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[edit] Failed "good article" nomination 2/24

This article failed good article nomination. This is how the article, as of February 24, 2007, compares against the six good article criteria:

1. Well written?: lead too short
2. Factually accurate?: ref need to be linked properly
6. Images?: may not be fair use

When these issues are addressed, the article can be resubmitted for consideration. Thanks for your work so far. --Buc 23:27, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

The lead has been expanded, and the Refs have been properly cited - According, to Wikipedia talk:Citing sources#Order of Information, The current format being used to present Citations should be fine. The only thing left is the images. -- ShadowJester07  ►Talk  18:35, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mr. Peck

Rex didn't leave Florida "after the departure of Coach Steve Spurrier." His final year as the Gators QB (2002-2003 season) was with Ron Zook as his head coach, and Spurrier was coaching the Washington Redskins at the time. Somebody please amend that part of his biography.

Should be good now. Thanks for pointing it out -- ShadowJester07  ►Talk  22:53, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 68.72.163.221

Please do not add trivia to the lede section of Wikipedia articles. The fact that the info you are adding is not directly related to Rex Grossman's notability as an NFL player indicates that it belongs in another section. Themindset 19:51, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Can we please stop deleting the info. about Grossman being a Jew !! This is not Triva but rather info. about him. (unsigned by 68.72.163.215)
Hey, I'm a Bear fan too, but cool it. KyuuA4 05:21, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 3rd opinion

I have filed for a 3rd opinion on the current edit dispute. Themindset 20:11, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

I believe the paragraph about Grossman's supposed status as a nonpracticing Jew should be aggressively deleted unless and until a reputable source can be found substantiating the claims. The first web page cited in the article does not support the contention that Grossman is a nonpracticing Jew, but says quite flatly that he is not a Jew, despite rumors to the contrary. The second web page doesn't even mention Grossman at all. Even if this information were true, it does not belong in the lead paragraph. Grossman is famous as a football player, which has little to do with his religious heritage. Rohirok 20:52, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
Agreed. I moved it to its own section prior to checking sources. Unless some reliable sources can be found for these statements they should be removed. Fagstein 20:54, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
According to some die-hard Chicago Bears fans, Rex is not jewish. The idea was supposedly created

by some radio personalities on 670 The Score (a Chicagoland Radio Station). I'm guessing the misconception is spawned by Rex's last name, which is often believed to be a Jewish heritage. [1] [2] [3] :) --ShadowJester07 03:15, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] pic

can we get a better picture, like one that makes him look like a football player rather than a news reporter?

Finding a Fair use NFL image is almost impossible. You're welcome to attempt to get a Screenshot of Rex during one of his several post-game appearances on FOX-WFLD --ShadowJester07 22:26, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Weekly Updates

It is probably for the best that we stop continuously updating the Prof. Career section with Rex's weekly highs and lows. For one thing, it makes the article seems as a News Desk as opposed to an actual WP Article, (See Wikipedia:Is Not). Second, Rex's is seemingly subjective; While some fans claimed his performance to be "average" Cory Mcpherrin and the people at Mike North Shore praised Rex for his performance. Lastly, the articles for other, more significant, NFL players are not updated on weekly basis unless they do something extraordinary, See Chad Johnson, Steve Smith, Brian Urlacher, Tom Brady, and Steve Smith (NFL). I'd say we should just wait till the end of the season - or a couple of more weeks - before updating the article. --ShadowJester07 01:04, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

I agree but then you'll need to rewrite current section to eliminate references to first 10 games and make it more generic. Otherwise it'll look incomplete or not up-to-date to casual observer and ppl will put a few words. Papushin 15:24, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
How about we just leave it out for now, and complete it sometime later? --ShadowJester07 20:13, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
I took the liberty of adding a few post scripts to Rex's 2006 season, including a few passing statistics that highlighted his up-and-down regular season. (No1vickfan) <---- sorry I don't have an official log in name yet —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 165.2.186.10 (talk) 19:25, 1 January 2007 (UTC).
I went ahead and added his career statistics, including this season's. Is the timing on that okay?
Er, the Stats aren't really needed, as there are already 3+ links that show off Grossman's stats. While they are a fairly nice detail, Standalone stat tables aren't very useful compared to splicing statistics into an article's main body - ei Grossman's College Career. Also, given that Lovie declared he will keep Rex as the Bears' starter during the post season, it may be a bit too early. ;) --ShadowJester07 09:03, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
Fair enough, but - and this is just a personal preference - I like to see the statistics on the Wikipedia page instead of having to click a link to an external one. Lazy? Maybe. I won't add them in again. Benq31 07:03, 3 January 2007 (UTC

If One wants to add the statistics, please use the format on the Peyton Manning page, as it is one of the few well-written and sourced Wikipedia Articles. [4] -- ShadowJester07  ►Talk  00:07, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Here I did what you suggested ShadowJester07...looks better. Thanks for the tip! --user:lakersnbulls91

[edit] Mikey Award

Whenever the Bears post-season is over, could we mention that Mike and Mike in the Morning on ESPN Radio gave him their annual Mikey Award for Disappointing Player of the Year for the 2006 NFL season? For proof, play the whole broadcast, and eventually, at about 52 minutes, they announce it. Go to this website: [5]

[edit] Grossman's QB rating against the Seahawks?

Does anybody know what it was? Maybe it could be thrown into the article, since I know it was a vast improvement over the Packers game. Dominicus Cerberus 20:18, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

It was around 70, not that special. I think the 1.3 to 114 is more significant ;-) -- ShadowJester07  ►Talk  20:20, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] This article mentioned in the Chicago Tribune

This morning's Chicago Tribune (section 4, page 2) talks about the semiprotect on this page as the topic of a one-paragraph blurb. The "article" is called "Writing not on 'virtual' wall for Rex (for now)" and reads in part: "It's time to take a breath and slow it down. The online encyclopedia/database Wikipedia has disabled user comments/input/bio material on Grossman's Wikipedia page for unregistered or newly registered users. High praise of Rex and his newfound notoriety or not, such a move is usually reserved for politicians' biographies on Wikipedia." Sounds like the Tribune still isn't looking at Wikipedia very much... since they don't know we're just as likely to semiprotect Christianity and Buddhism or a host of "controversial" characters from Naruto. Anyway, thought I'd mention the mention. Dekimasuが... 13:49, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Good Find. Here's the online Article [6] -- ShadowJester07  ►Talk  23:45, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] GA on hold

The article is well-written with lots of sources and a free image (good job!). There are a few things that should be fixed before I pass it however.

  1. Go through the article and make sure the inline citations are directly after the punctuation with no spaces in between.
  2. "Rex Grossman was born in Bloomington, Indiana, to Daniel and Maureen Grossman." I don't think a comma is needed after Indiana. Keep it if you think it does.
  3. "His high school legacy is well remembered through the numerous passing records he set, and the later retirement of his jersey." Well remembered by who? Students? Residents of his hometown? When was the jersey retired?
  4. "Grossman continued his success by leading the Gators to a 10-2 season in 2001. He came in second to University of Nebraska quarterback Eric Crouch in one of the closest votes in Heisman Trophy history [8], (the closest being in 1985, when Auburn University's Bo Jackson beat out Chuck Long of Iowa by 16 points)," The closest points difference is mentioned at 16, but was the point difference for his?
  5. Add wikilinks for passer rating, interception, & fumble (Return section).
  6. "He has been married to Alison Miska since July 9, 2005.[39] He resides in Bloomington, Indiana, during the offseason." Combine the two sentences.
  7. Consider converting the statistics at the end of the article into a table, similar to the one found at Brett Favre's article.

Add inline citations for:

  1. Grossman received national recognition as the 1998 Indiana Player-of-the-Year by USA Today, and was ranked among the top fifteen players in the nation by the National Recruiting Advisor.
  2. He received state-wide honors when he was named "Indiana's Mr. Football" later that year.

Again, the article looks pretty good, it just needs a few things fixed. I'll put the article on hold for up to seven days, and by then will fail it if no progress is made. Let me know on my talk page if you have any questions or when you are done with the above suggestions. --Nehrams2020 23:00, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

I've struck through all of the items fixed so far. Just fix the inline citations and add a source for the USA Today and National Recruiting Advisor statement. --Nehrams2020 00:01, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
I believe I have now got all the inline citations, it felt like a puzzle game of some sort :p. Also, I cited the Awards, as they were also located in the rexgrossman.com source. -- ShadowJester07  ►Talk  00:11, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] GA passed

I have passed the article since the above suggestions are fixed. Good job on fixing them so quickly. Make sure that all new information continues to be sourced and verified. On a side note, the inline citation you added for the USA Today statement needs a space after it before Parade magazine. Keep up the good work, and if you have the time, please review an article or two at GAC to assist in the backlog. Good job on helping to improve the quality of articles on Wikipedia! --Nehrams2020 08:36, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

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