Wikipedia:Requests for comment/80.217.152.161

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The current date and time is: 16:55, 2 December 2005 (UTC).

[edit] Statement of the dispute

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[edit] Description

On November 20, this anonymous user began adding material to Darod (diff.) and Hawiye (diff.). User began including statements regarding relative sizes (i.e. populations) of the two clans, as well as asserting one clan's political and economic dominance. I began searching for references which might at least settle the issue of clan size. I was unable to turn up any actual numbers, and the references that I did find gave conflicting data. I figured it was best to make note of that discrepancy and cite both of the references. Since then, the anonymous user has been deleting one of the citationss, and/or re-wording the other, to assert his own claims regarding the clans' relative sizes.

Also, the Darod article indicated that an ancestor had migrated to the area in 1200 CE, and cited a source for this information. The anonymous user kept changing this to 1800 (and, at one point, 1700) without citing a reference.

In addition to replacing information that cites its sources with information that does not, the user has removed existing formatting and wiki links, and introduced numerous grammatical and syntactical errors.

I left a note on the user's talk page requesting that he cite sources for his assertions and, furthermore, to not attribute his modified statements to the existing references. This was among some other comments that CambridgeBayWeather and myself had left. The user never responded on his talk page, nor on the articles' talk pages. Unsure of what to try next, on November 26 I requested that the two articles be protected (fearing that this had already devolved into a revert war) [1]. Rather than protecting the articles, Dmcdevit blocked the anonymous user for 24 hours for violating WP:3RR [2]. Following the block, the user continued making similar reverts on November 29, and again exceeded three reversions, resulting in a 48 hour block. I suspect that the user has evaded this block using IP address 193.13.57.225 (both addresses are based in Sweden).

-- Gyrofrog (talk) 16:42, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Evidence of disputed behavior

(Provide diffs. Links to entire articles aren't helpful unless the editor created the entire article. Edit histories also aren't helpful as they change as new edits are performed.)

A sampling of edits in which reversions occurred:

Darod article:
  1. 03:46, 20 November 2005 (first such edit to this article by this user)
  2. 08:58, 20 November 2005
  3. 06:00, 22 November 2005
  4. 15:51, 22 November 2005
  5. 23:43, 22 November 2005
  6. 21:33, 24 November 2005
  7. 18:21, 26 November 2005
  8. 02:16, 29 November 2005
  9. 23:25, 29 November 2005
Hawiye article:
  1. 07:07, 20 November 2005 (first such edit to this article by this user)
  2. 08:35, 20 November 2005
  3. 05:50, 22 November 2005
  4. 22:06, 22 November 2005
  5. 13:13, 23 November 2005
  6. 12:17, 25 November 2005
  7. 13:59, 26 November 2005
  8. 18:11, 26 November 2005
  9. 23:28, 29 November 2005

Possibly evading Nov. 29 IP block:

  1. 17:35, 1 December 2005
  2. 17:37, 1 December 2005


[edit] Applicable policies

  1. WP:3RR

[edit] Evidence of trying and failing to resolve the dispute

(provide diffs and links)

  1. User talk:80.217.152.161#Hawiye & Darod (no response)
  2. Talk:Darod (no response)
  3. Talk:Hawiye (no response)
  4. Wikipedia:Requests for page protection#Darod & Hawiye
  5. Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/3RR#User:80.217.152.161 (possibly evaded block)
  6. User talk:193.13.57.225


[edit] Users certifying the basis for this dispute

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  1. Gyrofrog (talk) 16:55, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
  2. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 16:49, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

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