Image talk:Rhsteinunnicelandmiss.jpg
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[edit] Fair use dispute
It's very hard to find an unfree image of the subject. It's not like the subject is an international star who has had tens of thousands of photos taken of her. Therefore I don't consider the picture replaceable. Tryggvia 08:39, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
- Our fair use policy forbids using a non-free image if a free image could be created that could be used in its place. See criterion #1 and counter-example #8. In this case, it would be possible to create a free image; therefore this non-free image may not be used. Whether a free replacement image exists or not at this time is not relevant. – Quadell (talk) (random) 14:01, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
This is a prime example of over-enthusiastic fair use criteria misinterpretation. This photo is FINE for use on Wikipedia - all rights issues have been addressed (the fact that it was released as a promotional photo indicates, in its very DNA, that the photographer and subject both have agreed to waive all claims to the image in exchange for its wide distribution and reproduction).
This is NOT a fair use violation, and the tag indicating as such should be removed. Jenolen 09:54, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
- Nobody's saying it's a fair use violation. It is indeed fair use. The question is, do we need a fair use image in this case? Can we use a free image instead? I believe we can. —Chowbok ☠ 16:50, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
The problem is that most likely a free image doesn't even exist. In a country of 300,000 people we don't have thousands of photos of famous people on the internet. Of the few photos I found, I think this one will be the most suitable, because it's a promotional photo. Therefore I suggest we keep this image until a free image will (possibly) be discovered. Tryggvia 21:24, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
- Current Wikipedia policy is that it's better to have no image than a replaceable fair-use one. —Chowbok ☠ 21:36, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
I understand that. But I doubt it's replaceable. Tryggvia 22:10, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
I think it's entirely fair to put out a "request for free image" -- and if a free image of this person comes to light, or is created by someone, then fantastic. Until such a free image is created by an interested Wikipedian -- Chowbok, you up for a trip to Iceland? -- this is a clear cut case of fair use, and the image should be left alone. Jenolen 23:52, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
Also, keep in mind: The fair use policy is considered a guideline on Wikipedia. It is generally accepted among editors and is considered a standard that all users should follow. However, it is not set in stone and should be treated with common sense and the occasional exception.
Jenolen 23:56, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
- Perhaps a post to Wikipedia:Icelandic Wikipedians' notice board is in order? —Chowbok ☠ 00:01, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
- Jenolen, your link is misleading. You say "fair use policy" but but you link to Wikipedia:fair use, which is indeed a guideline. Wikipedia:Fair use criteria is a policy, and it says (among other things) we only use unfree images when they are unrepeatable. --Abu Badali 04:34, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
