Talk:Rivers-Manning Trade

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Neutrality

I think this article is not neutral at all, and lacks any sources, and needs to be fixed up. Eisen8388 23:05, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Frankly, I think parts of it were better before your edits. For instance, 85.9% is not "slightly" higher than 79.6% as a field goal kicker (in grades, a solid B versus a C+), and the swirling winds are hardly relevant because Feely's accuracy was worse, not better, when he played in Atlanta's Georgia Dome. I propose we put the percentages in the article, remove the bit about Giants stadium (since it actually seems to have worked in his favor), and let the reader decide.

There were some weasel words that needed to be fixed (in the form of "most experts would agree...") but the article was still more factual then than it is now. This is not the article about Eli Manning; this is an article about the trade. We ought to be comparing the athletes acquired therein, not stating for what Eli is most notable while discrediting Rivers as a beneficiary of Tomlinson's success. If you as a Giants fan want to argue about why one of them is succeeding while the other is failing, or speculate about what might come to pass in the future, you are welcome to do so on the Chargers or Giants forum. This page is for giving information about the trade as it has occurred to date. Kryptx 21:54, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Unprecedented decision

From the article; "Manning, along with members of his family insisted that their unprecedented decision to refuse to play in San Diego", what about Bo Jackson? Didn't he do the same thing to Tampa Bay in '86, just without announcing it ahead of time?«»bd(^talk _stalk) 17:59, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Agreed. I read the story used as a citation, and edited the text to more accurately reflect what was reported there - removing the word "unprecedented" and clarifying the family vs. Eli decision. Good catch! -Pete 19:27, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Slight digression but Elway was the first I know about - drafted by the Colts & forced them to trade him to Denver. Bo Jackson refused to sign & chose baseball & I'm not sure Tampa got any compensation - the Raiders just re-drafted him. The real difference with Manning is that he didn't have baseball to fall back on like Jackson & Elway so had the Chargers been unable to trade him away he literally would have had to sit out the whole year before re-entering the draft. A decision that would have cost him his first year's salary plus quite possibly the #1 overall pick status (and money) - mind you given the state of the 2004 draft he probably would have still gone #1 to San Francisco - if he'd agreed to play for them...

Anyway, if I do have a point it's that the Elway case has more & better parallels than Bo Jackson Megamanic 05:45, 7 February 2007 (UTC)