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POV and not a nickname

That's some pretty tough talk when a source to a major newspaper is cited saying "aka" ... - the universal prefix for a nickname Jaskaramdeep 02:51, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

The "universal prefix"? A POV based opinion does not remove a POV concern. One could site any number of names that any number of players have been called at one time or another. A city, or in this case, newspaper, suffering from jilted lover syndrome does not qualify this as a nickname. Resolute 02:54, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
Where is this definition of what is a nickname and what isn't? Maybe I should have referred to it when creating the field in the template, instead of linking it to an entire Wikipedia page, whose definition is this: A nickname is a short, clever, cute, derogatory, or otherwise substitute name for a person or thing's real name ... A nickname is sometimes considered desirable, symbolising a form of acceptance, but can often be a form of ridicule. Your argument that "A city, or in this case, newspaper, suffering from jilted lover syndrome does not qualify this as a nickname" is full of holes - this article is from the Calgary Sun. Jaskaramdeep 03:15, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
The article was reprinted in the Calgary Sun, but Zeisberger is not a Calgary Sun writer. It is a SunMedia story originating from another paper. Not that this is terribly relevent. I stand by my comment: just because one paper says something does not make it a nickname. In this case it should be especially obvious to anyone but someone allowing their own feelings regarding Pronger to enter the equasion. Resolute 03:54, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Oh, I think it's pretty relavent. You discounted something because you thought the person was being a homer, and it turns out that the person has no personal affilitation with the Oilers. One person is not saying this; the entire city of Edmonton is saying it. If this is the Resolute from HFboards, I am sure you have heard the "move over Peter Puck, move over Mike Comrie" banter over the last few months. There is always a public enemy #1 in Edmonton, and that title now belongs to Chris Pronger. This is just one article that says so, I could find more that say the same thing. Jaskaramdeep 04:21, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Actually, I discounted it because it is a POV statement, and not a nickname, exactly as I said. I am also quite aware of the opinion of Oiler fans. I've been reverting their vandalism on this article for months now. I reverted your edit because I have never ONCE heard anyone refer to Pronger regularally as "Public Enemy #1 in Edmonton", thus, IMO, is not a nickname. If anything it belongs in the main article as a cited reference to how Oiler fans feel about Pronger's trade request. Resolute 04:33, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
Isn't saying that you've "never ONCE heard ... regularly" a contradiction? Anyways, you've heard it at least once - in the article I cited. In any case, I have Edmonton's Canoe writer saying that he's public enemy #1" [1], and here's the kicker. I have Pronger HIMSELF saying he's "public enemy #1" in Edmonton [2]. If that's not regular enough for you, I'm not sure what more I can do to prove this nickname is valid. Jaskaramdeep 18:32, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
So? Being described as something does not make it a nickname. Don Koharski's nickname did not become "Fat Pig" after Jim Schoenfeld called him one. I have never heard one individual regularally refer to Pronger as that. ie: it is not a nickname that anybody uses, simply an opinion of what Oiler fans think of him. Resolute 19:22, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
Where is this definition of a nickname you keep referring to? Take a look at the nickname page on Wikipedia to see just how broad a category "nickname" encompasses. And now it's "one individual" referring to someone regularly that makes it a nickname? You just keep pulling ideas out of a hat, and tossing them up as fact. This is not just what Oiler fans think of him. If you actually read my last response you'd see that this is what Pronger even thinks of himself. Jaskaramdeep 23:01, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
This is the last time I will waste my time saying this: Being described as something does not make it a nickname. Resolute 23:31, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
Alright. Then this will be the last time I say this: How can you prove that? Jezus christ, maybe I should have just named the field "what people refer to him as" It's bad enough that there's billions of Wikinazis running around enforcing every rule to make themselves feel big, but when you start telling me what a field I created means, that's going too farJaskaramdeep 23:37, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
You do not own any part of Wikipedia any more than I do. Creating the template does not give you ownership of its contents, nor does it give you exclusive right to dictate what goes in it. I've tried to compromise by adding a blurb on this in the main article. If that is not good enough for you, then I suggest taking it to the community. I'm adding a request for others at WP:HOCKEY to comment. Resolute 23:55, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
A nickname is something that a player becomes better known as (ie. ROCKET Richard) or what the fans chant/call him, (ie. Eddie the Eagle, CuJo, etc.). Public Enemy #1 in Edmonton does not qualify as a nickname because he is not commonly known as that, it's more of a title than anything. We could probably dig up a tonne of negative statements about many players and claim them as nicknames, but that would be stupid. -- Scorpion0422 00:21, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
Outside of Edmonton, nobody has heard of this. Flibirigit 03:54, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
That certainly does not qualify as a nickname. I've never heard of anyone calling him this until today. Some journalist making light of the fact that he is unpopular in Edmonton does not mean that "Public Enemy #1" is his alias. DMighton 06:03, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

This is a completely absurd issue. There are exactly 23 Google hits for "public enemy #1" and "Pronger," and almost all of those either are from random blogs or do not refer to Pronger at all. That wouldn't remotely pass muster in any AfD discussion. Furthermore, Jaskaramdeep may find it well worth his while to review the requirements of WP:BIO regarding the positive duty of Wikipedia editors to aggressively delete spurious derogatory material concerning living persons, and WP:OWN generally. Looks like he's tripped over Godwin's Law as well. To paraphrase Samuel Johnson, screeching about "XNazis" is the last refuge of someone who's losing the argument. RGTraynor 07:07, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Andddd ... while this is unrelated, isn't it really high time that sports fans stopped acting like 3-year-old brats when a player jumps ship? Are Edmonton fans apologizing for signing Petr Sykora as a free agent? How about Steve Staios? Sheesh, the Oilers traded Pronger, last I noticed, and got respectable value for him. RGTraynor 07:20, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
Oh give me a break. First, the Rangers were not going to brink Sykora back. Since when is re-signing your own free agent against the rules? What is against the rules is signing a contract, then breaking it, which is what Pronger did, and if you have a problem with Oilers fans getting upset that Pronger, or whoever else screws them, then maybe it's you who should stop acting like a 3-year old. Do you know why comrie gets booed? He slept with Tommy Salo's wife. Do you know why Doug Weight gets booed? He said he would only accept a trade to St. Louis or Detroit. Do you know why Chris Pronger will be booed? His leaving broke up a contending team. Not only himself, but also Jaroslav Spacek, who left because he did. He said "the team will not be the same" as part of the reason why he accepted less money to sign with the Sabres.

And RGTraynor, while you're doing Google searches, try doing a search for Wikinazi. It's just an expression. Also, if you took time to actually read my edit, you would see these three references, to news sources (not blogs/whatever you're on about). [3][4][5]. Oh, and here's ANOTHER one from today [6]. That's 4 without me breaking a sweat. Just ask it you need more.

Resolute, first of all calm down. No one owns parts of wikipedia. I created this template for oilers players, and then someone wanted me to expand it to be used for all NHL players, then someone wanted me to expand it to be used for all hockey players everywhere. If I wanted to keep it for my own use I wouldn't have done so. Jaskaramdeep 14:43, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Four whole reporters using the turn of phrase? Just four? Come back to us when you have four hundred cites. John Bucyk's been retired nearly 30 years and his nickname has 350 hits. Geez, Gary "Suitcase" Smith has over 200 hits. That aside, your intentionally offensive use of the term "Wikinazi" for those who oppose your POV remains offensive, well known expression or otherwise. Were I to call you a "m*****f*****", I imagine you'd be offended, however much the term has nearly 1.5 million Google hits. Finally, your arguments are much better suited to a blog or a hockey bulletin board. I'm sure you'll have little problem promulgating your crusade on such a forum, but until such a change becomes generally accepted and documented amongst the wider public, it remains unencyclopedic. RGTraynor 05:58, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Pronger discussion

Actually, Pronger never broke his contract. He requested a trade, which the Oilers granted. There is no indication that he did, or would have, violated his agreement in any way. Resolute 17:13, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
Oh really? Then why did the Prongers sell their house in Terwillegar mid-playoffs? This is why people can't understand why oilers fans boo former players - they're uninformed. And it's probably not their fault either. The eastern media bias in this country does their best to kick edmonton while they're down. Pronger was gone - he would have sat in mexico for 4 years waiting for Lowe to deal him. Jaskaramdeep 18:56, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
Believe me, I am well aware of the situation, and why Oiler fans are so upset. I've never once gotten on the case of an Oiler fan for being upset at Pronger. In the context of Wikipedia, however, random means of expressing that frustration almost always violate the site's policies.
The fact is, you dont know what Pronger would have done had Lowe not traded him. He most certantly did not break his contract before the trade, so your statement is patently false, and thoughts on what he would have done if still an Oiler at the start of this season are the same type of baseless speculation as that of why he (or she) requested the trade in the first place. Most fans - even Flames fans like myself - can sympathize with Oiler fans over what Pronger did. But the fact is, he wasnt the first player to ever request a trade, and he wont be the last. He certantly doesnt fit in the same category as guys like Alexei Yashin and Doug Gilmour, who did break their contracts. Resolute 20:28, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
Ok, you are right in that he did not break the contract. But you can't deny that he had every intention to, given the opportunity. The fact that lowe didn't want to waste 6.25M in cap space per year, plus have no Pronger/Pronger trade return to start the season shouldn't mean he is any better than Yashin. Yashin asked for a trade, and was told to suit up for the season, which he didn't do the first time 'round. Pronger wasn't asked to suit up, because lowe has experience with holdouts, and knew he'd be better off just to move on ASAP - turn over a new leaf. That shouldn't make pronger any better than Yashin, because by all accounts, he was not going to even live in the city this year. He had no house! This is not "baseless speculation" - this part is fact. The speculation, if any, is that the player with no house in his team's city, is not going to play for said team in the upcoming season. Is that not reasonable? Jaskaramdeep 22:19, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

NHL Team Season Articles

I like your idea about making a page for NHL team's individual seasons (I found this out from Jaskaramdeep). And I would like to help you out by doing the web page for the Los Angeles Kings. Is that alright? Ksy92003 20:46, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Thank you. I will work hard to get as much information as I can. After I conclude the Kings 2006-07 season done, I will start working on other teams as well, with your permission. By the way, click here to go to the page that I am currently working on about the Los Angeles Kings 2006-07 season. Ksy92003 23:09, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
Thank you. I was just on there, editing that page, and I noticed at the bottom that a category had been added on there. I didn't think that I had done that, and I wasn't aware that it was you until about 15 minutes later. So thanks for your assistance. Ksy92003 05:21, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Also, I started working on the page for the Buffalo Sabres. Click here to check out this page. Make any and all changes you feel necessary. The other information I'll try to get up as soon as I possibly can. Ksy92003 06:41, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

I have completed most of everything for the Buffalo Sabres season. If you wish to view my work, click here. For both that one and my Los Angeles Kings seaon article, I have done one thing different than what you did for your 2006-07 Calgary Flames season article in the game logs. For that, I felt that it would be better to only show the team's upcoming games (usually their next 5 games, including records and the outcome of the previous meeting) as this would be easier for readers of the article to understand. I've added an external link to the team website and cited my sources for the draft picks for both articles. Again, feel free to check out those sites. Thank you again for giving me the opportunity to work on these articles. Ksy92003 16:09, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
The template for all teams is a good idea. Also, the main reason for me doing the upcoming games was because it would've taken me a long time to get the full schedule on there. I am relatively new to editing Wikipedia, so I just went with the shortest way that I knew how to do. If you wish to edit that and put the full team schedule in there, feel free to do so.
I think we should get a couple people for every team to work on that page. It would be easier if we only have to focus on our local team, and it would be nice if we could get the season for all 30 teams up. I am from Long Beach, California, and the Los Angeles Kings are my local team. I was also thinking about doing the page for the Anaheim Ducks at a later date. The reason why I also did the Buffalo Sabres page was because they are such a good team also and I wanted to get their page up as quickly as I could. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ksy92003 (talk • contribs) 18:38, 9 December 2006 (UTC).

I hope so. This was a really good idea you have, and I can't wait until we have a good page for every team. Perhaps later this weekend, I will begin working on the pages for the Anaheim Ducks and conclude my editing of the Draft Picks for the Buffalo Sabres

Calgary Flames

Hello, Resolute. I see you've been in discussion with the same Die-Hard Flames fan/One tracked mind anon-user, that I've been arguing with. Could you explain, to him what Co-Captain means & Alternate Captain means. Please & Thank you. GoodDay 03:52, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I'm getting dangerously close to the 3-Revert rule. I'm thinking of reaching a compromise with the anon-user. As he & I both have sources backing our argument. GoodDay 03:57, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Resolute. As the anon-user & I have reached the 3-edit limit. Would you do the honours of adding to the Flames article the following compromise edit: McDonald, Peplinski & Hunter, 1988-89 (tri-captains), with a Note to the dispute over Hunter's tri-captaincy? Thanks. GoodDay 04:27, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the compromise edit. PS-I hope my passionate discussion style with the anon-user, didn't upset or offend you. Sometimes, my passion for keeping Wikipedia in correct form, shamefully gets the best of me. GoodDay 05:02, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Hello, again. Just curious, could you correct the spelling of Jim Peplinski? GoodDay 13:43, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

No prob, I've fixed it. GoodDay 16:23, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

WCHL vs. WOJHL

Hey, I've been doing some extensive research on the Southern Ontario Junior A Hockey League. For two seasons, 1968-69 and 1969-70, they were a renegade league called the Western Ontario Junior A Hockey League. I was reading that during at least one of those two seasons the champions of the WOJHL and the WCHL faced off in a National title game. Ever heard of this? If not, could you look into it... the WHL still exists, the SOJHL doesn't... lol. If you have, could you please shed some light? DMighton 22:39, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

It would appear that the WHL doesnt consider this a very important event, as it was never mentioned in the WHL's history articles (which havent been brought back online since whl.ca was redesigned), and the media guide makes no mention of it. The Flin Flon Bombers website makes no mention if it either. It might have just been something done between the two teams without the involvement of the leagues? Resolute 23:51, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Royals

I see that you are pulling apart the Royal article... I hope you will be at least putting those stats I compiled on to the other pages... Spurs, Chinooks, Red Devils and all that... DMighton 23:28, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks man ;)... I'm gonna try to do stats for some of the other defunct teams too... like the Rustlers and Mount Royal and all that. Do you have any idea if the Mount Royal College Junior "A" team is separate from the College team? Do we even have articles for Canadian College or University hockey teams or leagues? HockeyDB has tons of stats for it. DMighton 23:38, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

CIS Hockey

I think I am going to start building a CIS Hockey article.. and then a OUA Article... as well as the teams... I'll probably start with the Windsor Lancer and Guelph Gryphons as they are my two local teams. Do you know where we can find some good stats for CCAA Hockey? DMighton 04:41, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

BTW, what kind of suffix should be used, do you think, for teams that have both men's and women's teams?
ex: Windsor Lancers (men's ice hockey)
any other ideas or does that sound good? I have found CIS Standings from 1995 to present, but no CCAA. DMighton 04:47, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

AHL overtime loss

Your comments are sought at this talk page. Talk:American_Hockey_League#Overtime_Loss. Thanks! !!!! Flibirigit 18:30, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

2002-03 Calgary Flames Season

Hey, just letting you know of an error in the Calgary Flames 2002-03 Season page. Under trades, you have listed that Chris Drury and Marc Savard were traded to Calgary from Colorado. Marc Savard was not part of this trade, and was never a Colorado Avalanche. The player included with Chris Drury was in fact Stephane Yelle. Just letting you know, and I have fixed this error.--24.66.200.193 11:11, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Oops! I was writing a bit on Savard for the 2001-02 page when I was reminded of that deal. Looks like I jumbled everything together. Thanks for the correction! Resolute 14:36, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Cases's ladder is very important please do not delete it!

No reason to —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dominoes2007 (talk • contribs).

I am not an admin, so cannot delete an article. However, I am not convinced the site satisfies WP:WEB, which is why I tagged it. If an admin disagrees with me that it is a speedy candidate, I will accept that decision. Are there multiple, non-trivial reliable sources that would establish the site's notability? Has it won a notable award from a well known publication? These are things that would help the article's cause, and certantly cause me to retract my speedy tag. I have not yet found such. Resolute 05:48, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

List of traditional filipino games

Hi.. i need to change the title as the word 'traditional' is spelled incorrectly, could you help me? thanks! katZ 03 00:14, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Not a problem. At the top of the article page, you will see a Move option. You can simply click on that link, and the new page will give you the option to move the article to a new title. You can correct the spelling mistake in this fashion. The resulting move will turn the old title into a redirect to the new article, which is not an issue. Hope this helps. Resolute 00:19, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Afd Peter Fossey

You may wish to reconsider your keep on this; the 4th place is for the Australian Meet, and not the Commonwealth Games - where he did not place as he did not finish the race! I don't know if #4 in the Austrialian games is notable enough - but I agree, if one error, how many more? SkierRMH 00:07, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

MLB season articles

Hi. I understand the concept of what you're doing with edits like this but the reality is that 2005 in baseball and 2005 MLB season share far too much content to be separate articles right now. They need to be merged somewhere ASAP. Otherwise, large chunks of content will be added to one article by one person and to the other article by another person and merging will become more and more difficult. I have no problem splitting them if there's enough content for both articles but I'd prefer that a plan for the split be in place before the split occurs. Let me know what you think. —Wknight94 (talk) 12:22, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

I responded at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of MLB seasons. Sorry to fork the discussion - I didn't realize that discussion was going on when I first posted on your talk page. —Wknight94 (talk) 00:27, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

User:Rugbyball

He didn't like my comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hemmings Motor News and related Hemmings publications that he put up for AfD, so he's been running around posting copies of my comments at AfD's I participated in, on top of other nonsensical edits. I reported him to WP:AIV and was told that what he was doing wasn't obvious vandalism (go figure), also to User:Metros232, who had warned him previously. Tubezone 19:44, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

What Game 6?

I'm not a big hockey fan (or I'd probably already know what you're talking about), but which Game 6 are you referring to? I was intrigued. 74.12.200.51

Game six of the 2004 Stanley Cup Finals. Gelinas had a puck deflect off his skate late in the third period of a tie game, that from at least one angle suggested the puck had crossed the goal line before Tampa's goalie pulled the puck out. The play was never reviewed at the time, though the league tried to claim it was (impossible for a proper review to have taken place given the short time between the apparent goal and when the next faceoff occured). The Lightning went on to beat Calgary in overtime, then went on to win game seven. Resolute 05:05, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

St. Albert Saints

Apparently, the guy wants sources on the page. DMighton 03:27, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Many of the facts in the article can be referenced from ajhl.ca and the media guide. I'll try to add the right cites this weekend, along with a season by season record. Resolute 05:09, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
Yeah... I've started sourcing the OPJHL article to a degree too... mostly with hockeydb.... vernon vipers history pages (seriously, good resource for Royal Bank/Centennial Cups)... and of course the league's ridiculously useless homepage. DMighton 18:58, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

List of films with similar themes and release dates AfD

Hi, you've expressed an opinion in the deletion discussion of this article. I've recently suggested a compromise in hopes of improving the article while keeping both sides happy, and would appreciate if you could revisit the issue. Thanks. --Wafulz 18:23, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

2006-07 New Jersey Devils season up for deletion!

Well, this is not good. Someone has nominated 2006-07 New Jersey Devils season, which I created last night, for deletion: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2006-07 New Jersey Devils season. If this article goes, obviously all the rest of our work is going to go up in flames as well. You need to voice your opinion on the AFD page, because I'd hate to see all this work we've done simply disappear. Skudrafan1 16:47, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Hello, Resolute. Wanted to let you know, I thinks the new 'NHL team seasons' articles are GREAT. They'll also make a perfect re-directs for the NHL team articles (thus shortening NHL team articles, which to older NHL team articles need). I've voted 'KEEP' on Skudrafan1's New Jersey Devils 2006-07 season article. GoodDay 23:47, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
Indeed, they well could. The Football wikiproject has alrady done this. In fact, Chicago Bears seasons is a featured list. Resolute 23:52, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks.

Hey Resolute - Thanks for your support on the List of Formula One fatal accidents, much appreciated ;-).--Skully Collins Edits 13:21, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Edit help needed

If you could, please add John Tavares (ice hockey player) to your watchlist. An anonymous user, 209.226.172.69 continuously adds incorrect ages, data, etc.. and uses non-neutral and negative wording. Thanks. Flibirigit 17:18, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Will do. Resolute 17:37, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

i don't believe it's spam

its jsut a page for people to buy and sell stuff. it's not even spamming. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by WBay (talk • contribs).

It is an article designed to promote a website that does not pass WP:WEB. It most definitely is spam. If you wish to challenge the speedy deletion tags, follow the proper procedure. The tag will be replaced all night long if need be. Resolute 05:36, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

it's not even a website

it's just a page to sell and buy things. ITS A PAGE. u just put whatever u want to trade in the page and then wait for someone to contact u. that's it. understand me? now stop putting back the tag —The preceding unsigned comment was added by WBay (talk • contribs).

I understand you. I also understand you have no interest in editing in accordance to Wikipedia's policies and guidelins. I have already explained to you several times the procedure to challenge a speedy deletion request on articles you create. Resolute 05:44, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

since u say me aren't u violating 3RR as well?

say people say urself—The preceding unsigned comment was added by WBay (talk • contribs).

No, WP:3RR excludes edits that revert vandalism. Removing deletion notices is considered vandalism. Several users have attempted to inform you of the steps to protest deletion. Please follow those steps rather than disrupting Wikipedia. Resolute 06:01, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Western Major Junior Championship

We don't seem to have an article for the Monseigneur Athol Murray Trophy which was the Western Canada Major Junior Championship post 1970... until I do not know when. Any thoughts? DMighton 13:11, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

I honestly don't think it was ever awarded. Hockey Canada's history section of their by-laws guide [7] says that the Athol Murray Trophy was to be awarded to the champions of Western Canada - however since there is only one league in Western Canada, the President's Cup (WHL) seems to have taken precidence. It's companion trophy, the George Richardson Memorial Trophy appears to have no longer been awarded after 1972, suggesting the concept was abandoned when the Memorial Cup tournament went to three teams. I can't confirm it, but I doubt the trophy was ever actually awarded. Its concept might make a decent mention on the Hockey Canada article in a section regarding the realignment of junior hockey in 1970 though. Resolute 16:31, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

List of ice hockey teams in Ontario

I updated Template:OHL and Template:Defunct OHL to try to simplify things. Template:OHL contains all teams past and current for the OHL. Template:Defunct OHL contains all past teams from the OMJHL and the OHA Junior A. That template may need to be renamed.

Regarding the article List of ice hockey teams in Ontario. How should we handle the defunct teams from the OHL, OMJHL, and OHA Junior A? Flibirigit 02:53, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

That is a really good question. I would like to add them, as it would allow the list to be both complete, and consistant with the others. I havent added defunct Jr A teams on any other article, but many of these OHA Jr A teams were the highest level of Junior hockey at the time, I believe, so should be added as being equivalent of Major-Junior. However, that will likely make this a really long list. It might make sense to split the article into two: active and defunct as I did with the baseball lists. I would suggest expanding the defunct teams and seeing how long the article gets, then deciding from there. If we hope to get it to featured list status, as I would like for all, then we can't use the template as a part of the article itself. Resolute 03:10, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Calgary Flames

Hello, Resolute. On Talk: Calgary Flames, I had (months ago) been in an argument with an anon-user about the Flames captaincy in 1988-89 season. My point was McDonald & Peplinski were co-captains, Tim Hunter alternate captain. The anon user's point was McDonald, Peplinski & Hunter were tri-captains. We both came up with conflicting sources. Though a compromise was reached (on the Flames page), I still think I'm correct. Think you could convince that anon-user? PS- I'm checking out, Infobox proposals. GoodDay 21:07, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

The section in talk: Calgary Flames was 'Tim Hunter'. The disagreeing anon-user 24.66.200.193. GoodDay 21:19, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
At the risk of reopening the edit war, I've gone ahead and removed Hunter, as you are absolutely correct. I've also added a citation to the Flames Media Guide, which, frankly, should trump most other sources. The Flames themselves did not consider Hunter a captain on that team, but an alternate captain. Resolute 21:25, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
Thanks. By the way, it's two (us) against one (anon user), that makes it a consensus (in our favour). I'll be keeping an eye on the Calgary Flames page. GoodDay 21:32, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Coloured Hockey League

Please help add some links to the Coloured Hockey League article. Thanks. I'm gonna add it to the List of ice hockey teams in Nova Scotia article. Flibirigit 20:13, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Salk School of Science

Hi,

I noticed that you contributed to the AfD debate on this school. I have made a contribution to this debate in which I discuss why the school is notable, and edited the article a bit. Any comments you could make would be much appreciated.

Thanks for your help with this.

Sincerely,

WMMartin 15:21, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Ashley Leitao

Hi Resolute,

I agree that this subject does not seem notable. It doesn't seem notable to me either. But according to wikipedia guidlines, notability is not subjective and the subject's inclusion in the multiple, independent, reliable published sources does satisfy the current criteria. Requiring that Ashley Leitao be included in sources that establish her notability separate from the Canadian Idol show is an additional requirement that I don't see anywhere in Wikipedia policy or guidelines. Also, you say that failed game show contestants are not notable. Usually they are not because they don't satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for notability, but this subject does. My vote for "keep" is in line with current guidelines, but several other editors along with me have the same reservations as you do about how these guidelines apply to reality show contestants. A discussion has been started at User_talk:Ohconfucius#Ashley_Leitao to come up with something that we could propose to the larger community for an amendment to the notability guidelines. If you have any ideas how we could identify types of people who must meet stronger standards for notability than is currently required by the guideline, please feel free to contribute to the discussion. Sancho McCann 07:01, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you for making a report on Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism. Removing and reporting vandalism is vital to the functioning of Wikipedia and all users are encouraged to revert, warn, and report vandalism. However, administrators are generally only able to block users if they have received a final warning (one that mentions that the user may be blocked) and they have recently vandalized after that warning was given. The reported user has not yet been blocked because it appears this has not occurred yet. If this user continues to vandalize even after their final warning, please report them again to the AIV noticeboard. Thanks. PS - last warning was given on 2/6, vandalism occurred on 2/8. I gave a 4im level warning, so if the IP user vandalizes again today, s/he will be blocked. Thanks for keeping an eye on wiki! -- Avi 15:19, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Logos on NHL Season-by-Team articles?

Someone recently posted to the talk page of the 2006-07 Buffalo Sabres page asking about adding the team's logo to the page. I would like to see the logo on the page myself, but I ask whether or not such an addition would violate Fair Use. I really don't know, and I don't want to add it if it will. Please guide, if you can. Thanks! Skudrafan1 04:23, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

I added my comments. Personally, I think it would be fair use this year, as the article discusses the new logo, but would not qualify for previous or future seasons. Resolute 04:53, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
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