Wikipedia talk:Requests for arbitration/Armenia-Azerbaijan/Evidence
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Guys, you're not allowed to make comments in other people's sections. Please remove all your comments, the evidence page is not for discussion. Khoikhoi 08:32, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Additional space
I exceeded my limit of 1000 words, but I’m afraid shortening my evidence could result in loss of some valuable evidence. Since this is not an ordinary case and it includes many users on both sides of the dispute, would it be possible to allow me use some extra space, considering that some of the users representing my side of the dispute did not submit any evidence? Grandmaster 11:59, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
- If you concentrate only on evidences and not justifying your misbehaviors and others, you will have more than enough space. On the other hand, being alone against 4 users, I am the only who is justified to have an extention. Fad (ix) 16:15, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
- You and me both use about 4000 words. And not all Azerbaijani parties to arbcom provided evidence, so it might be possible for others to use some of the space allocated to them. Most of my text is the evidence of wiki rules violations, which could be lost due to space limitation. Still I significantly shortened my evidence. Grandmaster 17:44, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
- Oh give me a brake, Eupator and Tigran didn't brough any evidences at all, and had absolutly no time, and they were one of the principal involved there. The other Armenian members are nearly newbies. As for your said evidences, most are interpretations. If you need to clarify that much, there is something wrong there. Fad (ix) 18:06, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
- You and me both use about 4000 words. And not all Azerbaijani parties to arbcom provided evidence, so it might be possible for others to use some of the space allocated to them. Most of my text is the evidence of wiki rules violations, which could be lost due to space limitation. Still I significantly shortened my evidence. Grandmaster 17:44, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
P.S. As I expected, this thread was immediately deleted from the Armenian forum, but I saved it and will provide to arbitrators upon request.
- Grandmaster, I have contacted the administration, the page was indeed removed, but not because it was presented as evidence here. Your as "expected" is simply assumption, if you think everyone have an eye on everything that is happening here, perhaps a little of paranoia? They confirmed the removal and return to registration request to view. The forum in question has been hacked by hackers from Azerbaijan in the past as they told, for some times there was restrictions on IP address from Azerbaijan and Turkey because of threat of hack. When the restriction was removed the entering IP were closely monitored. The administration said that there was yesterday unusual visits in that particular thread from IPs tracing from Azerbaijan so they removed the thread. You should have presented the evidence and the link posted to the arbitration insteed of providing the link on the open. Fad (ix) 20:25, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
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- I don't believe that explanation. The thread was removed about an hour after I posted the evidence to arbcom. I'm sure that someone emailed and asked them to do that. But it will not help, I saved the page anyway because I expected that and I was so right by expecting it. Grandmaster 05:19, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
- This is innacurate, it has not been deleted about an hour after, as I was able to see its content. You have acted very irresponsably by providing a link like that. It could have been provided privatly to the Arbcom. You can not expect Armenian sites not to get paranoiac those days when various Armenian site are being hacked. Here just one example: http://www.theforgotten.org/ a site which could not get reestablished after days. If you viewed that forum you should have known. Dozens and dozens of Armenian sites are hacked. And here I am not talking about the report from a member from here who told me that Adil did minimise those hackings in a French board. And given that Dacy is involved here, everything is possible. Fad (ix) 14:09, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
- I'll take your advice about privately informing the arbcom next time. Grandmaster 17:02, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
- This is innacurate, it has not been deleted about an hour after, as I was able to see its content. You have acted very irresponsably by providing a link like that. It could have been provided privatly to the Arbcom. You can not expect Armenian sites not to get paranoiac those days when various Armenian site are being hacked. Here just one example: http://www.theforgotten.org/ a site which could not get reestablished after days. If you viewed that forum you should have known. Dozens and dozens of Armenian sites are hacked. And here I am not talking about the report from a member from here who told me that Adil did minimise those hackings in a French board. And given that Dacy is involved here, everything is possible. Fad (ix) 14:09, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
- I don't believe that explanation. The thread was removed about an hour after I posted the evidence to arbcom. I'm sure that someone emailed and asked them to do that. But it will not help, I saved the page anyway because I expected that and I was so right by expecting it. Grandmaster 05:19, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
- That doesn't change anything, just because you "saved" it doesn't mean anything, this could be anyone trying to frame me, you have no evidence except for text, that anyone can add, it can be you. Also you should stop lurking around, its called stalking. Artaxiad 05:22, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
