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The purpose in moving my original user talk page was to allow new comments to come up first, and I could notice it faster than added comments. As I read comments, I'll move them to that page. Be sure you put a title in your item so I can know what it's generally about.

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[edit] NYC area code map problem

Hi. It seems to me that the area code maps that show the NYC area as an inset include portions of New York State that are not part of New York City, namely, the inclusion of Nassau and Westchester Counties as part of NYC. All of the maps with the inset (a good example would be this and this) show this error. You might want to correct it. Thanks. Herr Ratselhaft 22:15, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Copyright problems with Image:Georgia Ave DC.PNG

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NE2 17:25, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

This image was, in my opinion, a transformative use and constituted fair use, but in the interest of reducing friction, it has been replaced by a known pd image. Paul Robinson (Rfc1394) 20:11, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image copyright problem with Image:Florida_Ave_(Washington_DC).GIF

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This image is not being used and is marked for speedy deletion. Paul Robinson (Rfc1394) 20:11, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] BadJPEG tag on Image:Gulf.jpg

Hello, Rfc1394. I see you removed the {{badJPEG}} tag on Image:Gulf.jpg, saying that the JPEG is 4K, but when converted to PNG it becomes 24K. I have restored the {{badJPEG}} tag on this image. I have no doubt that converting this JPEG directly to a PNG increases the file size dramatically; that's because the JPEG image suffers from compression artifacts, and saving all of these compression artifacts in a PNG requires a large file. To replace this JPEG with a PNG, someone will need to clean up all the compression artifacts first in a graphics editor, or find a non-JPEG version (such as a GIF) and convert that to a PNG. Please see Wikipedia:Preparing images for upload for more information. —Bkell (talk) 19:36, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

I did exactly that. I did not directly convert to PNG; I converted it to a different, non-compressed format, then saved as PNG. I recreated the image in a non-compressed format that stores the image as-is without compression artifacts, exited the editor, loaded the new image in and saved it as PNG. It is still 6 times as large as a PNG image as it is as a JPEG. I tried again, with the compression artifact-free image using The Gimp at maximum compression for PNG, and it's still 20K. In short, there is no way to get this image to be less than quadruple the size of a jpeg as a PNG. I have therefore again removed the 'badjpeg' tag because it is misleading, the PNG format would be worse. If you're going to make claims such as that a jpeg file is worse than a png file, I think it would make more sense to verify your claims - as I have done - before you make them. It is unreasonable to just blatantly make unverified claims when others actual experience dictates otherwise. It's also unreasonable to force people on dial-up lines to have to take more than six times as long to load an image simply over some theory that is totally wrong. If my tone is a little harsh, please note I'm not happy that you just blithely presumed something, then come along and make unwarranted changes without even asking me about it. Paul Robinson (Rfc1394) 00:59, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
Where did you get the image that was free of compression artifacts? I'd like to try it myself, if I could. —Bkell (talk) 00:59, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
Okay. I've redrawn the logo to get rid of the compression artifacts. I saved the image as a PNG. The new image, Image:Gulf.png, is 1,454 bytes. The old image, Image:Gulf.jpg, is 3,987 bytes. This amounts to a savings of 63.5%, and the PNG image is crisper and cleaner. I rest my case. —Bkell (talk) 04:09, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] DHCP

Sorry for not responding sooner, but school resumed yesterday, among other things. It is less imposing now–until you scroll down, that is. The lead needs to be longer but not imposing, and the rest of the article needs to be trimmed of what's really just technical information. (Incidentally, is the reason for your username that you are the author of the RFC in question?) — SheeEttin {T/C} 02:34, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Pike

Why add a paragraph that is only vaguely correct, when only a little more effort can result in the correct information with full references? (See [1].) BlankVerse 00:02, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Introducing Templates

Paul, I'll assume that you had the best of intentions when creating the template:human Sexuality. Many of us editors consider it extremely unfriendly when you go adding a template to pages that we spend alot of work on without any discussion first. In this case the page was a disclaimer page that is not allowed by wikipedia. I had to personally go through most of the pages that you added it to, and remove it, a big pain in the butt for me, and a waste of my time.

If you have an interest in sexuality articles, we have a wikipedia project, Wikipedia:WikiProject Sexology and sexuality that you could join, and then when you want to do something like that, you can get consensus amongst other people first', and then not risk stepping on lots of toes. Atom 16:09, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] zip method 7

from the zip article (with your addition in bold)

  • Tokenizing (Method 7)
This method number is reserved. The PKWARE specification does not define an algorithm for it. This is because the format was developed (as a non-proprietary open specification) by a third-party other than PKWARE for specialized usage.
Do you have any source for this information and if possible more detail on who the third party was and what the specialized usage was? Plugwash 16:34, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
Yes. The source was me, because I was the one who proposed it to Phil Katz as a method of compressing text files for use in source code of computer programs. He made this method name reserved for that purpose. Paul Robinson (Rfc1394) 18:51, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
Cheers, is the spec on the web anywhere so we can link to it? Plugwash 17:51, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image copyright problem with Image:LiIon 300x165.jpg

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This image has been marked with indications that it is not copyrighted. Paul Robinson (Rfc1394) 19:45, 30 October 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Image:A&W root beer bottle.png

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[edit] List of all newspapers in the United States

Help! In deriving an overall list scheme into which all United States newspapers may be categorized, I attempted to duplicate your work and create transclusion links for the Inhabited insular areas on the List of all newspapers in the United States. I can't figure out what I am doing wrong. Would you mind taking a crack at it and seeing if you can get the transclusion for the Inhabited insular areas on the List of all newspapers in the United States to work? Thanks. (And please let me know which transclusion link steps I didn't implement)-- Jreferee 19:03, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Okay, here's what was incorrect: When there was a link such as [[List of newspapers in Bajo Nuevo Bank|Bajo Nuevo Bank]] which appears as Bajo Nuevo Bank, then using that as a link, it must be exactly identical when transcluded, so that the link used would have to be like this: {{:List of newspapers in Bajo Nuevo Bank}}. When you had it transcluded, you had it as {{:List of newspapers in the Bajo Nuevo Bank}} There was an extra the present in the transclusion link. When all four of the entries had this changed, the transclusion works. Paul Robinson (Rfc1394) 21:38, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Thank you. I copied everything exactly from one of your working links and it was driving me batty trying to figure out what went wrong. I spent about eight hours trying to sort out all the United States newspaper stuff. Now that everything is transcluded in the main list List of all newspapers in the United States and there are plenty of new lists to satisfy everyone's concerns, I will move on to something else. -- Jreferee 01:27, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] WikiCast Chess programme

Hi,

Your recording of the Chess Article is noted, Would you be interested in assisting the development of a Chess related 'podcast' for WikiCast?

ShakespeareFan00 13:16, 6 December 2006 (UTC)


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[edit] Area code articles' number ordering

Heya. What sort of naming convention are you following when the article has two area code numbers such as Area codes 410 and 443; are you putting the numbers in numerical order, or are you putting the overlay number after the existing area code? Area codes 240 and 301 seem to be in numerical order, but Area codes 703 and 571 appear to have the overlay code after the existing one. -Taco325i 21:41, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] image madness never ends

Please see your wikinews talk page. Bawolff 04:50, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

And again! :-)
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[edit] move

I have moved Ph:CheckUser to User:Rfc1394/sandbox. I am sure it does not belong in the (Main) namespace. -- RHaworth 14:08, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Kentucky county list

I like what you've done with your template on List of counties in Kentucky. Is it your intention to finish that work, or did you start it for an example for someone else to finish? Since I had just revamped the list, I had intended to nominate it for featured list before you began your work, but now your work will have to be finished before the nomination can happen. Please let me know. Acdixon 18:25, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

There is a problem; see below.
I revised the page because the new macros used to define the entries provide more information and make the internal format of the page cleaner (at least in my opinion). I shall try to finish the page by moving the rest of the entries to the new table format by the end of today, and then you can propose it as a best list. Paul Robinson (Rfc1394) 18:37, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Without question, the template makes things cleaner, and the external links ought to preclude the need for the second table. Just wanted to know if I needed to find the time to finish it or if you were coming back to it. I think between the work we've both done, this ought to be a shoe-in for Featured List. Thanks for your help! Acdixon 18:46, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

I noticed when I was adding the FIPS codes for each county, that in the list of counties which include histories, Wayne County is missing, but it appears in the census info list. This will need to be fixed; I will put the county in the table with empty history information and you can look it up. Paul Robinson (Rfc1394) 19:00, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing out this error. I had intended to double-check the list and simply forgot it. I'll locate and add the appropriate information. Acdixon 19:17, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Your edit of January 26 created two tables listing the counties to change the article from your edit of January 15. Unfortunately when you did the edit of January 26 you left out Wayne County in the new table. You need to see if there is a map image for that county. I was just mostly checking to make sure I hadn't made the mistake. I won't criticize because I've made errors too, and I realized that I could have made the same mistake, so the only suggestion I will make is when doing a long list of items, you might try comparing item by item against another list so you don't miss any; that's how I spotted the missing item. I'm thinking it would have been embarrassing to propose it as a featured list and they point out it's incorrect, or worse, if it gets approved and it's discovered later that it was. :) Paul Robinson (Rfc1394) 19:14, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

This is kind of funny.
I gather you copied the entry for Washington County to create the entry for Wayne County. When I was saving my changes I got an edit conflict. So I checked and found you had added the new information for Wayne County. However, the map specified for Wayne County was the map for Washington County! I did correct that, however. I find it kind of funny, so don't think I'm picking on you.  :) Paul Robinson (Rfc1394) 20:40, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Yes, thank you for correcting my carelessness again. I know you're not picking on me. We both just want a quality product. Acdixon 21:13, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] County5 template

Something seriously weird is going on with your County5 template. It was working fine when List of counties in Kentucky was promoted to featured list, but it looks like some people have been monkeying with it and now it's broken, as you can see by looking at the current state of the list of Kentucky counties. I'm not a good template editor, and at least one other editor has been stumped. Could you take a look and see if you could straighten out the mess someone has made? Thanks. Acdixon 14:30, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] List of counties in Kentucky

Thanks for adding the extremely impressive image map to List of counties in Kentucky. In the interests or readability, I moved it from the very start of the page to lower down. I restored the individual county maps, as they enable anybody reading the article to instantly see where the county there are interested in is. I also dropped the size of the image slightly to prevent horizontal scrollbars (you don't have to chnage the image maps co-ords for that). Tompw (talk) 11:35, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Oh, as you know, there's another 49 states to work through, should you have any free time :-) Tompw (talk) 11:37, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your work on this list. With your addition, it's now even better! I think Tompw's changes are good ones, but there's no question this map is a great new feature. Acdixon 13:35, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Source of Area code information

Hi, I'm working on adding some area and ZIP code information to US cities and towns, but need to find boundary files first. Do you have any TIGER files or shapefiles for the area codes of the United States? Any tables related to area codes (such as mapping city/town names to area codes) would also be helpful. The sooner I can get my hands on the data the better, so that I can add it to the articles, so let me know. Thanks, --CapitalR 01:39, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Glassroth v. Moore

Hello! I noticed that you are the creator of the article of a court case Glassroth v. Moore. I have a question regarding the case. This case said erecting a Ten Commandment monument at a courthouse is unconstitutional. But in 2003 the case Freethought Society of Greater Philadelphia v. Chester County decided by Judge Edward Roy Becker of the Third Circuit ruled that a Ten Commandment display in a courthouse in Pennsylvania is OK. There is apparently conflict between the two cases. Has this conflict been addressed by SCOTUS or any other authority? Wooyi 18:49, 18 March 2007 (UTC)


I don't think there has been a resolution of this conflict.

Well, having read, at least in part, the PDF of Freethought, I could argue that the court in that case had a different issue. In Glassroth, Chief Justice Moore had a large monument (essentially a large rock or piece of marble, I think) which weighed over a ton, installed right in the middle of the State Supreme Court entrance vestibule where everyone going into the building had to walk past. In Freethought the item in question was a 60-year-old brass plaque on the side of the building, and no real attempt to draw attention to the plaque had been made in decades. I think the issue in Glassroth was solved by moving the monument out of the building and onto a public park. So we still have a public display of the Ten Commandments on public land, but it's not in a place where it's being given attention to or where people otherwise have to go and are thus forced to see a government-sponsored religious display.

I think the issue is not of the government having a monument or display which references the ten commandments as much as placing it in an area where people who are otherwise forced to go there are required to be exposed to a government-mandated display of a religious artifact. Personally I think it's a stretch, but you could argue the Ten Commandments do have at least some legal relevance because of the prohibitions on certain conduct. Thus you can probably get away with the Ten Commandments but displays of a menorah and a baby in a manger are clearly improper. But even then, if the display is in a public park rather than on the grounds of city hall or the courthouse there might be more leeway given since people can decide to go visit the park or not; if they need to see their local representatives or sue or defend a suit, they have to go to the government building. This is probably why courts have found display of the Ten Commandments in schools to be unconstitutional because attendance in buildings of public education is compulsory.

It is arguable that there is enough difference between the two that the two rulings could stand. Take a look at the Lemon test and how the courts - specifically the Supreme Court - treat issues which may be both secular and religious in nature.

Now, if you were a city and wanting to allow a display of a baby in a manger, what you do is have some provision for allowing any group that collects some small number of signatures - say 100 - to be allowed to put up a display related to the holidays in December. They get a space of, say, ten feet by 5 feet. Petitions may be submitted any time, the period to display opens the day after Thanksgiving, and ends the last day of January. Petitioners must post a bond or deposit adequate to cover the cost of removing the display if they fail to do so, the deposit being refunded if they do remove all traces of their display, and there is no restriction on content as long as it is not in bad taste, obscene, etc. Now, as long as you allow anyone who complies with the rules to put up a display, regardless of content, you have a content-neutral display that would be permissible. But in that, if someone who otherwise qualifies wants to put up a satanic display, or an atheist one, they have to allow it. If it's content neutral, even though the content is religious in nature, the display would be permissible.

Personally, I think a display of the Ten Commandments represents a clearly religious-based display because of the provision of things related to the Christian concept of religion and should not be used on a government building. Now, if they only displayed the non-religious articles (which would probably reduce it to The Three Commandments!), I'd personally have no problem with it otherwise. Paul Robinson (Rfc1394) 02:23, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your long explanation. Now I understand more about this issue. My personal opinion is that no matter how the "establishment clause" get interpreted, it is not our priority to take off religious display from government buildings. Now we have the Iraq War, War on Drugs, Plame affair, and lots of more egregious government misconduct. A true civil liberties activist would target those things first and not to attack religion. Just my opinion, no offense. Thank you again! Wooyi 21:24, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 20 singles template

Hey, I was thinking about nominating Template:20 Singles (which you made) for deletion for several reasons, but am wondering why you created it, and if its existence is still a good idea, and stuff like that. It would be great to know if the template is still worth keeping. Thank you, GracenotesT § 01:16, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

I ended up creating a 21 Singles template, what it's used for is to show the years before and after a year listing single phonorecords in a given year. 21 singles gives me 10 before and 10 after the particular year. An even number means I have to make one of them have more than the other than be even. See, for example Category:1985 singles, which uses the 21 template. Since you mentioned it, I've marked it with the delete template. Paul Robinson (Rfc1394) 01:55, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
Okay. Thank you! GracenotesT § 04:53, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Problem with edits at List of counties in Wisconsin

Somewhere in here, something went horribly awry... I don't have time to dig through it to figure it out right now, but thought if you have time, you might ought be better-prepared to fix it than I... Cheers, Tomertalk 23:41, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] User:Example

I have made a change to the userbox on User example to allow people to learn how to look up their statistics page, that tells how many edits they have made. If you don't like this feature, either change it back or let me know. I think it's a nice idea that if someone wants to claim how many edits they've made, they can prove it, or they can look up their edit counts. Paul Robinson (Rfc1394) 09:36, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

As I mentioned on my comment at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Several subpages of User:Example, I don't claim ownership of that account's pages, so there's no need to ask me whenever any change is made to them. In fact, I didn't even create its user page, only its user talk page. --cesarb 09:44, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

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