Talk:Richard Whelan
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[edit] Suspect 'See Also' Section
Further to the below, I am concerned at the 'See Also' section placed here and on a dozen other pages by user Tottenhamlad which links a number of articles mostly about violent crimes where the victim was white and the criminal was not, and in particular crimes which the BNP saw fit to comment on.
Though I see how these articles are related, the extent of the list, its restriction mainly to articles about white victims and its emphasis on articles with BNP statements leaves it open to accusations of bad faith; specifically, that it is deliberately making implicit editorial comment on the issue. Not very NPOV. I would welcome comments from other users, or from Tottenhamlad himself. Dr Swiftus 10:44, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
- I think if you look carefully you'll notice that three of the victims (Roland Adams, Stephen Lawrence, Anthony Walker) were black and, two of which at least, were murdered by 'whites'. If there are more white victims this may be because of the fact that blacks murder 'whites' at a ratio of something like 1:2.3 in the UK (using Home Office official murder figures).
- Tottenhamlad 22:33, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Racism
This page seems to have been created purely to create racial tension. It takes cries in which the vic and perp were of different races and then tries to link them and make the hate crimes.--IanDavies 13:59, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
- I'm inclined to agree. Also, recent edits have had a racist tone that bothers me. So I've rewritten the article to remove the tone and present the facts as they are known. However, I've also marked the article again as NPOV as I admit to not fully researching it and the tag should attract the attention of someone who will and may therefore improve the article in a continued Neutral Point of View. Redvers ★ Hello ★ Doings 11:59, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
- This was part of a series of articles apparently designed to "counter" the existence of an article on Anthony Walker. However this one seems more borderline; for one thing, unlike the others I'd actually heard of this case. AFAIR part of the story was that with various other people around, nobody saw anything. Rd232 talk 09:06, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
This article is pretty terrible by any standard, if its says in the very first line the victim was white, I feel it only fair to say the murderer was black.--Stevenscollege 22:36, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
- Iv also followed the link numbered one and it leads us nowhere, iv also read the newswatch article on the bbc and was taken by the fact the writer more or less states the BBC is not interested in fully reporting black or middle eastern racist crime but at least whites get better treatment than asians, who can look forward to no reporting what so ever.--Stevenscollege 22:48, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
Please note: Richard Whelan was not the victim of a race crime. He was the victim of a babaric crime which has not been linked to race.
[edit] BBC views
However, the BBC noted that Walker's killing was racially-motivated and thus a national story whilst Whelan's was not and thus remained a local story.
Whether or not this a true reflection of the BBC's position, it requires further explanation. It isn't obvious why a killing with a "racial" motive is a "national story" whereas a killing with some other motive (or none at all) is a "local story". The victims would appear to me to be equally dead in both cases. 217.155.20.163 00:55, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
