was adding them to the individual topics, and that would be more appropriate for inline citations, I think. I do not believe that AlienLifeFormz was spamming in the usual sense. I hink he was adding a lot of appropriate references. Just to explain my thoughts on it. Bubba73 (talk), 02:08, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
Sorry - I'm not accusing you of spamming, just saying that User:Alienlifeformz was following a discouraged practice (and he stopped after being receiving a note about it, so I definitely believe it was an honest mistake). RJASE1 Talk 02:12, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
I understand. I can certainly see how his additions could look like spam, but I do not believe that it was for any promotional or commercial purpose. I've seen a few of his edits in the past and I believe that he is a good editor. Bubba73 (talk), 02:24, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] I Shook Up The Pedia

I bumped this to WP:RFCN as I don't see a problem with it. Nardman1 19:15, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

please dont delete any further links for psypix.org ! Check our Site and you will see why ! We do also mix-tapes.de

[edit] reports

There is no reason to report those usernames, please stop. There are privacy issues and spamming it around the wiki is unhelpful. pschemp | talk 03:05, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

No, I saw that after I reported the first one - that's why I didn't report anymore. RJASE1 Talk 03:14, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] BlogTalkRadio

Hi,

I am from BlogTalkRadio and I noticed you deleted our Wiki due to an article that was added that was written about us in a 3rd party publication and added to the wiki. Can you explain your reason and reference the article you oppose.

Thank you Amy —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.177.177.165 (talk) 16:42, 17 March 2007 (UTC).

What was the name of the article? I can't find the deletion log without the exact name...in any case, I didn't delete it, I'm not an administrator, all I can do is nominate an article to be considered for deletion by an admin or by the community.
If it was a web content article, it was possibly deleted for not meeting the web content notability criteria - you may want to take a look at those. Also, if you are from the site in question, editing Wikipedia articles regarding that site is a conflict of interest. RJASE1 Talk 17:12, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] RFCN

Please read WP:U. Before submitting a username to WP:RFCN, ask the user nicely first whether they would voluntarily change their name. I have removed a number of your listings because you have failed to do so. There is even a template for this, {{UsernameConcern}}. Neil (not Proto ►) 17:34, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice. RJASE1 Talk 17:36, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm starting to find some of your "inappropriate" username reporting to WP:AIV to be disruptive. For example, you link User:BlueMoonCandles to the "Blue Moon Candle Company" and claim the account is promotional despite the fact that user has made ZERO edits to reflect the accusation you have made. Sometimes it's just inspiration, but unless it's an registered TRADEMARK don't send it to WP:AIV, send it to WP:RFCN. WP:AIV is like 911 -- when immediate intervention is required such as when a username actually conveys an intent to spam (e.g. the username ends in .com, Inc, Company) or has already done so. --  Netsnipe  ►  17:40, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

FYI: BlueMoonCandles was just blocked indef by Llama_man anyway. But please, I urge you to Wikipedia:Assume good faith. --  Netsnipe  ►  17:45, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
I understand your concern - but are you thinking my reports are in bad faith? RJASE1 Talk 17:55, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
No. I think you're being over eager and want to pass WP:RFA as soon as possible. = P --  Netsnipe  ►  17:51, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
Then your thinking would be wrong, with all due respect. RJASE1 Talk 17:55, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
Please accept my humble apologies then. --  Netsnipe  ►  18:02, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Not so bad (I hear ...)

I was about to come over and say thanks. The copy-n-paste-n-dup-n-copy-n-paste-n-dup-... edit locked up my browser for a while. So ... I got something to eat. ;-) Thanks for watching out. Shenme 05:51, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm finding it really does depend on the time-of-day, who's available - personal preference if you will. The first couple'a times I saw a 31 hour block I was confused, then realized that's supposed to mean "not this same time tomorrow, bub!" Someday I'll know more... Thanks again. Shenme 05:55, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
Regarding User:Shifty Shell Shock Guy - see Wikipedia:Long term abuse/MascotGuy. The more I find here, the more I'm amazed. Creates users, who create users, some do questionable edits, and later 'may' mark them as sock-puppets himself? I've gotten so bad, I stop editing and just watch the madness ... Shenme 06:13, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Iron Man

OK. WikiNew 16:45, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Spamstar of Glory

The Spamstar of Glory
To RJASE1 for diligence in the tireless battle against Spam on Wikipedia. --Hu12 23:36, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Many thanks for your tireless efforts in keeping article clear of spam and other nonsense. Wikipedia is a better quality project because of hardworking and conscientious editors like you!--Hu12 23:36, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Wow, thanks! RJASE1 Talk 23:36, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Clarification: Football Card Gallery

Sergeant, I've reviewed the Wikipedia external link guidlines and am not sure how they apply to [http://www.footballcardgallery.com footballcardgallery.com]. Perhaps I overlooked something, but I'm not sure I understand your rationale. Thanks for your service, btw. —xanderer 23:55, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Hey, no problem - no thanks necessary. On the website, I had cleaned out undiscussed links to it because a couple of users were spamming links to that site, and I felt it contained an objectionable amount of advertising. If it's necessary to include a link to that site, I would place a note on the article's talk page so it doesn't routinely cleaned out again. Cheers - RJASE1 Talk 00:00, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] user name

Hey man, my user name is from a movie. its from american pie 3, its congratulations jim, but rearranged. its no big deal. its not gross or anything. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by CongratulationJism (talk • contribs) 00:03, 19 March 2007 (UTC).

The problem is that Jism is slang for semen. Wikipedia policy forbids Usernames that refer to or allude to reproductive or excretory functions of the body. I'm really hoping you can select another name, thanks. RJASE1 Talk 00:07, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
I've made a second request for changing his username, which helps meet the prereqs for a change. I don't think it's bad enough for an immediate block.Rlevse 00:10, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] User:CongratulationJism

Will you take this to WP:RFCN? From the comments on WP:AIV, it seams its not clear cut, but I definately think its worth a discussion Ryanpostlethwaite contribs/talk 00:14, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Already working it, thanks! RJASE1 Talk 00:15, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] just a sharing

Heya, kumusta? FYI lang, pls read this --Ate Pinay (talk•email) 06:11, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Hi Timyong, maybe you can comment and help me out, the Boholana in exile is feeling harrassed by a fellow filipino wikipedian. LoL --Ate Pinay (talk•email) 06:53, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
Pls check email. Thanks.--Ate Pinay (talk•email) 08:55, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] External link to Soda Can Stove page...

Hi,

I inadvertantly violated some rule with my post of an external link to the homemade soda can stove page. Can I add the following link?

http://home.alltel.net/rjprince/FireLightStove.html

This is a free access to a design that is my own. I want to make it available to anyone who would like to make one or two of these stoves. I am also beginning to market a polished can version at www.firelightstove.com. There is no reference to this site, or any commercial site on the above link. Does this meet the rules?

Please let me know. Thanks!

Ray

from user rjprince, rjprince-at-alltel.net

I'm sorry, but Wikipedia is not a publisher of original thought, nor should it be used for advertising or promotion. I'm not an administrator, but I'm pretty certain that this isn't the right forum for this type of material per Wikipedia's guidelines - I recommend another blog or web-hosting service. RJASE1 Talk 04:01, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Hi Tim,

If you will notice in the same "Beverage Can Stove" article, there is a link to Tinman's site, which is commercial. If you will notice the link to Pritchard's stove, it is on what may be considered a "personal page" (home.chattanoonga.net/...). If you will look at Garlington's page, it provides instruction of how to make a stove using his design. PLEASE LOOK AT MY PAGE AND NOTICE THAT NOT ONLY IS THERE NO ATTEMPT TO ADVERTISE, BUT I HAVE ALSO REMOVED ALL REFERENCES THAT WOULD EVEN INDICATE THAT I PLAN TO MAKE SMALL QUANTITIES OF THE STOVE COMMERCIALLY AVAILABLE. The main difference between my stove and the Garlington YACC stove, is that mine WORKS WELL. As the Wikipedia article tracks the development of home-made soda can stoves, my design does not fit into any of the listed categories of stoves, "Standard, Inverted, Side burner, pressurized or insulated..." This would seem to make my take on an old idea somewhat significant. Please explain to me why my contribution to this article either violates the rules, or fails to be a significant non-self serving addition to the article.

This link is not advertising or promotion! FOLLOW IT AND CHECK! http://home.alltel.net/rjprince/FireLightStove.html

Thanks, Ray Prince -- rjprince-at-alltel.net

I think I replied the wrong way. See on your talk page. Maybe above this?

I did take a look at the site, and, as I said, it appears to be original research that is not appropriate for Wikipedia. Also, since you are the inventor of this product, for you to write about it is a conflict of interest. Has the product been written about or reviewed in any reliable sources? RJASE1 Talk 13:55, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Written about or reviewed? Nope, not yet. And, the link to Tinman is not a conflict of interest? And Garlington is the inventor of his YACC stove, but it is OK? Not really trying to be difficult, just seems a bit inconsistent.

I've removed the other links as well - sorry, should have done that before. RJASE1 Talk 14:24, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Link addition to goaltender topic

Hello RJASE,

I'm sorry if you feel that my link addition was spam in nature. On the contrary, I believe that for the topic of ice hockey goaltender this site is highly relevant as it is considered a major authority site.

Why don't you visit the site and see for yourself? You could compare it to the other external links too, like this one http://www.goalieforum.com/ It is a forum with fewer than 350 members. The site I was adding has over 6000 members and so I argue that if the topic is to include a link to a community forum, it might as well be the most popular.

You might want to view the last link too.

http://wwwmitchkorn.com/

It's missing a '.' after the www and is highly suspect. This guy offers a goalie school for profit and his site ads little value to the topic of goaltender.

Anyway, thanks for the opportunity to make my case. I love Wikipedia and I just wanted to share something I found.

All the best Tom

No problem, Tom - actually you were right about those other links, they need to go also. RJASE1 Talk 21:03, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Removed from sex toy listing.

Hi,

You removed my site from the sex toy listing? I do not understand why as my site I listed linked directly to the information pages and since you include a nofollow tag on all external links I am not getting any search engine rankings from it. I was trying to provide more information and you removed the link. Please advise me on why this was done?

PS: You didn't even look at my site as there were no hits from you in the logs so please do not delete items without even looking at them.

Thanks, Jamie

Please read the policy on external links. If your website qualified as a reliable source, it can be cited but Wikipedia policy discourages addition of links to commercial sites. RJASE1 Talk 23:00, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Well considering that sex toys are my business and my site has been around for over 3 years I would assume the information on my sex toy guides would be accurate wouldn't you? But of course you didn't look at the site so you wouldn't know this. You keep pointing to your external link guide but since you didn't look at my site how do you know that it doesn't follow the rules? The only reason I am getting a hard time over this is because I sell adult toys and I find that really annoying and as usual an unfair practice just because of the business I am in.

If this is your site, then posting links to it is a conflict of interest. RJASE1 Talk 23:20, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
Oh, and I would interpret the policy in the exact same way even if your site was selling Bibles. RJASE1 Talk 23:21, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

So now its a conflict of interest now, see you will just keep changing your point of view to suit your needs. What happens if the site was submitted by someone else then you would find another reason to block it. As usual a load of garbage by site mod who have limited views on things.

It's a commercial site, plain and simple, so unless you have a very good reason, the external link policy forbids it. I took a look at your site, and the first thing I saw was a list of products. Veinor (talk to me) 03:35, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WP:AIV

Unless usernames are outright offensive, or vandalistic in their names alone, please list them on WP:RFCN instead of WP:AIV. Thank you, — xaosflux Talk 03:27, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Which one are you referring to? RJASE1 Talk 03:30, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
Oh, I see now - "chink" is usually blocked on sight, and I interpreted "big balla" as a sexual reference. RJASE1 Talk 03:33, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
(edit conflict) User:Big balla 21. (Note, I sent that same message above to multiple people, was kinda generic). To prevent backlogs at WP:AIV we try to keep it limited to people that really need to be blocked right now due to active harm. Non-editing potential username violations should still be evaluated and dealt with, but that is what WP:RFCN is for. — xaosflux Talk 03:38, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
Argh - over at WP:RFCN they normally say the opposite, and that clear violations should be referred to WP:AIV. From their instructions - Grossly, blatantly, or obviously inappropriate usernames should be reported at WP:AIV instead. RJASE1 Talk 03:40, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
Ah the drama :) We just had almost the reverse of this disucssion at Wikipedia_talk:Administrator_intervention_against_vandalism#Usernames_at_AIV! Before WP:AIV vandal reports would often get lost in admin noticeboards, AIV is a streamlined system for dealing with obvious vandalism. If a username is vandalism in itself (e.g. User:WikiPediaIsAlwaysWrong) AIV is good, same with blatantly offensive names (e.g. User:All%ETHNICITY%shouldDIE). But for anything that is marginal, the other options (askign the user to change their name, listing on WP:RFCN) have always seemed more appropriate to me. — xaosflux Talk 03:45, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
Sounds like policy hasn't been perfectly worked out yet...I appreciate the heads-up and will make sure just the worst are reported to WP:AIV. Cheers... RJASE1 Talk 03:47, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
Thanks, keep up the good work, we're all on the same side here! — xaosflux Talk 03:48, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
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